OK.  Let's cut everything 20%.  Including social security.  Done?

Bless your little heart...

We'd actually have to do a 27% cut across the board.  You game? Why or why not?

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

And those of us at the children’s table understand none of that is relevant.  If your house is filling up with [BLEEP] the first move is to stop the flow of [BLEEP].  It is not to raise the roof to allow more [BLEEP].

OK.  Let's cut everything 20%.  Including social security.  Done?

Sure, just pay me back every dollar I put in.

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

I think it will be on both of them.  

Right now, the total stock market capitalization to GDP ratio ("the Buffett indicator") is at around 2.  That is wildly too high.  

The Buffett Indicator: Market Cap to GDP - Updated Chart | Longtermtrends


The total debt, public and private, in the United States is over $95 trillion.   

Total debt across all sectors U.S. 2022 | Statista

What happens when stocks are that overvalued, and there is that much debt? 

Stock market crash, massive defaults, and depression.

I agree there are reasons for concerned.  This is why we cannot continue the direction we are going. Disruptors are needed in government as the entrenched administrators have proved to not be capable of doing anything significant.

Stocks historically have been valued on average around 18 times earnings. Currently they are at 21-22 times earnings. Fortunately there are only a handful of stocks that are pulling that average higher. They are cyclical semi conductor type stocks due to the push for AI. On the other hand we did have a 4 year period where inflation was 20% and  trillions of dollars were printed.  18*20% = 3.6. add that to the 18 and you have 21.6. A very simplistic approach.

Things should be ok as long as the default rate doesn't dramatically increase. It has moved a little in the last month but we need unemployment to stay low for this to work. The Fed has a duel mandate from congress to get to 2% (they are not there) and full employment. They foresaw the softening labor market despite the over inflated Jobs numbers reported by the current administration. They actually were the ones that forced the reduction of 880,000 in the report by saying they don't use the report. This caused the Fed to cut the rate by .50 instead of .25.

The current PE ratio of the total US stock market is 27.21.  

United States Stock Market: current P/E Ratio


The S&P 500 is at 27.87.

S&P 500 P/E Ratio Quarterly Trends: S&P 500 Earnings | YCharts

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OK.  Let's cut everything 20%.  Including social security.  Done?

Sure, just pay me back every dollar I put in.

Lol.  As long as you get yours, everyone else can get bent!

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

"Bread used to cost me $1.89.  Now it costs $2.54."  

If you tell that person that you now have inflation under control, it doesn't matter to them, because bread still costs $2.54.  That's why Biden/Harris's assertion that inflation was under control fell on deaf ears.  The damage was done, and it couldn't be undone.

One would think that if you pay a porn star for sex, have extramarital affairs, lie your [BLEEP] off (to just name a few) then try to claim that you are a christian that assertion that you have some sort of morality would fall on deaf ears and couldn’t be undone either.

Honestly, I don't ever remember Trump claiming to be a Christian. It's pretty obvious he is not even if he goes through the motions from time to time. Calling yourself something and actually being that thing aren't the same. 

Supporting a Christian POV or Christian values is not indicative of someone being a Christian. It simply means they're supportive in general or for political gain. Every politician caters to whoever they feel will support them the most regardless of their actual personal feelings about them. Trump is no different from Biden, Harris, Obama, Bush 1 & 2, Clinton, etc. but because it's Trump it's wrong and hypocritical. 

Double standards everywhere.

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One would think that if you pay a porn star for sex, have extramarital affairs, lie your [BLEEP] off (to just name a few) then try to claim that you are a christian that assertion that you have some sort of morality would fall on deaf ears and couldn’t be undone either.

Honestly, I don't ever remember Trump claiming to be a Christian. It's pretty obvious he is not even if he goes through the motions from time to time. Calling yourself something and actually being that thing aren't the same. 

Supporting a Christian POV or Christian values is not indicative of someone being a Christian. It simply means they're supportive in general or for political gain. Every politician caters to whoever they feel will support them the most regardless of their actual personal feelings about them. Trump is no different from Biden, Harris, Obama, Bush 1 & 2, Clinton, etc. but because it's Trump it's wrong and hypocritical. 

Double standards everywhere.

Trump never claimed to be a Christian. 
He has spoken about going to church, saying he doesn't go often, he respects it, but he doesn't fully take it seriously. 
And he said at an informal Christian forum that he never really felt a need to ask for forgiveness.
He met with James Dobson and James left that meeting saying Trump was now a "baby Christian." But there was never any follow up, the campaign didn't want to talk about that and it's not clear if Dobson was authorized to say that or not.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

One would think that if you pay a porn star for sex, have extramarital affairs, lie your [BLEEP] off (to just name a few) then try to claim that you are a christian that assertion that you have some sort of morality would fall on deaf ears and couldn’t be undone either.

Honestly, I don't ever remember Trump claiming to be a Christian. 

And again, Christians, get out and vote!” he said to a cheering audience. “Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine! You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian. I love you. Get out. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”

Double standards everywhere.

Your cult for your Orange God is noted and dismissed.

Calling yourself something and actually being that thing aren't the same.

Glad to know that he is a fraudster that uses religion for his personal benefits.

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Honestly, I don't ever remember Trump claiming to be a Christian. 

Honestly, I don't ever remember Trump claiming to be a Christian.

And again, Christians, get out and vote!” he said to a cheering audience. “Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine! You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian. I love you. Get out. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”

Double standards everywhere.

Your cult for your Orange God is noted and dismissed.

Calling yourself something and actually being that thing aren't the same.

Glad to know that he is a fraudster that uses religion to his advange.

If he’s ever been baptized in a church, he’s a Christian whether he’s a good one or not. But keep tilting at those windmills!

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

I agree there are reasons for concerned.  This is why we cannot continue the direction we are going. Disruptors are needed in government as the entrenched administrators have proved to not be capable of doing anything significant.

Stocks historically have been valued on average around 18 times earnings. Currently they are at 21-22 times earnings. Fortunately there are only a handful of stocks that are pulling that average higher. They are cyclical semi conductor type stocks due to the push for AI. On the other hand we did have a 4 year period where inflation was 20% and  trillions of dollars were printed.  18*20% = 3.6. add that to the 18 and you have 21.6. A very simplistic approach.

Things should be ok as long as the default rate doesn't dramatically increase. It has moved a little in the last month but we need unemployment to stay low for this to work. The Fed has a duel mandate from congress to get to 2% (they are not there) and full employment. They foresaw the softening labor market despite the over inflated Jobs numbers reported by the current administration. They actually were the ones that forced the reduction of 880,000 in the report by saying they don't use the report. This caused the Fed to cut the rate by .50 instead of .25.

The current PE ratio of the total US stock market is 27.21.  

United States Stock Market: current P/E Ratio


The S&P 500 is at 27.87.

S&P 500 P/E Ratio Quarterly Trends: S&P 500 Earnings | YCharts

My bad I was referencing Forward P/E.  While I use Trailing P/E, I am investing for the future.  Since the election, stocks have surged dramatically and are reflect here a bit. I truly expect a pull back. So I have been taking advantage and trimming everything. That said, like you I feel the market is over valued especially with the pipe bomb of the growing federal debt.  It is going to be somewhat a double whammy. Refinancing maturing debt at higher interest rates combined with the new debt created.

Dow Jones Industrial Average   
Current or trailing 27.4 
A year ago 25.42
Forward P/E   22.32

S&P 500 Index 25.65 19.69 24.63
Current or trailing 25.65
A year ago 19.69
Forward P/E   24.63

NASDAQ 100 Index               
Current or trailing 33.37
A year ago 29.27
Forward P/E   31.27

https://www.barrons.com/market-data/stocks/us/pe-yields

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

And again, Christians, get out and vote!” he said to a cheering audience. “Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine! You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian. I love you. Get out. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”


Your cult for your Orange God is noted and dismissed.


Glad to know that he is a fraudster that uses religion to his advange.

If he’s ever been baptized in a church, he’s a Christian whether he’s a good one or not.

Umm, K? 

He has already declared himself a christian. The other BS you just typed about being "baptized" is irrelevant to the discussion at hand. But just for argument sake, lets break down your irrelevant point: Christianity is a broad religion, you DONT neccesarily have to be "baptized" to be a christian. 

Believers get baptized. Simply getting baptized will not make you a believer. If you believe that jesus is your lord and savior, then what there is to do is go get baptized. The distinction is between mere belief, and living faithfully. One is an intellectual condition, the other is how you live your life

Think of it like a marriage. If you go to the court with your spouse, and get the papers signed with the judge and witness, then you're married. But if you then go and live separate lives, and date other people, you don't stop being married, but you're not living faithful to your marriage.

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Let's cut the religion talk.

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There are 10 kinds of people in this world.  Those who understand binary and those who don't.

Let's cut the religion talk.

Next time, wear your brass knuckles..

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Let's cut the religion talk.

Here here!

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Let's cut the religion talk.

Here here!

Agreed. It is just a griefer tactic anyway.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

Honestly, I don't ever remember Trump claiming to be a Christian. 

And again, Christians, get out and vote!” he said to a cheering audience. “Just this time. You won’t have to do it anymore. Four more years. You know what? It’ll be fixed! It’ll be fine! You won’t have to vote anymore, my beautiful Christians. I love you, Christians! I’m a Christian. I love you. Get out. You gotta get out and vote. In four years, you don’t have to vote again.”

Double standards everywhere.

Your cult for your Orange God is noted and dismissed.

Calling yourself something and actually being that thing aren't the same.

Glad to know that he is a fraudster that uses religion for his personal benefits.

Thanks for the bolded clarification but go [BLEEP] yourself for everything else you sling around here. 

You need help. Mental illness is a serious problem in this country. Get help or feel free to walk off a cliff.

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Holy cow, I don’t think I’ve ever seen Americus wish ill will on someone.

It’s not safe here at the moment. 

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Holy cow, I don’t think I’ve ever seen Americus wish ill will on someone.

It’s not safe here at the moment. 

She's just catching up to the rest of us lolol

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Holy cow, I don’t think I’ve ever seen Americus wish ill will on someone.

It’s not safe here at the moment. 

Yeah, he pisses me off. So much hate and discontent coming from that dude. I put him on my ignore list. Hopefully I can truly ignore him.

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