Trust me Snowy, you do not want that.

I don't know, I might.  He has all the resources he just has not shown to be a sports guy.  Khan means well but the team has been historical losers under him.

Khan has just an many resources and has been using them correctly for the city and the franchise.  Does he make poor hiring decisions?  Yes.  Is he maybe too patient?  Possibly.  But I'd rather have that than a megalomaniac that can't hold a single thought for more than a few minutes before spouting them out on the internets.  He'd be just as bad as Jerry Jones!

Musk has no impulse control.  You don't want a guy like that running your franchise.  He'd be firing and hiring boot lickers like it was a bodily function.  We don't need boot lickers.  We need an executive that bleads teal (or at least understands the history of the NFL and the Jaguars), has a link to Duval (or at least likes the city enough to want to live here long term), and respects the citizens and fans of the city, and is a grown man with wisdom and passion for the game.  Whoever that may be.  We need to hire real pros to help Khan understand the bigger picture.  Baalke has to go.  He does.  But if Khan can hire an advisor that knows football, isn't a toxic jerk store like Baalke, and that knows the path forward, maybe things could get better.  But it won't happen if all we do is keep changing the Front Office for other deluded, self centered, toxic individuals that think they are the smartest person in every room they ever walk into.  

Then, and only then, can you can start building a culture that means something like we did in the 90s


Edit: AND MUSK WOULD ABSOLUTELY MOVE THE TEAM!!!!!! That would be like the first thing he does.

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Elon Musk could buy the jags,in fact he could buy all 32 nfl teams if he wanted.  why not let him buy  the team. Shad Khan is never never never never never never ever gonna be a success as owner. he will continue to be a clown loser as football owner.

If Elon Musk bought the team he would move it to somewhere else.  Do you really want that?  

YOU HAVE TO GET IT INTO YOUR HEAD THAT YOU CANNOT GET RID OF SHAD KHAN.  ANOTHER OWNER WOULD PROBABLY MOVE THE TEAM.  

ANOTHER OWNER WOULD PROBABLY MOVE THE TEAM.

And I wouldn't call a man who came from literally almost nothing and now has about 12 BILLION dollars "a clown loser."  

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I don't know, I might.  He has all the resources he just has not shown to be a sports guy.  Khan means well but the team has been historical losers under him.

If you want Khan to go, then you want the Jaguars to go.  Because there would be a lot of value to a new owner from moving the team to a larger market.

Is there a larger market looking for a team? Or even one available?

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If you want Khan to go, then you want the Jaguars to go.  Because there would be a lot of value to a new owner from moving the team to a larger market.

Is there a larger market looking for a team? Or even one available?

St. Louis?  San Diego?  And the ever sought after London?  LOL Heck, OKC, Salt Lake City would also be something they'd discuss. Salt Lake City held an Olympics... OKC is fast developing and already has an NBA team. There are cities that would be happy to get the Jaguars if the owner wanted to go. And the NFL wouldn't stop that new owner.

I mean, the thing is, Jacksonville is not looked at highly in terms of national reputation when in comes the NFL talking heads.  I'm sure there are several cities a new owner could lobby the other owners to approve of that would leave our city without an NFL team.

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If you want Khan to go, then you want the Jaguars to go.  Because there would be a lot of value to a new owner from moving the team to a larger market.

Is there a larger market looking for a team? Or even one available?

San Antonio, Austin, Toronto, Mexico City, London, Portland, San Diego.  

I don't know if all of those cities are actively looking for a team, but all those cities are prime candidates.  There's a huge population and a lot of money in Mexico City.  

Let's be careful what we wish for.  Shad Khan has stated many times that he is committed to Jacksonville.  I don't know that another owner would be.

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Is there a larger market looking for a team? Or even one available?

St. Louis?  San Diego?  And the ever sought after London?  LOL  Heck, OKC, Salt Lake City would also be something they'd discuss.  Salt Lake City held an Olympics...  OKC is fast developing and already has an NBA team.  There are cities that would be happy to get the Jaguars if the owner wanted to go.  And the NFL wouldn't stop that new owner.

I mean, the thing is, Jacksonville is not looked at highly in terms of national reputation when in comes the NFL talking heads.  I'm sure there are several cities a new owner could lobby the other owners to approve of that would leave our city without an NFL team.

San Diego would be an option. Of course, they would have to stick a crowbar in their wallet to build a stadium. Is St. Louis a football city? Why did the Rams leave there?

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St. Louis?  San Diego?  And the ever sought after London?  LOL  Heck, OKC, Salt Lake City would also be something they'd discuss.  Salt Lake City held an Olympics...  OKC is fast developing and already has an NBA team.  There are cities that would be happy to get the Jaguars if the owner wanted to go.  And the NFL wouldn't stop that new owner.

I mean, the thing is, Jacksonville is not looked at highly in terms of national reputation when in comes the NFL talking heads.  I'm sure there are several cities a new owner could lobby the other owners to approve of that would leave our city without an NFL team.

San Diego would be an option. Of course, they would have to stick a crowbar in their wallet to build a stadium. Is St. Louis a football city? Why did the Rams leave there?

It's been a while, but if I remember correctly, the Owner of the Rams used a demand for a new stadium as leverage to leave St. Loius.  The city hemmed and hawed, but eventually approved a new stadium worth 1.1 Billion in 2005 dollars.  But the NFL owners said, nope, too late.  [BLEEP] you and [BLEEP] these fans, WE are going to move this team LA.

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The Jaguars will not be in Jacksonville within my lifetime.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

If he keeps running the team like this, who cares. The worst part will be losing all of the development he has done downtown.

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St. Louis?  San Diego?  And the ever sought after London?  LOL  Heck, OKC, Salt Lake City would also be something they'd discuss.  Salt Lake City held an Olympics...  OKC is fast developing and already has an NBA team.  There are cities that would be happy to get the Jaguars if the owner wanted to go.  And the NFL wouldn't stop that new owner.

I mean, the thing is, Jacksonville is not looked at highly in terms of national reputation when in comes the NFL talking heads.  I'm sure there are several cities a new owner could lobby the other owners to approve of that would leave our city without an NFL team.

San Diego would be an option. Of course, they would have to stick a crowbar in their wallet to build a stadium. Is St. Louis a football city? Why did the Rams leave there?

Yes, St. Louis is a football city. The Rams moved because Kroenke is a piece of [BLEEP] that wanted to go to LA market.

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San Diego would be an option. Of course, they would have to stick a crowbar in their wallet to build a stadium. Is St. Louis a football city? Why did the Rams leave there?

It's been a while, but if I remember correctly, the Owner of the Rams used a demand for a new stadium as leverage to leave St. Loius.  The city hemmed and hawed, but eventually approved a new stadium worth 1.1 Billion in 2005 dollars.  But the NFL owners said, nope, too late.  [BLEEP] you and [BLEEP] these fans, WE are going to move this team LA.

This. The city actually approved plans for a top-notch stadium. But the NFL and Kroenke had no intention of staying in St. Louis. Both wanted to get back into the LA market and just used the stadium as an excuse. It's why they settled with St. Louis for 780 million. St. Louis just [BLEEP] up by not baking a contingency that would require the NFL to give St. Louis another team.

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[OC] Every Team's Worst Decade as of 6 years ago.

Last week I made this post detailing each NFL team's best 10 year span in its history. Here is each team's worst. I decided to leave out jokes and "achievements" because the numbers are painful enough.

In chronological order:
Philadelphia Eagles 1933-1942 23-82-4 (.229)
(Chicago) Cardinals/Card-Pitt 1936-1945 20-83-5 (.208)
Pittsburgh Pirates/Steelers/Steagles/Card-Pitt 1937-1946 29-72-6 (.299)
Green Bay Packers 1949-1958 34-84-2 (.292)
Washington Redskins 1956-1965 40-83-7 (.335)
Denver Broncos 1960-1969 39-97-4 (.293)
Houston Oilers 1964-1973 42-93-5 (.319)
Chicago Bears 1966-1975 47-89-4 (.350)
Boston/New England Patriots 1966-1975 45-92-3 (.332)
New Orleans Saints 1968-1977 36-99-5 (.275)
Buffalo Bills 1968-1977 44-93-3 (.325)
(San Diego) Chargers 1969-1978 54-83-5 (.398)
New York Giants 1971-1980 45-100-1 (.312)
San Francisco 49ers 1971-1980 56-89-1 (.387)
Kansas City Chiefs 1974-1983 54-91 (.372)
Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts 1978-1987 47-104-1 (.313)
Atlanta Falcons 1981-1990 50-101-1 (.332)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1983-1992 40-119 (.252)
New York Jets 1987-1996 54-104-1 (.343)
Seattle Seahawks 1991-2000 67-93 (.419)
Cincinnati Bengals 1993-2002 47-113 (.294)
Carolina Panthers 1995-2004 71-89 (.444)
Baltimore Ravens 1996-2005 78-81-1 (.491)
Dallas Cowboys 1997-2006 73-97 (.456)
Detroit Lions 2001-2010 39-121 (.244)
Houston Texans 2002-2011 65-95 (.406)
Miami Dolphins 2004-2013 66-94 (.413)
Minnesota Vikings 2005-2014 76-83-1 (.478)
Oakland Raiders 2005-2014 47-113 (.294)
St. Louis/Los Angeles Rams 2007-2016 46-113-1(.291)
Jacksonville Jaguars 2007-2016 53-107 (.331)
Cleveland Browns 2008-2017 38-122 (.238)

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Oooh, Let’s get Musk to put the DOGE headquarters here in Jax and he could buy the Jaguars. I like it…

Imagine the possibilities

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

Yep, we’ve sucked a long, long time. Incredible really…

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"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"

I don't know, I might.  He has all the resources he just has not shown to be a sports guy.  Khan means well but the team has been historical losers under him.

Khan has just an many resources and has been using them correctly for the city and the franchise.  Does he make poor hiring decisions?  Yes.  Is he maybe too patient?  Possibly.  But I'd rather have that than a megalomaniac that can't hold a single thought for more than a few minutes before spouting them out on the internets.  He'd be just as bad as Jerry Jones!

Musk has no impulse control.  You don't want a guy like that running your franchise.  He'd be firing and hiring boot lickers like it was a bodily function.  We don't need boot lickers.  We need an executive that bleads teal (or at least understands the history of the NFL and the Jaguars), has a link to Duval (or at least likes the city enough to want to live here long term), and respects the citizens and fans of the city, and is a grown man with wisdom and passion for the game.  Whoever that may be.  We need to hire real pros to help Khan understand the bigger picture.  Baalke has to go.  He does.  But if Khan can hire an advisor that knows football, isn't a toxic jerk store like Baalke, and that knows the path forward, maybe things could get better.  But it won't happen if all we do is keep changing the Front Office for other deluded, self centered, toxic individuals that think they are the smartest person in every room they ever walk into.  

Then, and only then, can you can start building a culture that means something like we did in the 90s


Edit:  AND MUSK WOULD ABSOLUTELY MOVE THE TEAM!!!!!!  That would be like the first thing he does.

Agreed. Would you agree it taking 14 years for a billionaire to figure that out might make him the problem?

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[OC] Every Team's Worst Decade as of 6 years ago.

Last week I made this post detailing each NFL team's best 10 year span in its history. Here is each team's worst. I decided to leave out jokes and "achievements" because the numbers are painful enough.

In chronological order:
Philadelphia Eagles 1933-1942 23-82-4 (.229)
(Chicago) Cardinals/Card-Pitt 1936-1945 20-83-5 (.208)
Pittsburgh Pirates/Steelers/Steagles/Card-Pitt 1937-1946 29-72-6 (.299)
Green Bay Packers 1949-1958 34-84-2 (.292)
Washington Redskins 1956-1965 40-83-7 (.335)
Denver Broncos 1960-1969 39-97-4 (.293)
Houston Oilers 1964-1973 42-93-5 (.319)
Chicago Bears 1966-1975 47-89-4 (.350)
Boston/New England Patriots 1966-1975 45-92-3 (.332)
New Orleans Saints 1968-1977 36-99-5 (.275)
Buffalo Bills 1968-1977 44-93-3 (.325)
(San Diego) Chargers 1969-1978 54-83-5 (.398)
New York Giants 1971-1980 45-100-1 (.312)
San Francisco 49ers 1971-1980 56-89-1 (.387)
Kansas City Chiefs 1974-1983 54-91 (.372)
Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts 1978-1987 47-104-1 (.313)
Atlanta Falcons 1981-1990 50-101-1 (.332)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1983-1992 40-119 (.252)
New York Jets 1987-1996 54-104-1 (.343)
Seattle Seahawks 1991-2000 67-93 (.419)
Cincinnati Bengals 1993-2002 47-113 (.294)
Carolina Panthers 1995-2004 71-89 (.444)
Baltimore Ravens 1996-2005 78-81-1 (.491)
Dallas Cowboys 1997-2006 73-97 (.456)
Detroit Lions 2001-2010 39-121 (.244)
Houston Texans 2002-2011 65-95 (.406)
Miami Dolphins 2004-2013 66-94 (.413)
Minnesota Vikings 2005-2014 76-83-1 (.478)
Oakland Raiders 2005-2014 47-113 (.294)
St. Louis/Los Angeles Rams 2007-2016 46-113-1(.291)
Jacksonville Jaguars 2007-2016 53-107 (.331)
Cleveland Browns 2008-2017 38-122 (.238)

For the past month I had been wondering where the last 10 years for the team lines up all-time in comparision to the other teams'. Thanks for the work!

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Is there a larger market looking for a team? Or even one available?

San Antonio, Austin, Toronto, Mexico City, London, Portland, San Diego.  

I don't know if all of those cities are actively looking for a team, but all those cities are prime candidates.  There's a huge population and a lot of money in Mexico City.  

Let's be careful what we wish for.  Shad Khan has stated many times that he is committed to Jacksonville.  I don't know that another owner would be.

[BLEEP] that Stockholm-Syndrome-Battered-Wife [BLEEP].
 The team continually turns a profit with incompetence at its helm; is it any mystery why this man is committed to the city? Would those other markets support a CLOWNSHOW organization to a profit?  After 14 years of said incompetence big screens, swimming pools, neat places to shop and eat, dog and pony shows, cute tweets, Instagram posts and press conferences won't be enough to engender and EARN support. It's time for it to be done on the field. No more compensations, placations or distractions
...JUST WIN, BABY
[BLEEP] NOW

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[OC] Every Team's Worst Decade as of 6 years ago.

Last week I made this post detailing each NFL team's best 10 year span in its history. Here is each team's worst. I decided to leave out jokes and "achievements" because the numbers are painful enough.

In chronological order:
Philadelphia Eagles 1933-1942 23-82-4 (.229)
(Chicago) Cardinals/Card-Pitt 1936-1945 20-83-5 (.208)
Pittsburgh Pirates/Steelers/Steagles/Card-Pitt 1937-1946 29-72-6 (.299)
Green Bay Packers 1949-1958 34-84-2 (.292)
Washington Redskins 1956-1965 40-83-7 (.335)
Denver Broncos 1960-1969 39-97-4 (.293)
Houston Oilers 1964-1973 42-93-5 (.319)
Chicago Bears 1966-1975 47-89-4 (.350)
Boston/New England Patriots 1966-1975 45-92-3 (.332)
New Orleans Saints 1968-1977 36-99-5 (.275)
Buffalo Bills 1968-1977 44-93-3 (.325)
(San Diego) Chargers 1969-1978 54-83-5 (.398)
New York Giants 1971-1980 45-100-1 (.312)
San Francisco 49ers 1971-1980 56-89-1 (.387)
Kansas City Chiefs 1974-1983 54-91 (.372)
Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts 1978-1987 47-104-1 (.313)
Atlanta Falcons 1981-1990 50-101-1 (.332)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1983-1992 40-119 (.252)
New York Jets 1987-1996 54-104-1 (.343)
Seattle Seahawks 1991-2000 67-93 (.419)
Cincinnati Bengals 1993-2002 47-113 (.294)
Carolina Panthers 1995-2004 71-89 (.444)
Baltimore Ravens 1996-2005 78-81-1 (.491)
Dallas Cowboys 1997-2006 73-97 (.456)
Detroit Lions 2001-2010 39-121 (.244)
Houston Texans 2002-2011 65-95 (.406)
Miami Dolphins 2004-2013 66-94 (.413)
Minnesota Vikings 2005-2014 76-83-1 (.478)
Oakland Raiders 2005-2014 47-113 (.294)
St. Louis/Los Angeles Rams 2007-2016 46-113-1(.291)
Jacksonville Jaguars 2007-2016 53-107 (.331)
Cleveland Browns 2008-2017 38-122 (.238)

IMO the best comparisons are the ones around the same amount of games. Let's take Shad's first 10 years here: 42-119 (.260). Bucs, Lions, Browns, Rams stretches stand out the most in comparison. Let's hope another decade stretch isn't on the way after two 9-8 seasons.

Shad overall record is 62-145 (.299) , a good comparison to overall worst decade stretches of teams.

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[OC] Every Team's Worst Decade as of 6 years ago.

Last week I made this post detailing each NFL team's best 10 year span in its history. Here is each team's worst. I decided to leave out jokes and "achievements" because the numbers are painful enough.

In chronological order:
Philadelphia Eagles 1933-1942 23-82-4 (.229)
(Chicago) Cardinals/Card-Pitt 1936-1945 20-83-5 (.208)
Pittsburgh Pirates/Steelers/Steagles/Card-Pitt 1937-1946 29-72-6 (.299)
Green Bay Packers 1949-1958 34-84-2 (.292)
Washington Redskins 1956-1965 40-83-7 (.335)
Denver Broncos 1960-1969 39-97-4 (.293)
Houston Oilers 1964-1973 42-93-5 (.319)
Chicago Bears 1966-1975 47-89-4 (.350)
Boston/New England Patriots 1966-1975 45-92-3 (.332)
New Orleans Saints 1968-1977 36-99-5 (.275)
Buffalo Bills 1968-1977 44-93-3 (.325)
(San Diego) Chargers 1969-1978 54-83-5 (.398)
New York Giants 1971-1980 45-100-1 (.312)
San Francisco 49ers 1971-1980 56-89-1 (.387)
Kansas City Chiefs 1974-1983 54-91 (.372)
Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts 1978-1987 47-104-1 (.313)
Atlanta Falcons 1981-1990 50-101-1 (.332)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 1983-1992 40-119 (.252)
New York Jets 1987-1996 54-104-1 (.343)
Seattle Seahawks 1991-2000 67-93 (.419)
Cincinnati Bengals 1993-2002 47-113 (.294)
Carolina Panthers 1995-2004 71-89 (.444)
Baltimore Ravens 1996-2005 78-81-1 (.491)
Dallas Cowboys 1997-2006 73-97 (.456)
Detroit Lions 2001-2010 39-121 (.244)
Houston Texans 2002-2011 65-95 (.406)
Miami Dolphins 2004-2013 66-94 (.413)
Minnesota Vikings 2005-2014 76-83-1 (.478)
Oakland Raiders 2005-2014 47-113 (.294)
St. Louis/Los Angeles Rams 2007-2016 46-113-1(.291)
Jacksonville Jaguars 2007-2016 53-107 (.331)
Cleveland Browns 2008-2017 38-122 (.238)

For the past month I had been wondering where the last 10 years for the team lines up all-time in comparision to the other teams'. Thanks for the work!

It wasn't my work. I just found someone else who did it all as of 6 years ago.

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I agree with people saying the man has been good to Jax.
And that’s the most important for me..
I care about the city and I love the Jag culture..
I’d rather keep losing than see the team leave Jax,that would be seriously heartbreaking

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[BLEEP] in seats is what keeps teams in cities. Empty seats will never be a good look, vibes are all time low in Jax.

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