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Walmart just leveled with Americans: China won’t be paying for Trump’s tariffs

(This post was last modified: 11-28-2024, 12:17 AM by WingerDinger. Edited 1 time in total.)

(11-27-2024, 11:58 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-27-2024, 11:38 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: Then why are you repeatedly denying it?

There's a textbook example of contrarianism and onstinance.  Did you raise a daughter?

(11-27-2024, 11:58 PM)Jags Wrote: Mike.. you’re smart. I just wanted to explain, to you that I owe you a pat on the head. You’re amazing.  There is a whole tens of  people that read this section and applaud your intellectual superiority.  Sure, they have very short (now) hair tainted blue.  They may not be able to tell the difference from a fart and an idea. They may not be able to distinguish between reality and fantasy land.  But we’re out here Mike!  We’re rooting for you!  And Kamala!  Yall got this! Be smarts! Intellectuals, and suches.  You’re smart man!

Bunnie, you don't need an alt.

I can vouch, that's not bunny lol

Or is it?
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(11-27-2024, 11:58 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-27-2024, 11:38 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: Then why are you repeatedly denying it?

There's a textbook example of contrarianism and onstinance.  Did you raise a daughter?

No, that’s me legitimately disagreeing with you. 

(11-27-2024, 11:58 PM)Jags Wrote: Mike.. you’re smart. I just wanted to explain, to you that I owe you a pat on the head. You’re amazing.  There is a whole tens of  people that read this section and applaud your intellectual superiority.  Sure, they have very short (now) hair tainted blue.  They may not be able to tell the difference from a fart and an idea. They may not be able to distinguish between reality and fantasy land.  But we’re out here Mike!  We’re rooting for you!  And Kamala!  Yall got this! Be smarts! Intellectuals, and suches.  You’re smart man!

Bunnie, you don't need an alt.

It’s hilarious that you think I’d need an alternative account. What’s even more hilarious is this supposed alt of mine still has a higher thumbs up rep than you. Laughing
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(11-27-2024, 11:38 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(11-27-2024, 11:27 PM)mikesez Wrote: Repetition doesn't make it true.

Then why are you repeatedly denying it?

It's funny when he plays contrarian against his own words. It's the classic snake eating its tail.
“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

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(11-28-2024, 10:18 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-27-2024, 11:38 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: Then why are you repeatedly denying it?

It's funny when he plays contrarian against his own words. It's the classic snake eating its tail.

Takes two to tango.
You repeatedly assert, I repeatedly deny.  Makes no sense to use my denials as evidence against me.  Sets up a catch 22 for me.  Straight up bullying.

(11-28-2024, 12:26 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(11-27-2024, 11:58 PM)mikesez Wrote: There's a textbook example of contrarianism and onstinance.  Did you raise a daughter?

No, that’s me legitimately disagreeing with you. 


Bunnie, you don't need an alt.

It’s hilarious that you think I’d need an alternative account. What’s even more hilarious is this supposed alt of mine still has a higher thumbs up rep than you. Laughing

Nothing legitimate about it.  It's harassment and bullying.
If I didn't repeatedly deny it you'd say I was admitting it.  What do you want from me? Just ban me if the answer is nothing.
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(11-28-2024, 10:25 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-28-2024, 10:18 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: It's funny when he plays contrarian against his own words. It's the classic snake eating its tail.

Takes two to tango.
You repeatedly assert, I repeatedly deny.  Makes no sense to use my denials as evidence against me.  Sets up a catch 22 for me.  Straight up bullying.

(11-28-2024, 12:26 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: It’s hilarious that you think I’d need an alternative account. What’s even more hilarious is this supposed alt of mine still has a higher thumbs up rep than you. Laughing

Nothing legitimate about it.  It's harassment and bullying.
If I didn't repeatedly deny it you'd say I was admitting it.  What do you want from me? Just ban me if the answer is nothing.

C'mon dude.. Let it go.. It's Thanksgiving, enjoy yourself.. Family, friends ect ect.. Turn the Parade on, have some breakfast, smoke a joint and be thankful..

Lots to be thankful for if you think about it..

Happy Thanksgiving, Mike..
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(11-28-2024, 10:25 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-28-2024, 10:18 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: It's funny when he plays contrarian against his own words. It's the classic snake eating its tail.

Takes two to tango.
You repeatedly assert, I repeatedly deny.  Makes no sense to use my denials as evidence against me.  Sets up a catch 22 for me.  Straight up bullying.

(11-28-2024, 12:26 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: It’s hilarious that you think I’d need an alternative account. What’s even more hilarious is this supposed alt of mine still has a higher thumbs up rep than you. Laughing

Nothing legitimate about it.  It's harassment and bullying.
If I didn't repeatedly deny it you'd say I was admitting it.  What do you want from me? Just ban me if the answer is nothing.

I didn't repeat your denial, I reposted your ADMISSION. You can deny your own words all you want to, that just shows everyone your lack of character. As I said, you're snake eating your own tail at this point.
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(11-28-2024, 10:33 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(11-28-2024, 10:25 AM)mikesez Wrote: Takes two to tango.
You repeatedly assert, I repeatedly deny.  Makes no sense to use my denials as evidence against me.  Sets up a catch 22 for me.  Straight up bullying.


Nothing legitimate about it.  It's harassment and bullying.
If I didn't repeatedly deny it you'd say I was admitting it.  What do you want from me? Just ban me if the answer is nothing.

I didn't repeat your denial, I reposted your ADMISSION. You can deny your own words all you want to, that just shows everyone your lack of character. As I said, you're snake eating your own tail at this point.

I explained those words.
And you ignored my explanation.
Winger repeatedly tells people to ignore me based on his understanding of these words.  That's why I have to explain what they meant.  Repeatedly.
This ends when you want it to end, and stop bringing up this "Contrarian" trope, or you ban me. I have done nothing deserving being banned.  But the three of you have!
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(11-28-2024, 10:48 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-28-2024, 10:33 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: I didn't repeat your denial, I reposted your ADMISSION. You can deny your own words all you want to, that just shows everyone your lack of character. As I said, you're snake eating your own tail at this point.

I explained those words.
And you ignored my explanation.
Winger repeatedly tells people to ignore me based on his understanding of these words.  That's why I have to explain what they meant.  Repeatedly.
This ends when you want it to end, and stop bringing up this "Contrarian" trope, or you ban me. I have done nothing deserving being banned.  But the three of you have!

Not true
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(This post was last modified: 11-28-2024, 10:58 AM by The Real Marty. Edited 1 time in total.)

Anyway, China is not paying for Trump's tariffs, except in lost business.  American consumers and businesses will pay for Trump's tariffs, in the form of increased costs.

That is, if he doesn't do like he did with Mexico, and claim the threat of tariffs forced them to do something they are already doing.  Then he can declare victory and cancel the tariffs.
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(11-28-2024, 10:51 AM)Jag149 Wrote:
(11-28-2024, 10:48 AM)mikesez Wrote: I explained those words.
And you ignored my explanation.
Winger repeatedly tells people to ignore me based on his understanding of these words.  That's why I have to explain what they meant.  Repeatedly.
This ends when you want it to end, and stop bringing up this "Contrarian" trope, or you ban me. I have done nothing deserving being banned.  But the three of you have!

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(11-28-2024, 10:56 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Anyway, China is not paying for Trump's tariffs, except in lost business.  American consumers and businesses will pay for Trump's tariffs, in the form of increased costs.

That is, if he doesn't do like he did with Mexico, and claim the threat of tariffs forced them to do something they are already doing.  Then he can declare victory and cancel the tariffs.

What is Mexico already doing?
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(11-28-2024, 10:56 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Anyway, China is not paying for Trump's tariffs, except in lost business.  American consumers and businesses will pay for Trump's tariffs, in the form of increased costs.

Interesting thing is the vast majority of companies are already limiting their China exposure. Those with high exposure to the Chinese market have taken quite a beating in the stock market. They are moving fast to places like Vietnam, Thailand, Indonesia and the like. The New "in" place to be is India. A population almost equal to China that is growing unlike China whose one child policy has run it's course resulting in a declining population. They are quietly modifying this policy now. Unlike in China in these other countries companies do not have to worry as much about theft of intellectual property, random arrests of executives, sudden individual bans from leaving the country and no access to the Chinese Justice system.

People can get all twisted up over this tariff thing, but I view it as a waste of emotion and energy. Maybe an attack talking point for the Left leaning and a defending point for the Right.   At the end of the day the actual results will lie somewhere in the middle so both sides will be correct somewhat. This is good as they can then discuss who was more right, which is good and will keep them out of trouble
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(11-28-2024, 10:25 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-28-2024, 10:18 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: It's funny when he plays contrarian against his own words. It's the classic snake eating its tail.

Takes two to tango.
You repeatedly assert, I repeatedly deny.  Makes no sense to use my denials as evidence against me.  Sets up a catch 22 for me.  Straight up bullying.

(11-28-2024, 12:26 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: It’s hilarious that you think I’d need an alternative account. What’s even more hilarious is this supposed alt of mine still has a higher thumbs up rep than you. Laughing

Nothing legitimate about it.  It's harassment and bullying.
If I didn't repeatedly deny it you'd say I was admitting it.  What do you want from me? Just ban me if the answer is nothing.

Wow, you are very sensitive and dramatic this morning. I bet your kid has a stuffy that you can snuggle with. Grab one and go watch the parade.
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(11-28-2024, 11:00 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(11-28-2024, 10:56 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Anyway, China is not paying for Trump's tariffs, except in lost business.  American consumers and businesses will pay for Trump's tariffs, in the form of increased costs.

That is, if he doesn't do like he did with Mexico, and claim the threat of tariffs forced them to do something they are already doing.  Then he can declare victory and cancel the tariffs.

What is Mexico already doing?

Already stopping the caravans.  They've been doing that for about a year already.
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(11-28-2024, 10:58 AM)mikesezprob Wrote:
(11-28-2024, 10:51 AM)Jag149 Wrote: Not true

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The problem is that you see being told you're wrong as defamatory to your self-esteem, being called out on your incorrect posts is inaccurate, recognizing your fallaciousness is abusive, and not letting you get away with your bull [BLEEP] as harassing. Basically you're always violating the first qualifier (posting stuff that's knowingly false) and then trying to use the rules against the people who won't tolerate it.
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(11-28-2024, 11:24 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: The problem is that you see being told you're wrong as defamatory to your self-esteem, being called out on your incorrect posts is inaccurate, recognizing your fallaciousness is abusive, and not letting you get away with your bull [BLEEP] as harassing. Basically you're always violating the first qualifier (posting stuff that's knowingly false) and then trying to use the rules against the people who won't tolerate it.

None of that is true.
Winger calling me a contrarian is defamatory. It injures my reputation.
The rest of you piling on after I explained what that post about contrarians meant is harassment. Harassment includes behaviors that could be interpreted as playful or hurtful, they become harassment if you persist after the recipient informs you that they are unwelcome.

I never
Ever
Ever 
Post stuff that I know to be false, unless the tone obviously indicates I'm joking.
You just defamed me again.
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(11-28-2024, 10:58 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(11-28-2024, 10:51 AM)Jag149 Wrote: Not true

Quote:You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this bulletin board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, invasive of a person's privacy, or otherwise violative of any law.

Reminding you of your own words is not harassment no matter how much you stomp around and pitch a fit. Don’t get mad at us that we didn’t forget what you yourself admitted to on here.
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(11-28-2024, 11:22 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(11-28-2024, 11:00 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: What is Mexico already doing?

Already stopping the caravans.  They've been doing that for about a year already.

Yea, the logistics of moving mass amounts of people are a nightmare. It is easier and more cost effective to move in smaller groups. The initial ones were done for publicity.  Once the UN money began drying up that is.

https://news.un.org/en/story/2018/11/1024882
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(11-28-2024, 11:33 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: Reminding you of your own words is not harassment no matter how much you stomp around and pitch a fit. Don’t get mad at us that we didn’t forget what you yourself admitted to on here.

Could you define contrarian?  I did.  There are multiple possible definitions.
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