A team has never picked 1st overall in a 5 year span.  The Jags will be the first team to do so.  Baalke and Pederson are gone.  I don't need a tweet from Dilla trying to get one right lol

Yeah. The writing is on the wall. Appreciate Baalke's mini fire sale for the next front office to build things up with in 2025 and 2026's draft. Get me a coach in here that likes to pound the rock and cause havoc with just his base front defense and we'll be just fine.

Belichick, Vrabel, Spagnuolo or Flores. These are the names they should be looking at as soon as they decide to announce the firing of Baalke and Pederson.

Will take any of them except Flores, hard pass on Flores. Still would love to add Ben Johnson

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https://twitter.com/_john_shipley/status...915L-t18Xg

You sure?

A team has never picked 1st overall in a 5 year span.  The Jags will be the first team to do so.  Baalke and Pederson are gone.  I don't need a tweet from Dilla trying to get one right lol

Do you have trouble reading?

The tweet was from Shipley.....

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A team has never picked 1st overall in a 5 year span.  The Jags will be the first team to do so.  Baalke and Pederson are gone.  I don't need a tweet from Dilla trying to get one right lol

Do you have trouble reading?

The tweet was from Shipley.....

I know exactly who it's from.  A team has never even picked 1st overall 3 times in a 5 year span period, even getting rid of the GM much less keeping him.  I just said that about Dilla because he will tweet it in the coming weeks.  I just beating him to it.

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Another one will be yall gonna like this coach we are bringing in. I can't say anything but yall gonna love it lol

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That [BLEEP] was funny as hell when he acted like he knew who our 2nd round pick was and we ended up taking Strange. He was tweeting how much everyone will love the pick and its the best pick so far lol. He thought it was going to be Torrence lol. He had me fooled on that one

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Teams were 195-0 in NFL history when a team forces 3 turnovers the the other team doesn't score a TD. We are the first one to lose in that scenario lol. Our record breaking suckage is amazing lol

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Teams were 195-0 in NFL history when a team forces 3 turnovers the the other team doesn't score a TD.  We are the first one to lose in that scenario lol. Our record breaking suckage is amazing lol

We are in the mist of a dynasty right now. Think about how rare and hard it is to be as elite and great as the KC Chiefs and the Brady Patriot years. We have that, just in the total opposite. We need to realize... how almost impossible it is to be on a 62-143 run since Khan took over. It's equally impressive when you truly think about it. We are doing some record breaking insane dynasty losing. We need to embrace this.

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Teams were 195-0 in NFL history when a team forces 3 turnovers the the other team doesn't score a TD.  We are the first one to lose in that scenario lol. Our record breaking suckage is amazing lol

We are in the mist of a dynasty right now. Think about how rare and hard it is to be as elite and great as the KC Chiefs and the Brady Patriot years. We have that, just in the total opposite. We need to realize... how almost impossible it is to be on a 62-143 run since Khan took over. It's equally impressive when you truly think about it. We are doing some record breaking insane dynasty losing. We need to embrace this.

True, the next record of suckage will be the first team to pick 1st overall 3 times in 5 years.

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Yeah. The writing is on the wall. Appreciate Baalke's mini fire sale for the next front office to build things up with in 2025 and 2026's draft. Get me a coach in here that likes to pound the rock and cause havoc with just his base front defense and we'll be just fine.

Belichick, Vrabel, Spagnuolo or Flores. These are the names they should be looking at as soon as they decide to announce the firing of Baalke and Pederson.

Will take any of them except Flores, hard pass on Flores. Still would love to add Ben Johnson

Interested to hear why you have a hard pass on Flores.

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Will take any of them except Flores, hard pass on Flores. Still would love to add Ben Johnson

Interested to hear why you have a hard pass on Flores.

There are a few reasons.

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Interested to hear why you have a hard pass on Flores.

There are a few reasons.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0YIJQ1jgEI

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Teams were 195-0 in NFL history when a team forces 3 turnovers the the other team doesn't score a TD.  We are the first one to lose in that scenario lol. Our record breaking suckage is amazing lol

We are in the mist of a dynasty right now. Think about how rare and hard it is to be as elite and great as the KC Chiefs and the Brady Patriot years. We have that, just in the total opposite. We need to realize... how almost impossible it is to be on a 62-143 run since Khan took over. It's equally impressive when you truly think about it. We are doing some record breaking insane dynasty losing. We need to embrace this.

Yes, I would agree that the franchise is in a fog.

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We are in the mist of a dynasty right now. Think about how rare and hard it is to be as elite and great as the KC Chiefs and the Brady Patriot years. We have that, just in the total opposite. We need to realize... how almost impossible it is to be on a 62-143 run since Khan took over. It's equally impressive when you truly think about it. We are doing some record breaking insane dynasty losing. We need to embrace this.

True, the next record of suckage will be the first team to pick 1st overall 3 times in 5 years.

4 in 6 will immediately surpass that mark.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

True, the next record of suckage will be the first team to pick 1st overall 3 times in 5 years.

4 in 6 will immediately surpass that mark.

What is the point of already declaring that the Jags will be worst team in 2025?

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4 in 6 will immediately surpass that mark.

What is the point of already declaring that the Jags will be worst team in 2025?

This stuff has to have a point?

News to me.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Teams were 195-0 in NFL history when a team forces 3 turnovers the the other team doesn't score a TD.  We are the first one to lose in that scenario lol. Our record breaking suckage is amazing lol

We are in the mist of a dynasty right now. Think about how rare and hard it is to be as elite and great as the KC Chiefs and the Brady Patriot years. We have that, just in the total opposite. We need to realize... how almost impossible it is to be on a 62-143 run since Khan took over. It's equally impressive when you truly think about it. We are doing some record breaking insane dynasty losing. We need to embrace this.

It's really not hard to imagine what has contributed to that spectacular run.  Jacksonville has and may continue to have a more challenging road than larger markets.  There will always be a certain percentage of coaches and players that do not want to coach or play for our franchise if given the choice money being equal due to the nature of being a small market and the overall stigma that Jacksonville in particular has compared to other markets.  That could change in time and looks to be heading in that direction, but that has absolutely contributed.  The money can sometimes overcome that, but I'm convinced that Ramsey wanted out and was determined to either get massively overpaid here (unlikely) or force his way out which started with the brinks truck shenanigans.  I think that plan was in the works the moment he got drafted by us.  

Who knows how many countless free agents over the years got a solid offer from Jacksonville only to decide to play elsewhere for non-money related reasons.  I'd bet there were more that fell that way for us than for other franchises.  Same deal with coaches.  Embrace the forced exclusivity of our franchise indeed though.  It makes the winning when it happens, rarer here than elsewhere for sure, that much sweeter.  Being a fan of this team isn't for the faint of heart.  If you can choose to be a fan of another team with no deep rooted emotional attachment already in place here, that would probably be a good decision, but in a weird, glutton for punishment, "give me the biggest challenge" kinda way, I kinda appreciate our circumstances and might have found my way toward this franchise even if I didn't live here.

This is all before getting into the potential for officiating bias against us which could be by league office directive (there's too much money involved for the league office to want to see a consistently good Jacksonville team) or the internal biases that individual refs carry themselves. This part really sucks honestly.

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We are in the mist of a dynasty right now. Think about how rare and hard it is to be as elite and great as the KC Chiefs and the Brady Patriot years. We have that, just in the total opposite. We need to realize... how almost impossible it is to be on a 62-143 run since Khan took over. It's equally impressive when you truly think about it. We are doing some record breaking insane dynasty losing. We need to embrace this.

It's really not hard to imagine what has contributed to that spectacular run.  Jacksonville has and may continue to have a more challenging road than larger markets.  There will always be a certain percentage of coaches and players that do not want to coach or play for our franchise if given the choice money being equal due to the nature of being a small market and the overall stigma that Jacksonville in particular has compared to other markets.  That could change in time and looks to be heading in that direction, but that has absolutely contributed.  The money can sometimes overcome that, but I'm convinced that Ramsey wanted out and was determined to either get massively overpaid here (unlikely) or force his way out which started with the brinks truck shenanigans.  I think that plan was in the works the moment he got drafted by us.  

Who knows how many countless free agents over the years got a solid offer from Jacksonville only to decide to play elsewhere for non-money related reasons.  I'd bet there were more that fell that way for us than for other franchises.  Same deal with coaches.  Embrace the forced exclusivity of our franchise indeed though.  It makes the winning when it happens, rarer here than elsewhere for sure, that much sweeter.  Being a fan of this team isn't for the faint of heart.  If you can choose to be a fan of another team with no deep rooted emotional attachment already in place here, that would probably be a good decision, but in a weird, glutton for punishment, "give me the biggest challenge" kinda way, I kinda appreciate our circumstances and might have found my way toward this franchise even if I didn't live here.

This is all before getting into the potential for officiating bias against us which could be by league office directive (there's too much money involved for the league office to want to see a consistently good Jacksonville team) or the internal biases that individual refs carry themselves.  This part really sucks honestly.

I think this middle paragraph is something we all need to realize.

It's not that Ramsey was the cancer, he was the symptom.  Coughlin as the EVP was the cancer.  Coughlin wanted to be the owner/GM instead of the EVP.  Coughlin destroyed that 2018 roster.  He thought he could bully the players into submission.  And he killed the entire roster.  And we had a HC that didn't have the locker room because Coughlin enforced his method onto the roster.

That's why you need a guy like Boselli.  An EVP should not be a hard [BLEEP] jerk store piece of [BLEEP].  You need someone that loves the city, loves the franchise, and wants to empower the GM and HC to build the roster they want.

(edit to make sure that I'm not side-stepping the profanity filiters)

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It's really not hard to imagine what has contributed to that spectacular run.  Jacksonville has and may continue to have a more challenging road than larger markets.  There will always be a certain percentage of coaches and players that do not want to coach or play for our franchise if given the choice money being equal due to the nature of being a small market and the overall stigma that Jacksonville in particular has compared to other markets.  That could change in time and looks to be heading in that direction, but that has absolutely contributed.  The money can sometimes overcome that, but I'm convinced that Ramsey wanted out and was determined to either get massively overpaid here (unlikely) or force his way out which started with the brinks truck shenanigans.  I think that plan was in the works the moment he got drafted by us.  

Who knows how many countless free agents over the years got a solid offer from Jacksonville only to decide to play elsewhere for non-money related reasons.  I'd bet there were more that fell that way for us than for other franchises.  Same deal with coaches.  Embrace the forced exclusivity of our franchise indeed though.  It makes the winning when it happens, rarer here than elsewhere for sure, that much sweeter.  Being a fan of this team isn't for the faint of heart.  If you can choose to be a fan of another team with no deep rooted emotional attachment already in place here, that would probably be a good decision, but in a weird, glutton for punishment, "give me the biggest challenge" kinda way, I kinda appreciate our circumstances and might have found my way toward this franchise even if I didn't live here.

This is all before getting into the potential for officiating bias against us which could be by league office directive (there's too much money involved for the league office to want to see a consistently good Jacksonville team) or the internal biases that individual refs carry themselves.  This part really sucks honestly.

I think this middle paragraph is something we all need to realize.

It's not that Ramsey was the cancer, he was the symptom.  Coughlin as the EVP was the cancer.  Coughlin wanted to be the owner/GM instead of the EVP.  Coughlin destroyed that 2018 roster.  He thought he could bully the players into submission.  And he killed the entire roster.  And we had a HC that didn't have the locker room because Coughlin enforced his method onto the roster.

That's why you need a guy like Boselli.  An EVP should not be a hard [BLEEP] jerk store piece of [BLEEP].  You need someone that loves the city, loves the franchise, and wants to empower the GM and HC to build the roster they want.

(edit to make sure that I'm not side-stepping the profanity filiters)

Executive level guys don't need to be interacting with players in the first place once they are signed. 
They need to leave that stuff to the coaches.

Boselli is also very likely woefully unqualified to hold and executive level position in the NFL. 

The dude frequently changes his mind about a stance he took adamantly tens minutes prior on the radio - just because JP Shadrick fed him one line of information he should have already known. 

That's the kind of guy you want making staff hires and overseeing the GM of your football team? 

Nah... I love the guy, but he's not the right fit. 

Assistant OL coach, maybe. I could see that.

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It's really not hard to imagine what has contributed to that spectacular run.  Jacksonville has and may continue to have a more challenging road than larger markets.  There will always be a certain percentage of coaches and players that do not want to coach or play for our franchise if given the choice money being equal due to the nature of being a small market and the overall stigma that Jacksonville in particular has compared to other markets.  That could change in time and looks to be heading in that direction, but that has absolutely contributed.  The money can sometimes overcome that, but I'm convinced that Ramsey wanted out and was determined to either get massively overpaid here (unlikely) or force his way out which started with the brinks truck shenanigans.  I think that plan was in the works the moment he got drafted by us.  

Who knows how many countless free agents over the years got a solid offer from Jacksonville only to decide to play elsewhere for non-money related reasons.  I'd bet there were more that fell that way for us than for other franchises.  Same deal with coaches.  Embrace the forced exclusivity of our franchise indeed though.  It makes the winning when it happens, rarer here than elsewhere for sure, that much sweeter.  Being a fan of this team isn't for the faint of heart.  If you can choose to be a fan of another team with no deep rooted emotional attachment already in place here, that would probably be a good decision, but in a weird, glutton for punishment, "give me the biggest challenge" kinda way, I kinda appreciate our circumstances and might have found my way toward this franchise even if I didn't live here.

This is all before getting into the potential for officiating bias against us which could be by league office directive (there's too much money involved for the league office to want to see a consistently good Jacksonville team) or the internal biases that individual refs carry themselves.  This part really sucks honestly.

I think this middle paragraph is something we all need to realize.

It's not that Ramsey was the cancer, he was the symptom.  Coughlin as the EVP was the cancer.  Coughlin wanted to be the owner/GM instead of the EVP.  Coughlin destroyed that 2018 roster.  He thought he could bully the players into submission.  And he killed the entire roster.  And we had a HC that didn't have the locker room because Coughlin enforced his method onto the roster.

That's why you need a guy like Boselli.  An EVP should not be a hard [BLEEP] jerk store piece of [BLEEP].  You need someone that loves the city, loves the franchise, and wants to empower the GM and HC to build the roster they want.

(edit to make sure that I'm not side-stepping the profanity filiters)

We have been over this before. After it all blew over, Ramsey said he had no problem with Coughlin, but fell out with Caldwell. From Ramsey's perspective, Coughlin was Caldwell's boss and Ramsey had more regular interaction with Caldwell.  Maybe whatever Caldwell did to piss Ramsey off was Coughlin's direct orders, but probably not.

Regardless, from my perspective, if anyone other than a coach is trying to correct the way a player behaves on the field, something has gone terribly wrong.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

True, the next record of suckage will be the first team to pick 1st overall 3 times in 5 years.

4 in 6 will immediately surpass that mark.

#goals

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4 in 6 will immediately surpass that mark.

What is the point of already declaring that the Jags will be worst team in 2025?

prepare for the worst, you won't be left lamenting.

Anybody who knows people should already have embraced this philosophy.

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We are in the mist of a dynasty right now. Think about how rare and hard it is to be as elite and great as the KC Chiefs and the Brady Patriot years. We have that, just in the total opposite. We need to realize... how almost impossible it is to be on a 62-143 run since Khan took over. It's equally impressive when you truly think about it. We are doing some record breaking insane dynasty losing. We need to embrace this.

It's really not hard to imagine what has contributed to that spectacular run.  Jacksonville has and may continue to have a more challenging road than larger markets.  There will always be a certain percentage of coaches and players that do not want to coach or play for our franchise if given the choice money being equal due to the nature of being a small market and the overall stigma that Jacksonville in particular has compared to other markets.  That could change in time and looks to be heading in that direction, but that has absolutely contributed.  The money can sometimes overcome that, but I'm convinced that Ramsey wanted out and was determined to either get massively overpaid here (unlikely) or force his way out which started with the brinks truck shenanigans.  I think that plan was in the works the moment he got drafted by us.  

Who knows how many countless free agents over the years got a solid offer from Jacksonville only to decide to play elsewhere for non-money related reasons.  I'd bet there were more that fell that way for us than for other franchises.  Same deal with coaches.  Embrace the forced exclusivity of our franchise indeed though.  It makes the winning when it happens, rarer here than elsewhere for sure, that much sweeter.  Being a fan of this team isn't for the faint of heart.  If you can choose to be a fan of another team with no deep rooted emotional attachment already in place here, that would probably be a good decision, but in a weird, glutton for punishment, "give me the biggest challenge" kinda way, I kinda appreciate our circumstances and might have found my way toward this franchise even if I didn't live here.

This is all before getting into the potential for officiating bias against us which could be by league office directive (there's too much money involved for the league office to want to see a consistently good Jacksonville team) or the internal biases that individual refs carry themselves.  This part really sucks honestly.

Three words.

Winning
Cures
Everything

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4 in 6 will immediately surpass that mark.

#goals

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What is the point of already declaring that the Jags will be worst team in 2025?

prepare for the worst, you won't be left lamenting.

Anybody who knows people should already have embraced this philosophy.

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It's really not hard to imagine what has contributed to that spectacular run.  Jacksonville has and may continue to have a more challenging road than larger markets.  There will always be a certain percentage of coaches and players that do not want to coach or play for our franchise if given the choice money being equal due to the nature of being a small market and the overall stigma that Jacksonville in particular has compared to other markets.  That could change in time and looks to be heading in that direction, but that has absolutely contributed.  The money can sometimes overcome that, but I'm convinced that Ramsey wanted out and was determined to either get massively overpaid here (unlikely) or force his way out which started with the brinks truck shenanigans.  I think that plan was in the works the moment he got drafted by us.  

Who knows how many countless free agents over the years got a solid offer from Jacksonville only to decide to play elsewhere for non-money related reasons.  I'd bet there were more that fell that way for us than for other franchises.  Same deal with coaches.  Embrace the forced exclusivity of our franchise indeed though.  It makes the winning when it happens, rarer here than elsewhere for sure, that much sweeter.  Being a fan of this team isn't for the faint of heart.  If you can choose to be a fan of another team with no deep rooted emotional attachment already in place here, that would probably be a good decision, but in a weird, glutton for punishment, "give me the biggest challenge" kinda way, I kinda appreciate our circumstances and might have found my way toward this franchise even if I didn't live here.

This is all before getting into the potential for officiating bias against us which could be by league office directive (there's too much money involved for the league office to want to see a consistently good Jacksonville team) or the internal biases that individual refs carry themselves.  This part really sucks honestly.

Three words.

Winning
Cures
Everything

This ^^^.  It didn't take Houston long to become a desirable location.  They hired DeMeco and drafted Stroud/Anderson, won the division, and beat the Browns in their first playoff game.  The next year they were able to get Danielle Hunter who took a smaller contract to play for the Texans, and Stefon Diggs decided he wanted to play with CJ Stroud (after meeting him in the probowl) and put pressure on the Bills to trade him to the Texans.

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NYC4jags Wrote:
Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.