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#1

I'm not that upset about the result.  I was kind of, almost, on the fence.  I don't want massive tariffs, or to deport 10 million people, or to abandon Ukraine.  But on the other hand, I don't like all the far-left woke-ism the Democrats were throwing at us, and I don't like the idea of wealth taxes and stuff like that.  Neither side said much about the number one threat facing this country, the thing that could sink us into oblivion, and that is, the federal debt.  In other words, I didn't find much to like about either candidate.  

Anyway, I know you Trumpsters are happy.  Congratulations.  You won fair and square.  And now, whatever happens is on you.
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#2

Thank You!!

Been fighting the machine for years.. And we took that mother [BLEEP] out!!
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(11-06-2024, 04:12 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: I'm not that upset about the result.  I was kind of, almost, on the fence.  I don't want massive tariffs, or to deport 10 million people, or to abandon Ukraine.  But on the other hand, I don't like all the far-left woke-ism the Democrats were throwing at us, and I don't like the idea of wealth taxes and stuff like that.  Neither side said much about the number one threat facing this country, the thing that could sink us into oblivion, and that is, the federal debt.  In other words, I didn't find much to like about either candidate.  

Anyway, I know you Trumpsters are happy.  Congratulations.  You won fair and square.  And now, whatever happens is on you.

Huh? Yes they did. That is literally Elons role in the Trump administration.  DOGE
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(This post was last modified: 11-06-2024, 05:02 PM by mikesez.)

(11-06-2024, 04:51 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(11-06-2024, 04:12 PM)The Real Marty Wrote: I'm not that upset about the result.  I was kind of, almost, on the fence.  I don't want massive tariffs, or to deport 10 million people, or to abandon Ukraine.  But on the other hand, I don't like all the far-left woke-ism the Democrats were throwing at us, and I don't like the idea of wealth taxes and stuff like that.  Neither side said much about the number one threat facing this country, the thing that could sink us into oblivion, and that is, the federal debt.  In other words, I didn't find much to like about either candidate.  

Anyway, I know you Trumpsters are happy.  Congratulations.  You won fair and square.  And now, whatever happens is on you.

Huh? Yes they did. That is literally Elons role in the Trump administration.  DOGE

Yes that's all we ever needed to hem in SS and Medicare and Obamacare spending, is one genius to fix it all! The seniors will accept benefit cuts as long as the one guy making the cuts is a genius.  Why didnt we think of that before?!

Trump turned out his voters. Kamala failed to turn out hers. May Trump succeed in preserving our constitution and our prosperity, and exceed my expectations!
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#5

(11-06-2024, 05:01 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-06-2024, 04:51 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Huh? Yes they did. That is literally Elons role in the Trump administration.  DOGE

Yes that's all we ever needed to hem in SS and Medicare and Obamacare spending, is one genius to fix it all! The seniors will accept benefit cuts as long as the one guy making the cuts is a genius.  Why didnt we think of that before?!

Trump turned out his voters.  Kamala failed to turn out hers.  May Trump succeed in preserving our constitution and our prosperity, and exceed my expectations!

You raise a good question. Why didn't we think of that before?
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(11-06-2024, 05:13 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:
(11-06-2024, 05:01 PM)mikesez Wrote: Yes that's all we ever needed to hem in SS and Medicare and Obamacare spending, is one genius to fix it all! The seniors will accept benefit cuts as long as the one guy making the cuts is a genius.  Why didnt we think of that before?!

Trump turned out his voters.  Kamala failed to turn out hers.  May Trump succeed in preserving our constitution and our prosperity, and exceed my expectations!

You raise a good question. Why didn't we think of that before?

We're not geniuses.  We needed a true genius like Elon Musk to show us the way.
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#7

(11-08-2024, 12:22 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-06-2024, 05:13 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: You raise a good question. Why didn't we think of that before?

We're not geniuses.  We needed a true genius like Elon Musk to show us the way.

You mock Elon, yet support people who run Wile E. Coyote lolololol

Your whole presence here is satire..
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#8

Remember all those fake polls Marty continually posted only when they benefitted Harris trying to demoralize Trump supporters and pretended he was impartial and only reporting the news?

That was awesome.
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(11-08-2024, 12:47 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: Remember all those fake polls Marty continually posted only when they benefitted Harris trying to demoralize Trump supporters and pretended he was impartial and only reporting the news?

That was awesome.

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(11-08-2024, 12:22 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-06-2024, 05:13 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: You raise a good question. Why didn't we think of that before?

We're not geniuses.  We needed a true genius like Elon Musk to show us the way.

We need to circle this date as we agree on this !!  In his acceptance speech Trump mentioned he wanted to try to pay down the debt. That is maybe the first mention of the debt this whole election cycle by either candidate. Now before you jump on that I could have missed it before.

Elon can bring in AI, robots and simplification.  One of the largest employers on the monthly Jobs reports this last year has been the Federal government. They have been like the #2 each month. Well actually after 800,000 million job adjustment down to the reports (historical adjustment by a wide margin) they could be #1. I am hoping he is successful.
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#11

"Cabinet members, I want plans to reduce the federal budget by 40% on my desk by March 1st" - FSG's first day in office.

"Good work team, now execute these and I want plans for a further 30% reduction of the federal budget on my desk by August 1st." - President FSG, March 1st
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#12

(11-08-2024, 12:51 PM)Jag149 Wrote:
(11-08-2024, 12:22 PM)mikesez Wrote: We're not geniuses.  We needed a true genius like Elon Musk to show us the way.

We need to circle this date as we agree on this !!  In his acceptance speech Trump mentioned he wanted to try to pay down the debt. That is maybe the first mention of the debt this whole election cycle by either candidate. Now before you jump on that I could have missed it before.

Elon can bring in AI, robots and simplification.  One of the largest employers on the monthly Jobs reports this last year has been the Federal government. They have been like the #2 each month. Well actually after 800,000 million job adjustment down to the reports (historical adjustment by a wide margin) they could be #1. I am hoping he is successful.

How much you want to bet that Donald will throw Elon under the bus no later than 2026? 

They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats.  No. What they are eating are the lies.
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(11-08-2024, 12:51 PM)Jag149 Wrote:
(11-08-2024, 12:22 PM)mikesez Wrote: We're not geniuses.  We needed a true genius like Elon Musk to show us the way.

We need to circle this date as we agree on this !!  In his acceptance speech Trump mentioned he wanted to try to pay down the debt. That is maybe the first mention of the debt this whole election cycle by either candidate. Now before you jump on that I could have missed it before.

Elon can bring in AI, robots and simplification.  One of the largest employers on the monthly Jobs reports this last year has been the Federal government. They have been like the #2 each month. Well actually after 800,000 million job adjustment down to the reports (historical adjustment by a wide margin) they could be #1. I am hoping he is successful.

Yes.  AI, robots, and simplification is going to bring Medicare and defense costs down 90% within a year.   That will allow us to cut the budget by about $2T without cutting social security.  Thanks in advance, Elon!
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(This post was last modified: 11-08-2024, 11:45 PM by Jag149. Edited 5 times in total.)

(11-08-2024, 09:34 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-08-2024, 12:51 PM)Jag149 Wrote: We need to circle this date as we agree on this !!  In his acceptance speech Trump mentioned he wanted to try to pay down the debt. That is maybe the first mention of the debt this whole election cycle by either candidate. Now before you jump on that I could have missed it before.

Elon can bring in AI, robots and simplification.  One of the largest employers on the monthly Jobs reports this last year has been the Federal government. They have been like the #2 each month. Well actually after 800,000 million job adjustment down to the reports (historical adjustment by a wide margin) they could be #1. I am hoping he is successful.

Yes.  AI, robots, and simplification is going to bring Medicare and defense costs down 90% within a year.   That will allow us to cut the budget by about $2T without cutting social security.  Thanks in advance, Elon!

Actually, healthcare is a target rich environment for AI. They can test the systems on the VA. Boy is that government run agency a mess. It will give them data for the models to learn from. There are quite a few startups working on healthcare applications right now. Salesforce agent module is cool I tested it. It is pleasant efficient, accurate and nicer than most humans.

There are multiple companies that build robots now performing thousands of operations now. I actual have stock in a company called Intuitive. Check it out.
https://www.intuitive.com/en-us

Here are a few more. Due to NIVIDA'a GPU chip that processes graphic this is going explode the next few years.

Anduril
Boston Dynamics
Diligent Robotics
Starship Technologies
Nuro
iRobot
Vecna Robotics
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(11-08-2024, 09:34 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-08-2024, 12:51 PM)Jag149 Wrote: We need to circle this date as we agree on this !!  In his acceptance speech Trump mentioned he wanted to try to pay down the debt. That is maybe the first mention of the debt this whole election cycle by either candidate. Now before you jump on that I could have missed it before.

Elon can bring in AI, robots and simplification.  One of the largest employers on the monthly Jobs reports this last year has been the Federal government. They have been like the #2 each month. Well actually after 800,000 million job adjustment down to the reports (historical adjustment by a wide margin) they could be #1. I am hoping he is successful.

Yes.  AI, robots, and simplification is going to bring Medicare and defense costs down 90% within a year.   That will allow us to cut the budget by about $2T without cutting social security.  Thanks in advance, Elon!

I work for the federal government and I can assure you that there are huge amounts of waste that could be cut without really affecting any services. For example, the VA buys medical supplies at greatly inflated prices because they get them from various "small businesses" that are nothing but a middleman for the manufacturer and they add no value.  Private sector hospitals don't do that and pay 10-20% less for the exact same items.  

In Europe, they typically do colonoscopies without anesthesia but in the U.S. it's almost always done under anesthesia so the costs are significantly higher.  

And in Europe you don't have all the artificial colors, flavors, preservatives that you have in America - so people there are healthier with fewer health problems.  Get American to live and eat healthier and healthcare costs will go down.  

Ultimately social security has to be addressed because it's unsustainable.  You don't make changes to current recipients, but you have to adjust the retirement age for future retirees to match receipts.  

The government simply can't continue to spend at the current rates and go further and further into debt.  Hard decisions have to be made.
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(11-09-2024, 12:23 AM)navyjagfan Wrote:
(11-08-2024, 09:34 PM)mikesez Wrote: Yes.  AI, robots, and simplification is going to bring Medicare and defense costs down 90% within a year.   That will allow us to cut the budget by about $2T without cutting social security.  Thanks in advance, Elon!

I work for the federal government and I can assure you that there are huge amounts of waste that could be cut without really affecting any services. For example, the VA buys medical supplies at greatly inflated prices because they get them from various "small businesses" that are nothing but a middleman for the manufacturer and they add no value.  Private sector hospitals don't do that and pay 10-20% less for the exact same items.  

In Europe, they typically do colonoscopies without anesthesia but in the U.S. it's almost always done under anesthesia so the costs are significantly higher.  

And in Europe you don't have all the artificial colors, flavors, preservatives that you have in America - so people there are healthier with fewer health problems.  Get American to live and eat healthier and healthcare costs will go down.  

Ultimately social security has to be addressed because it's unsustainable.  You don't make changes to current recipients, but you have to adjust the retirement age for future retirees to match receipts.  

The government simply can't continue to spend at the current rates and go further and further into debt.  Hard decisions have to be made.

I worked for the VA when it was on Boulevard for close to 6 years, before it moved almost across the street on Jefferson..

That place is nothing but waste..
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The VA could be fixed by eliminating it and moving it directly into CMS, it's not necessary for it to be a separate federal department.
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(11-09-2024, 10:13 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: The VA could be fixed by eliminating it and moving it directly into CMS, it's not necessary for it to be a separate federal department.

I used to agree, now I'm not so sure.  With so much over-consolidation in hospitals, and some rural areas so underserved, I feel like we need more government owned hospitals, not fewer.  Not sure.  Would have to look at the efficacy/efficiency of it.

Most of the dissatisfaction people have with the VA has to do with the process of determining if something is service related or not.  It's an extra step other health systems don't have.
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(11-09-2024, 10:54 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-09-2024, 10:13 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: The VA could be fixed by eliminating it and moving it directly into CMS, it's not necessary for it to be a separate federal department.

I used to agree, now I'm not so sure.  With so much over-consolidation in hospitals, and some rural areas so underserved, I feel like we need more government owned hospitals, not fewer.  Not sure.  Would have to look at the efficacy/efficiency of it.

Most of the dissatisfaction people have with the VA has to do with the process of determining if something is service related or not.  It's an extra step other health systems don't have.

I disagree. The government is the the least efficient option.  I would rather have the decision whether it is service related remain with them, but the private sector actually treat the patients. I can remember one study where they created 35k jobs. It only cost something like 78k to create them...

The added volume should allow the hospitals in rural areas to remain open and avoid the spread of under served areas.
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I've always wanted a successful businessman to go into the government and try to do everything to make it more efficient.  I think there are tons of things.  The government has more red tape than a tape factory.  It takes a ridiculously amount of forms to fire a person.  Many jobs are performed with little accountability.  There's excessive levels of bureaucracy.  Some jobs are grossly overpaid.  The government's contracting procedures are so bureaucratic that it scares away a lot of vendors and the ones who do bid jack up their price because of it.  I"m sure there's things that can be automated.  There's things currently being done by government employees that could be outsourced at a fraction of a cost to tax payers.  I'm sure there's some fraud to find.  Who knows what else Elon will recommend?  I find it sad that some people mock the idea of trying to make the government more efficient.  TDS is real.

This is a little dated at this point, but I remember when Newt became speaker of the house.  He said that there was a planning commission for the bicentennial celebration with a budget of millions of dollars per year.  The bicentennial had occurred 18 years ago!  Our government was spending money to plan for an event that took place 18 years in the past!  It's unreal.

I also love the example of the school with a leaky roof.  However, there was no federal funds to fix roofs.  However, there were federal funds to build new schools.  So what did they?  They built a new school.  It's insane.  We need to end this government waste.
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