I kept saying this last year...

I kept saying that the offense didn't look right.  It didn't look like it did in 2022.  The entire 2023 season was a red flag.  Something was off after that 2022 run.  I kept telling people that it looked off.  To me, it wasn't the players.  I think the coaches just decided to rest on their laurels.  We got soft and fat off a good season and our coaches didn't do enough to get the players better.

Draft.  Develop.  Repeat.

We never develop.  That's on coaching.

It's. not. just. the. coaching.

We have barely any talent on this team. We don't have many players that would take over starting spots on other teams.

We are the black hole that eats talent.

I agree with this.  But to me, it's because we have incompetence in terms of developing talent...

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This I agree with.   It's like once Zay Jones started getting hurt...the damn whole team looks like it didn't know how to fight anymore.   Not that the Jags have ever been more than above average in the 3 years I've watched them..but they have regressed a LOT since that AFC playoff game against the Chiefs.

Even when the Jags when 8-3 at the start of last season...it was smoke and mirrors.   When they lost the first game against a rookie CJ Stroud...it was a foreboding of things to come.

I kept saying this last year...

I kept saying that the offense didn't look right.  It didn't look like it did in 2022.  The entire 2023 season was a red flag.  Something was off after that 2022 run.  I kept telling people that it looked off.  To me, it wasn't the players.  I think the coaches just decided to rest on their laurels.  We got soft and fat off a good season and our coaches didn't do enough to get the players better.

Draft.  Develop.  Repeat.

We never develop.  That's on coaching.

Geez dude, you really are the most obstinately wrong person I've ever talked to. You think the coaches just rest on their laurels while the players fumble TDs, drop passes all over the place, let the QB get murdered, miss tackles, drop INTs, can't collapse the pocket, can't stop anything shorter than 4th and 40...it's just laughable. Do you think adding Bill Belichick tomorrow will make these things better in two weeks? Hint, it won't. You deny the most basic principle of football, ie Jimmy and Joe not X and O. As long as you hold to that position you'll never be right about the problem.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

It's. not. just. the. coaching.

We have barely any talent on this team. We don't have many players that would take over starting spots on other teams.

We are the black hole that eats talent.

I agree with this.  But to me, it's because we have incompetence in terms of developing talent...

Or... and here me out... the constant reaches and [BLEEP] drafting that we have complained about for years was actually the problem.

You expect the coaches to turn scrubs into pro-bowlers? They need to at least have some talent to work with.

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I agree with this.  But to me, it's because we have incompetence in terms of developing talent...

Or... and here me out... the constant reaches and [BLEEP] drafting that we have complained about for years was actually the problem.

You expect the coaches to turn scrubs into pro-bowlers? They need to at least have some talent to work with.

Careful man, he's plays Rocket League and knows what's what.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Or... and here me out... the constant reaches and [BLEEP] drafting that we have complained about for years was actually the problem.

You expect the coaches to turn scrubs into pro-bowlers? They need to at least have some talent to work with.

Careful man, he's plays Rocket League and knows what's what.

Damn that made me spit my drink out!!

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Team playing with no heart today. Especially defense.


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Yep.

It's. not. just. the. coaching.

We have barely any talent on this team. We don't have many players that would take over starting spots on other teams.

We are the black hole that eats talent.

I agree with this.  But to me, it's because we have incompetence in terms of developing talent...

More like the middle aged man recently divorced throwing millions of dollars at a striper 7x per week for her attention. We don't develop talent here. We develop taint.

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Team playing with no heart today. Especially defense.


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Yep.

It's. not. just. the. coaching.

We have barely any talent on this team. We don't have many players that would take over starting spots on other teams.

We are the black hole that eats talent.

I agree with this.  But to me, it's because we have incompetence in terms of developing talent...

More like the middle aged man recently divorced throwing millions of dollars at a striper 7x per week for her attention. We don't develop talent here. We develop taint.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

I kept saying this last year...

I kept saying that the offense didn't look right.  It didn't look like it did in 2022.  The entire 2023 season was a red flag.  Something was off after that 2022 run.  I kept telling people that it looked off.  To me, it wasn't the players.  I think the coaches just decided to rest on their laurels.  We got soft and fat off a good season and our coaches didn't do enough to get the players better.

Draft.  Develop.  Repeat.

We never develop.  That's on coaching.

Geez dude, you really are the most obstinately wrong person I've ever talked to. You think the coaches just rest on their laurels while the players fumble TDs, drop passes all over the place, let the QB get murdered, miss tackles, drop INTs, can't collapse the pocket, can't stop anything shorter than 4th and 40...it's just laughable. Do you think adding Bill Belichick tomorrow will make these things better in two weeks? Hint, it won't. You deny the most basic principle of football, ie Jimmy and Joe not X and O. As long as you hold to that position you'll never be right about the problem.

I'll never agree with this.  Sorry.  But that's just my opinion.  The NFL has talent all over the place.  You need coaches that can develop these players and then put them in the best positions to be successful.

2022 we had the same Jimmy's and Joes.  2 years later we're a 2 win team...

What changed?  

In my opinion what changed was that the Doug took his foot off the gas, let Cooter go, and put Press as the main supervisor of the offense while Doug took a back seat.  That's just my opinion.  Based on what has happened since 2022, I think I'm right.

You disagree.  That's cool.  But at the end of the day, I kept telling you that if Doug didn't do something he'd have to be fired.  And guess what?  I was right.  Doug is going to be fired.  And, thankfully, he's taking that OC with him.

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The team got a vasectomy cause none of this team came to the game

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I kept saying this last year...

I kept saying that the offense didn't look right.  It didn't look like it did in 2022.  The entire 2023 season was a red flag.  Something was off after that 2022 run.  I kept telling people that it looked off.  To me, it wasn't the players.  I think the coaches just decided to rest on their laurels.  We got soft and fat off a good season and our coaches didn't do enough to get the players better.

Draft.  Develop.  Repeat.

We never develop.  That's on coaching.

It's. not. just. the. coaching.

We have barely any talent on this team. We don't have many players that would take over starting spots on other teams.

We are the black hole that eats talent.

You're not wrong.   Personally, I've always thought we still didn't have a #1 receiver on the roster, while all the other teams in the league do.   It shouldn't have been BTJ is the Jags #1 receiver even when Kirk is healthy.   The Jags don't have 1 receiver on their roster that would universally be the #1 on the other 31 NFL rosters.

They picked up a center that the Buffalo Bills didn't want.   Their left guard was let go mid season by the Vikings.   Their right guard has heart...but consistently gets blown up on run plays.    The tackles are OK...against meh opposition.

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The Other Jag Forum: Duval Football Fans.

Brandon Scherff is no longer that dude.   Next season I want him gone.

Team playing with no heart today. Especially defense.


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Yep.

I agree with this.  But to me, it's because we have incompetence in terms of developing talent...

More like the middle aged man recently divorced throwing millions of dollars at a striper 7x per week for her attention. We don't develop talent here. We develop taint.

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Team playing with no heart today. Especially defense.


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Yep.

I agree with this.  But to me, it's because we have incompetence in terms of developing talent...

More like the middle aged man recently divorced throwing millions of dollars at a striper 7x per week for her attention. We don't develop talent here. We develop taint.

That's a little too specific...  Are you calling out your supervisor?

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Yep.


More like the middle aged man recently divorced throwing millions of dollars at a striper 7x per week for her attention. We don't develop talent here. We develop taint.

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Yep.


More like the middle aged man recently divorced throwing millions of dollars at a striper 7x per week for her attention. We don't develop talent here. We develop taint.

That's a little too specific...  Are you calling out your supervisor?

No. That's Baalke. "Show me those long arms baby! Tell me I am important! That I ain't no clown! Yeahhh! YEAHHHHH".

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Geez dude, you really are the most obstinately wrong person I've ever talked to. You think the coaches just rest on their laurels while the players fumble TDs, drop passes all over the place, let the QB get murdered, miss tackles, drop INTs, can't collapse the pocket, can't stop anything shorter than 4th and 40...it's just laughable. Do you think adding Bill Belichick tomorrow will make these things better in two weeks? Hint, it won't. You deny the most basic principle of football, ie Jimmy and Joe not X and O. As long as you hold to that position you'll never be right about the problem.

I'll never agree with this.  Sorry.  But that's just my opinion.  The NFL has talent all over the place.  You need coaches that can develop these players and then put them in the best positions to be successful.

2022 we had the same Jimmy's and Joes.  2 years later we're a 2 win team...

What changed?  

In my opinion what changed was that the Doug took his foot off the gas, let Cooter go, and put Press as the main supervisor of the offense while Doug took a back seat.  That's just my opinion.  Based on what has happened since 2022, I think I'm right.

You disagree.  That's cool.  But at the end of the day, I kept telling you that if Doug didn't do something he'd have to be fired.  And guess what?  I was right.  Doug is going to be fired.  And, thankfully, he's taking that OC with him.

It's fine for you to be wrong. No worries!

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

That's a little too specific...  Are you calling out your supervisor?

No. That's Baalke. "Show me those long arms baby! Tell me I am important! That I ain't no clown! Yeahhh! YEAHHHHH".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9t1THQWKAY

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I keep saying it. This organization needs an enema.

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Geez dude, you really are the most obstinately wrong person I've ever talked to. You think the coaches just rest on their laurels while the players fumble TDs, drop passes all over the place, let the QB get murdered, miss tackles, drop INTs, can't collapse the pocket, can't stop anything shorter than 4th and 40...it's just laughable. Do you think adding Bill Belichick tomorrow will make these things better in two weeks? Hint, it won't. You deny the most basic principle of football, ie Jimmy and Joe not X and O. As long as you hold to that position you'll never be right about the problem.

I'll never agree with this.  Sorry.  But that's just my opinion.  The NFL has talent all over the place.  You need coaches that can develop these players and then put them in the best positions to be successful.

2022 we had the same Jimmy's and Joes.  2 years later we're a 2 win team...

What changed?  

In my opinion what changed was that the Doug took his foot off the gas, let Cooter go, and put Press as the main supervisor of the offense while Doug took a back seat.  That's just my opinion.  Based on what has happened since 2022, I think I'm right.

You disagree.  That's cool.  But at the end of the day, I kept telling you that if Doug didn't do something he'd have to be fired.  And guess what?  I was right.  Doug is going to be fired.  And, thankfully, he's taking that OC with him.

I can absolutely promise you that it doesn't matter who the coach is... this isn't a winning team.

You really think Doug stepped back, handed the reigns to Press, and just washed his hands of the offense? Press is running Doug's offense. Press didn't make the offense. He's just calling the plays.

This team hasn't been a good time in a few years. You can talk about the two (barely) winning seasons, but we've been mediocre for a few years.

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All I want to see is a tweet from Shad Khan that says: 'Doug and Trent? Who are Doug and Trent?'

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I'll never agree with this.  Sorry.  But that's just my opinion.  The NFL has talent all over the place.  You need coaches that can develop these players and then put them in the best positions to be successful.

2022 we had the same Jimmy's and Joes.  2 years later we're a 2 win team...

What changed?  

In my opinion what changed was that the Doug took his foot off the gas, let Cooter go, and put Press as the main supervisor of the offense while Doug took a back seat.  That's just my opinion.  Based on what has happened since 2022, I think I'm right.

You disagree.  That's cool.  But at the end of the day, I kept telling you that if Doug didn't do something he'd have to be fired.  And guess what?  I was right.  Doug is going to be fired.  And, thankfully, he's taking that OC with him.

I can absolutely promise you that it doesn't matter who the coach is... this isn't a winning team.

You really think Doug stepped back, handed the reigns to Press, and just washed his hands of the offense? Press is running Doug's offense. Press didn't make the offense. He's just calling the plays.

This team hasn't been a good time in a few years. You can talk about the two (barely) winning seasons, but we've been mediocre for a few years.

I mean, we can't know for sure, because Doug was so flippant during the off-season...  But if you're gonna be that flippant, then what do you expect?

He told us last year that Press was the play caller.  And Press was calling plays while over watching the game in the over-box.  Then, this year Doug told Press to come and call plays on the field.  

Do you not realize the fact that there were red flags all over the place?  It's not that hard to figure out that the coaching staff was suspect.  Again, that's just my opinion.  But with that said.  It's been proven right.  Doug and Press are gone.  Thank goodness.

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I can absolutely promise you that it doesn't matter who the coach is... this isn't a winning team.

You really think Doug stepped back, handed the reigns to Press, and just washed his hands of the offense? Press is running Doug's offense. Press didn't make the offense. He's just calling the plays.

This team hasn't been a good time in a few years. You can talk about the two (barely) winning seasons, but we've been mediocre for a few years.

I mean, we can't know for sure, because Doug was so flippant during the off-season...  But if you're gonna be that flippant, then what do you expect?

He told us last year that Press was the play caller.  And Press was calling plays while over watching the game in the over-box.  Then, this year Doug told Press to come and call plays on the field.  

Do you not realize the fact that there were red flags all over the place?  It's not that hard to figure out that the coaching staff was suspect.  Again, that's just my opinion.  But with that said.  It's been proven right.  Doug and Press are gone.  Thank goodness.

You incorrectly think your opinion has been proven right because, like most amateur intellects, you conflate correlation with causation.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

If I am Ben Johnson, I am picking Burrow/Chase and it's not even close.

If I were a coach I'd take staying where I am over the Jaguars.

Ben Johnson isn't coming. People don't seem to understand that someone like him has options. Just because you can force players to play for Jaguars doesn't mean the same is true for coaches.

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I mean, we can't know for sure, because Doug was so flippant during the off-season...  But if you're gonna be that flippant, then what do you expect?

He told us last year that Press was the play caller.  And Press was calling plays while over watching the game in the over-box.  Then, this year Doug told Press to come and call plays on the field.  

Do you not realize the fact that there were red flags all over the place?  It's not that hard to figure out that the coaching staff was suspect.  Again, that's just my opinion.  But with that said.  It's been proven right.  Doug and Press are gone.  Thank goodness.

You incorrectly think your opinion has been proven right because, like most amateur intellects, you conflate correlation with causation.

Is Doug going to be fired?

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