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***Official Gameday Jags vs Vikings Thread***


(11-10-2024, 07:53 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 07:52 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: The only way it can get worse at this point is if we start having more injuries to key players.  We are in line for the number 1 spot.  It will be the 3rd time picking 1st overall in Baalkes 5 years here.  3 out of 5 picking 1st overall lol, you cant make this stuff up.

Prime reason to fire Baalke.

Every home game from here on out should be a "Clown Out".

Or worse, people just stop showing up for the games like before. Coach Campos talked about that on the radio after the game. He said sometimes it takes that to show owners that things are indeed as bad as they seem. 
Khan is flirting with the tarps legacy as 'The Stadium of the Future' is preparing to break ground. He's playing with more chips on the table than a group of professional football players, he has a city looking over his shoulder now. Ol' boy better get hard (insert ED pun here) or face questions from other people besides the fans.

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(11-10-2024, 08:21 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 05:48 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Mahomes was horrible today and they still won because they’re well coached and their defense is great.

I was curious at looked at the stats.  Patrick Mahomes and Trevor Lawrence's stats this season are actually pretty similar.  Both have played 9 games.  Check it out:

Mahomes:  2,208 passing yards, 12 TD's, 9 interceptions, 90.3 QB rating
Lawrence:  2,004 passing yards, 11 TD's, 6 interceptions, 87.9 QB rating

Keep in mind that Mahome's stats are with the #2 ranked offensive line while Lawrence is with the #28 ranked offensive line.

The chiefs have an effective running game and the best defensive lineman in the NFL. That means Mahomes doesn't have to carry them, they can win when he's just ok.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato


(This post was last modified: 11-10-2024, 09:06 PM by flgatorsandjags. Edited 1 time in total.)

(11-10-2024, 08:29 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 08:21 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: I was curious at looked at the stats.  Patrick Mahomes and Trevor Lawrence's stats this season are actually pretty similar.  Both have played 9 games.  Check it out:

Mahomes:  2,208 passing yards, 12 TD's, 9 interceptions, 90.3 QB rating
Lawrence:  2,004 passing yards, 11 TD's, 6 interceptions, 87.9 QB rating

Keep in mind that Mahome's stats are with the #2 ranked offensive line while Lawrence is with the #28 ranked offensive line.

The chiefs have an effective running game and the best defensive lineman in the NFL. That means Mahomes doesn't have to carry them, they can win when he's just ok.

They have much more than just that.  They are stacked at every level on D and they have arguably the best TE ever.  They have a good set of WRs in Hopkins, Worthy, and Smith Schuester.  Not gonna mention Pacheco and Rice but they are also 5th in pass blocking efficiency as well.  They have a top 3 kicker, one of the best DC ever and one of the best offensive play callers and coaches ever as well to support Mahomes.


(11-10-2024, 08:29 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 08:21 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: I was curious at looked at the stats.  Patrick Mahomes and Trevor Lawrence's stats this season are actually pretty similar.  Both have played 9 games.  Check it out:

Mahomes:  2,208 passing yards, 12 TD's, 9 interceptions, 90.3 QB rating
Lawrence:  2,004 passing yards, 11 TD's, 6 interceptions, 87.9 QB rating

Keep in mind that Mahome's stats are with the #2 ranked offensive line while Lawrence is with the #28 ranked offensive line.

The chiefs have an effective running game and the best defensive lineman in the NFL. That means Mahomes doesn't have to carry them, they can win when he's just ok.

And they can actually block a FG attempt. The feats of this team never cease to amaze me. Their drive to win is unflappable.


Meanwhile, Trevor gets Baalke's measuring tape strategy for his Sundays.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(11-10-2024, 10:01 AM)H8tank Wrote: I think a certain segment of this board will be begging for Trev to play next week after this one.  I bet we even see Beathard before its over.

After those first 3.5 Quarters I can't believe they didn't give Beathard a chance to throw.  Mac is terrible.


On the flip side
I seriously doubt vikings will make it far playoff wise
Hell I don't think they r beating the division


(11-10-2024, 08:27 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 07:48 PM)carp8dm Wrote: Honestly, losing this game is just normal.  It didn't get any worse.  It's just the same flat line we've been dealing with since last year.

Look man, they played against a really good team with a back up QB and held them to 12 points. I have no real issues with the game today except that they still cannot run the ball worth a damn to support whoever is taking the snaps. That you think the coaches can just magically make this roster able to beat better teams says more about your perception of football than their coaching ability.

7 points off 3 turnovers.

Press/Doug  Doug/Press masterclass.

NO, but I'm wrong..  [BLEEP] Me, right?


(11-10-2024, 10:00 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 08:27 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Look man, they played against a really good team with a back up QB and held them to 12 points. I have no real issues with the game today except that they still cannot run the ball worth a damn to support whoever is taking the snaps. That you think the coaches can just magically make this roster able to beat better teams says more about your perception of football than their coaching ability.

7 points off 3 turnovers.

Press/Doug  Doug/Press masterclass.

NO, but I'm wrong..  [BLEEP] Me, right?

Backup QB and no running game. Yeah, [BLEEP] you.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(11-10-2024, 10:09 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:00 PM)carp8dm Wrote: 7 points off 3 turnovers.

Press/Doug  Doug/Press masterclass.

NO, but I'm wrong..  [BLEEP] Me, right?

Backup QB and no running game. Yeah, [BLEEP] you.

I respect you.


(11-10-2024, 10:20 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:09 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Backup QB and no running game. Yeah, [BLEEP] you.

I respect you.

Thanks, but I don't give a [BLEEP].
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato



(11-10-2024, 10:22 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:20 PM)carp8dm Wrote: I respect you.

Thanks, but I don't give a [BLEEP].

You will.

Eventually...


(11-10-2024, 10:24 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:22 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Thanks, but I don't give a [BLEEP].

You will.

Eventually...

Lol. No, that means that other's opinion impact my thiniking. That's never going to be the case.
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(11-10-2024, 10:26 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:24 PM)carp8dm Wrote: You will.

Eventually...

Lol. No, that means that other's opinion impact my thiniking. That's never going to be the case.

Maybe you need to rethink your thinking...

It happens sometimes...


(11-10-2024, 10:35 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:26 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Lol. No, that means that other's opinion impact my thiniking. That's never going to be the case.

Maybe you need to rethink your thinking...

It happens sometimes...

Here's the thing, since you're pretty slow:

If you fire Doug but keep Trent tomorrow you'll have the same issue in 2 years.

If you fire Trent but keep Doug tomorrow you'll have a much better team in 2 years.

If you fire both you could go either way, the future is uncertain with a complete overhaul.

I don't love Pederson, I just don't want you thinking that firing Doug Pederson solves your problem, because he's not the real problem. And you're in for a disappointment next year when Baalke gets more years to [BLEEP] up this team.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato



(11-10-2024, 10:41 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:35 PM)carp8dm Wrote: Maybe you need to rethink your thinking...

It happens sometimes...

Here's the thing, since you're pretty slow:

If you fire Doug but keep Trent tomorrow you'll have the same issue in 2 years.

If you fire Trent but keep Doug tomorrow you'll have a much better team in 2 years.

If you fire both you could go either way, the future is uncertain with a complete overhaul.

I don't love Pederson, I just don't want you thinking that firing Doug Pederson solves your problem, because he's not the real problem. And you're in for a disappointment next year when Baalke gets more years to [BLEEP] up this team.


You assume Baalke remains.....


(11-10-2024, 10:44 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:41 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Here's the thing, since you're pretty slow:

If you fire Doug but keep Trent tomorrow you'll have the same issue in 2 years.

If you fire Trent but keep Doug tomorrow you'll have a much better team in 2 years.

If you fire both you could go either way, the future is uncertain with a complete overhaul.

I don't love Pederson, I just don't want you thinking that firing Doug Pederson solves your problem, because he's not the real problem. And you're in for a disappointment next year when Baalke gets more years to [BLEEP] up this team.


You assume Baalke remains.....

And there's your issue, you've been crying about coaching when the issue is deeper...foundational even. And yeah, I don't thin Baalke is going anywhere. I think Khan has your elementary perspective and this is all going to be blamed on Pederson and Baalke will be here making [BLEEP] picks next April in the 2025 draft.

Dear God I hope not, but #becausejaguarsk
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(11-10-2024, 10:46 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:44 PM)carp8dm Wrote: You assume Baalke remains.....

And there's your issue, you've been crying about coaching when the issue is deeper...foundational even. And yeah, I don't thin Baalke is going anywhere. I think Khan has your elementary perspective and this is all going to be blamed on Pederson and Baalke will be here making [BLEEP] picks next April in the 2025 draft.

Dear God I hope not, but #becausejaguarsk

It's gonna be OK, man.

We're gonna fire Baalke.  It's gonna happen.  

One day, you and I will meet up and we'll both be happy.  It's not gonna be this day  And it's not gonna be this year.  But it's gonna happen.  Just have faith.


(11-10-2024, 10:51 PM)carp8dm Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:46 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: And there's your issue, you've been crying about coaching when the issue is deeper...foundational even. And yeah, I don't thin Baalke is going anywhere. I think Khan has your elementary perspective and this is all going to be blamed on Pederson and Baalke will be here making [BLEEP] picks next April in the 2025 draft.

Dear God I hope not, but #becausejaguarsk

It's gonna be OK, man.

We're gonna fire Baalke.  It's gonna happen.  

One day, you and I will meet up and we'll both be happy.  It's not gonna be this day  And it's not gonna be this year.  But it's gonna happen.  Just have faith.

I have no faith that Shad will fire Baalke this year. None. He's a cockroach, he'll survive nuclear apocalypse by throwing everyone else under the bus. And next year I'll be saying the same thing and you'll be blaming a new coach for the same results.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato



(11-10-2024, 11:00 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-10-2024, 10:51 PM)carp8dm Wrote: It's gonna be OK, man.

We're gonna fire Baalke.  It's gonna happen.  

One day, you and I will meet up and we'll both be happy.  It's not gonna be this day  And it's not gonna be this year.  But it's gonna happen.  Just have faith.

I have no faith that Shad will fire Baalke this year. None. He's a cockroach, he'll survive nuclear apocalypse by throwing everyone else under the bus. And next year I'll be saying the same thing and you'll be blaming a new coach for the same results.

So instead of clown faces, maybe Raid cans?
A new broom always sweeps clean.




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