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JUST IN: Daniel Penny says he has zero regrets, says he couldn't live with the guilt if someone was hurt on the subway by Jordan Neely.

Penny is an even better person than I thought.

The Marine said he would do a million court appearances if it meant saving someone on the subway.

"I'm not a confrontational person... this type of [interview] is very uncomfortable. All this attention and limelight is very uncomfortable. I would prefer without it."

"I didn't want any type of attention or praise or. And I still don't."

"The guilt I would have felt if someone did get hurt, if he did do what he was threatening to do, I would never be able to live with myself."

"I'll take a million court appearances and people calling me names and people hating me just to keep one of those people from getting hurt or killed."

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Personally, I'm glad he was acquitted. That said we do have a problem with our system dealing with people with mental issues, who may be a danger to society.

Again ... I'm glad he was acquitted but would the majority of Americans feel the same if Penny was a black man and Neely was a white veteran of the US military taking that same action on the subway?

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Personally, I'm glad he was acquitted.  That said we do have a problem with our system dealing with people with mental issues, who may be a danger to society.

Again ... I'm glad he was acquitted but would the majority of Americans feel the same if Penny was a black man and Neely was a white veteran of the US military taking that same action on the subway?

I would.. This isn't about skin color, this is about right and wrong.

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Personally, I'm glad he was acquitted.  That said we do have a problem with our system dealing with people with mental issues, who may be a danger to society.

Again ... I'm glad he was acquitted but would the majority of Americans feel the same if Penny was a black man and Neely was a white veteran of the US military taking that same action on the subway?

I would.. This isn't about skin color, this is about right and wrong.

100% this.

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Personally, I'm glad he was acquitted.  That said we do have a problem with our system dealing with people with mental issues, who may be a danger to society.

Again ... I'm glad he was acquitted but would the majority of Americans feel the same if Penny was a black man and Neely was a white veteran of the US military taking that same action on the subway?

I would.. This isn't about skin color, this is about right and wrong.

That's one.  I hope there are more who agree with you, for once.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

I would.. This isn't about skin color, this is about right and wrong.

That's one.  I hope there are more who agree with you, for once.

I'm not sure who wouldn't agree with that. Other than the grifters wanting to stoke the racial flames and the people brainwashed by them, everyone should see it like that.

We have to bring mental institutions back. The family needs to be sued by NYC and the people who he attacked. Put the onus on the family to do something instead of ignoring the problem.

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That's one.  I hope there are more who agree with you, for once.

I'm not sure who wouldn't agree with that. Other than the grifters wanting to stoke the racial flames and the people brainwashed by them, everyone should see it like that.

We have to bring mental institutions back. The family needs to be sued by NYC and the people who he attacked. Put the onus on the family to do something instead of ignoring the problem.

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This is a great deal more complicated than people think it is. You don't just walk into a mental health facility and say you have a family member who needs help and they're welcomed with open arms. Far from it. You can see a shrink on the regular and have an 'episode' and be hard pressed to be admitted into an inpatient facility. And that's if you have insurance. If you don't have insurance it takes an act of God in order to get treatment. 

100% of the time the first thing they do is change your meds if you're on any because they assume that's the problem. If you aren't taking any they put you on whatever they think you should be on without even talking to you first. They get you 'stable,' which usually takes 72 hours for reasons unknown to me, then they cut you loose. If you have insurance they might keep you longer. There is no actual care for these folks. 

My uncle ended up committing suicide because he couldn't get the help he desperately needed.

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Personally, I'm glad he was acquitted.  That said we do have a problem with our system dealing with people with mental issues, who may be a danger to society.

Again ... I'm glad he was acquitted but would the majority of Americans feel the same if Penny was a black man and Neely was a white veteran of the US military taking that same action on the subway?

My opinion is the majority of Americans don’t care about race.  I also theorise that had the races been reversed and everything else was the identical Bragg would have never brought charges.

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At some point you just have to let go of what you thought should happen and live in what is happening.
 

Personally, I'm glad he was acquitted.  That said we do have a problem with our system dealing with people with mental issues, who may be a danger to society.

Again ... I'm glad he was acquitted but would the majority of Americans feel the same if Penny was a black man and Neely was a white veteran of the US military taking that same action on the subway?

My opinion is the majority of Americans don’t care about race.  I also theorise that had the races been reversed and everything else was the identical Bragg would have never brought charges.

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Personally, I'm glad he was acquitted.  That said we do have a problem with our system dealing with people with mental issues, who may be a danger to society.

Again ... I'm glad he was acquitted but would the majority of Americans feel the same if Penny was a black man and Neely was a white veteran of the US military taking that same action on the subway?

My opinion is the majority of Americans don’t care about race.  I also theorise that had the races been reversed and everything else was the identical Bragg would have never brought charges.

I think it's selective, based on the subject matter.   It also varies based on generation as well.

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I'm not sure who wouldn't agree with that. Other than the grifters wanting to stoke the racial flames and the people brainwashed by them, everyone should see it like that.

We have to bring mental institutions back. The family needs to be sued by NYC and the people who he attacked. Put the onus on the family to do something instead of ignoring the problem.

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This is a great deal more complicated than people think it is. You don't just walk into a mental health facility and say you have a family member who needs help and they're welcomed with open arms. Far from it. You can see a shrink on the regular and have an 'episode' and be hard pressed to be admitted into an inpatient facility. And that's if you have insurance. If you don't have insurance it takes an act of God in order to get treatment. 

100% of the time the first thing they do is change your meds if you're on any because they assume that's the problem. If you aren't taking any they put you on whatever they think you should be on without even talking to you first. They get you 'stable,' which usually takes 72 hours for reasons unknown to me, then they cut you loose. If you have insurance they might keep you longer. There is no actual care for these folks. 

My uncle ended up committing suicide because he couldn't get the help he desperately needed.

72 hours in an inpatient institution may be enough time for most, but they need regular outpatient checkups afterwards.  In my book someone with a newly diagnosed mental illness is going to need months to "stabilize" to the point where they only need check ins a couple of times a year.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

I would.. This isn't about skin color, this is about right and wrong.

100% this.

Yes.

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"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption

This is a great deal more complicated than people think it is. You don't just walk into a mental health facility and say you have a family member who needs help and they're welcomed with open arms. Far from it. You can see a shrink on the regular and have an 'episode' and be hard pressed to be admitted into an inpatient facility. And that's if you have insurance. If you don't have insurance it takes an act of God in order to get treatment. 

100% of the time the first thing they do is change your meds if you're on any because they assume that's the problem. If you aren't taking any they put you on whatever they think you should be on without even talking to you first. They get you 'stable,' which usually takes 72 hours for reasons unknown to me, then they cut you loose. If you have insurance they might keep you longer. There is no actual care for these folks. 

My uncle ended up committing suicide because he couldn't get the help he desperately needed.

72 hours in an inpatient institution may be enough time for most, but they need regular outpatient checkups afterwards.  In my book someone with a newly diagnosed mental illness is going to need months to "stabilize" to the point where they only need check ins a couple of times a year.

*Sigh*

72 hours doesn't do anything even close to stabilizing a person who is already on meds. All psychiatric meds have side effects and withdrawal symptoms, some quite severe, so when you go into a facility and they change your meds not only will your brain and body start to feel withdrawals from those meds, but they'll feel the side effects from the new ones. 

The person that isn't already on meds has a better chance of being stabilized but unless they follow-up with a doctor after they're released or go through an outpatient program it's temporary. Can you guess how many folks actually do this? Not as many as you think, especially if they're homeless, live in a shelter, or were in the psych facility against their will, i.e. Baker Acted. 

As for the newly diagnosed? Depending on where they were diagnosed they're not going to get anything remotely close to stabilized. 

The lack of mental health care in this country should seriously concern more people than it does. It doesn't just affect the victims of mass shootings, subway riders and road rage victims. It affects your neighbors, the kids your kid goes to school with, your doctor, your co-workers, etc., and all of their families, friends and others they have contact with. 

It's a bigger problem and more serious than Covid ever was or will be because no one who can do anything meaningful about it lifts a finger to do so.

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72 hours in an inpatient institution may be enough time for most, but they need regular outpatient checkups afterwards.  In my book someone with a newly diagnosed mental illness is going to need months to "stabilize" to the point where they only need check ins a couple of times a year.

*Sigh*

72 hours doesn't do anything even close to stabilizing a person who is already on meds. All psychiatric meds have side effects and withdrawal symptoms, some quite severe, so when you go into a facility and they change your meds not only will your brain and body start to feel withdrawals from those meds, but they'll feel the side effects from the new ones. 

The person that isn't already on meds has a better chance of being stabilized but unless they follow-up with a doctor after they're released or go through an outpatient program it's temporary. Can you guess how many folks actually do this? Not as many as you think, especially if they're homeless, live in a shelter, or were in the psych facility against their will, i.e. Baker Acted. 

As for the newly diagnosed? Depending on where they were diagnosed they're not going to get anything remotely close to stabilized. 

The lack of mental health care in this country should seriously concern more people than it does. It doesn't just affect the victims of mass shootings, subway riders and road rage victims. It affects your neighbors, the kids your kid goes to school with, your doctor, your co-workers, etc., and all of their families, friends and others they have contact with. 

It's a bigger problem and more serious than Covid ever was or will be because no one who can do anything meaningful about it lifts a finger to do so.

I agree.  The easiest crisis to respond to is someone who hasn't been on meds and who has a home to go back to.  Those people often get adequate help.  As you explained, a lot of cases aren't like that and we need to respond to those better.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

Enjoy the game!!

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/18...LYhCw&s=19

Daniel Penny accepts VP-elect JD Vance's invite to be his "personal guest" at the Army-Navy game Saturday.

Vance and Penny will join President-elect Donald Trump in his private suite during the game.

VANCE: "I’m grateful he accepted my invitation and hope he’s able to have fun and appreciate how much his fellow citizens admire his courage."

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*Sigh*

72 hours doesn't do anything even close to stabilizing a person who is already on meds. All psychiatric meds have side effects and withdrawal symptoms, some quite severe, so when you go into a facility and they change your meds not only will your brain and body start to feel withdrawals from those meds, but they'll feel the side effects from the new ones. 

The person that isn't already on meds has a better chance of being stabilized but unless they follow-up with a doctor after they're released or go through an outpatient program it's temporary. Can you guess how many folks actually do this? Not as many as you think, especially if they're homeless, live in a shelter, or were in the psych facility against their will, i.e. Baker Acted. 

As for the newly diagnosed? Depending on where they were diagnosed they're not going to get anything remotely close to stabilized. 

The lack of mental health care in this country should seriously concern more people than it does. It doesn't just affect the victims of mass shootings, subway riders and road rage victims. It affects your neighbors, the kids your kid goes to school with, your doctor, your co-workers, etc., and all of their families, friends and others they have contact with. 

It's a bigger problem and more serious than Covid ever was or will be because no one who can do anything meaningful about it lifts a finger to do so.

I agree.  The easiest crisis to respond to is someone who hasn't been on meds and who has a home to go back to.  Those people often get adequate help.  As you explained, a lot of cases aren't like that and we need to respond to those better.

A lot of those folks refuse help actually. The stigma of mental illness prevents them from accepting it.

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I agree.  The easiest crisis to respond to is someone who hasn't been on meds and who has a home to go back to.  Those people often get adequate help.  As you explained, a lot of cases aren't like that and we need to respond to those better.

A lot of those folks refuse help actually. The stigma of mental illness prevents them from accepting it.

Right but we were talking about involuntary commitments.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.