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Trump wants to deport American Citizens


(12-17-2024, 05:42 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 04:50 PM)copycat Wrote: Do you even watch the news?

No I dont watch Disney channels like Fox News.

You need to back up your ridiculous claims.

Why you ignore every link posted.

Quote:Housing
The bastards.

Here’s a thought.  Instead our tax dollars paying for the housing how about you and your ilk house and feed them in your homes?

Quote:Stipends
Link?

Why? Every link posted you ignore.
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(This post was last modified: 12-17-2024, 08:17 PM by TDOSS.)

(12-17-2024, 06:34 PM)The Drifter Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 06:31 PM)TDOSS Wrote: They claim that  the fiscal costs are $42 billion a year. That is 0.68% of the annual federal budget. If you think that is a massive imposition, then you do not understand math

Nice hatchet job of an article though!

42 Billion..... That's a nice chunk of change that should go to taking care of our veterans and not those damn fence jumpers...........
False comparison designed to elicit an emotional response. It's not one or the other but it gets the xenophobic morons ( I really like that description) all worked up.

(12-17-2024, 07:53 PM)copycat Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 05:42 PM)TDOSS Wrote: No I dont watch Disney channels like Fox News.

You need to back up your ridiculous claims.

Why you ignore every link posted.

The bastards.


Link?

Why? Every link posted you ignore.
Which link did I ignore? Or are you being dishonest again?
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(12-17-2024, 08:14 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 06:34 PM)The Drifter Wrote: 42 Billion..... That's a nice chunk of change that should go to taking care of our veterans and not those damn fence jumpers...........
False comparison designed to elicit an emotional response. It's not one or the other but it gets the xenophobic morons ( I really like that description) all worked up.


Veterans served and gave back to our country, even willing to give their lives for what it stands for. They deserve anything and everything and even more than we give them. Fence jumping illegals have not contributed one damn thing to this country yet they take take take because idiots like you are willing to give give give them anything they want. So, just take a few into your house and turn over your paycheck to support them since you feel they are worthy of it, the AMERICAN taxpaying public deserves better........
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(12-17-2024, 06:37 PM)The Drifter Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 06:35 PM)TDOSS Wrote: MAGAs are stupid. They think that by being put in a homeless shelter is a benefit. 

Then he goes on talking about cellphones  Laughing

Little does he know the phones are actually tracking devices for asylum seekers. They can't make calls, they can't reach the Internet. It's significantly cheaper than detaining them in a facility.

There are a lot of homeless veterans that would LOVE to be in a shelter or one of those 5 star hotels that NYC was putting those fence jumpers in........

Any homeless veteran is equally eligible to get the whatever free housing those migrants were getting in NYC. It was for all homeless people. And it had nothing to do with Biden or your tax money.
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(12-17-2024, 08:26 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 06:37 PM)The Drifter Wrote: There are a lot of homeless veterans that would LOVE to be in a shelter or one of those 5 star hotels that NYC was putting those fence jumpers in........

Any homeless veteran is equally eligible to get the whatever free housing those migrants were getting in NYC. It was for all homeless people. And it had nothing to do with Biden or your tax money.

Link? because I think you're full of BS...........
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(12-17-2024, 11:34 AM)TDOSS Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 11:10 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Here you go DOOF, sworn testimony to the House Judicial Committee from January. Now, I know you won't accept this big, fat, honking, red "L", but that's ok, your acceptance of reality isn't required for me to mock you anyway.

https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/doc/t...payers.pdf

They call individuals illegal immigrants as opposed to deportable aliens so cannot be trusted as neutral. They are a biased organization.

This thing you linked to is probably [BLEEP]. Should I look into this "Center for Immigration Studies," or will you just admit it is an anti-immigrant propaganda outfit, and we can move on?

Ok, so we've reaffirmed that you're an idiot. As expected of course, as expected.
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(12-17-2024, 08:28 PM)The Drifter Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 08:26 PM)mikesez Wrote: Any homeless veteran is equally eligible to get the whatever free housing those migrants were getting in NYC. It was for all homeless people. And it had nothing to do with Biden or your tax money.

Link? because I think you're full of BS...........

How about you find a link that says a homeless veteran was turned away from New York's free housing offer.
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(12-17-2024, 08:38 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 08:28 PM)The Drifter Wrote: Link? because I think you're full of BS...........

How about you find a link that says a homeless veteran was turned away from New York's free housing offer.

Why should I do your work?????? You're the one stating it as a fact so..... It's up to you to prove it..... Especially when cities like New York and Chicago specifically earmarked monies for illegals to provide them services....... More than what some Vets were getting........
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(12-17-2024, 08:54 PM)The Drifter Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 08:38 PM)mikesez Wrote: How about you find a link that says a homeless veteran was turned away from New York's free housing offer.

Why should I do your work?????? You're the one stating it as a fact so..... It's up to you to prove it..... Especially when cities like New York and Chicago specifically earmarked monies for illegals to provide them services....... More than what some Vets were getting........

If a homeless veteran was turned away from housing assistance that illegal immigrants were getting, that would be newsworthy.
I'm saying it didn't happen.
The news usually doesn't make articles about things that didn't happen. I won't be able to find an article about a nuclear bomb going off in Jacksonville, just like you won't be able to find an article about a homeless veteran being turned away in New York City.

Then you make another claim. Money was specifically earmarked? Prove it.
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(This post was last modified: 12-17-2024, 09:47 PM by TDOSS.)

(12-17-2024, 07:53 PM)copycat Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 05:42 PM)TDOSS Wrote: No I dont watch Disney channels like Fox News.

You need to back up your ridiculous claims.

Why you ignore every link posted.

The bastards.

Here’s a thought.  Instead our tax dollars paying for the housing how about you and your ilk house and feed them in your homes?

Another dopey post. Congrats. How about we increase our immigration resources and welcome more citizens. Or how about the cons that want to have illegals in the homes of those that disagree with their xenophobia are charged more for groceries, homes, child care, restaurant service, landscaping and any other service or good that they pay less for as a result.

Yea, just as dopey as your proposal.

(12-17-2024, 09:30 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 08:54 PM)The Drifter Wrote: Why should I do your work?????? You're the one stating it as a fact so..... It's up to you to prove it..... Especially when cities like New York and Chicago specifically earmarked monies for illegals to provide them services....... More than what some Vets were getting........



Then you make another claim.  Money was specifically earmarked? Prove it.

They can't. Creating a boogeyman that must be vanquished is much more effective getting the xenophobic morons all worked up
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(12-17-2024, 02:05 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 01:34 PM)TDOSS Wrote: You want us to believe the testimony of the leader of an anti-immigration think tank as true?

Not likely. Did you look at this source or just like the headline?

Site a real source. This is an opinion piece from a kook.

Prepared Testimony of Steven A. CamarotaDirector of ResearchCenter for Immigration Studies  Laughing

Everyone else on here knows the border is an open door.
Laughing

Lets try again, when did the open border happen? Be specific. You repeating the samething doesnt make it a fact

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(12-17-2024, 08:25 PM)The Drifter Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 08:14 PM)TDOSS Wrote: False comparison designed to elicit an emotional response. It's not one or the other but it gets the xenophobic morons ( I really like that description) all worked up.


 Fence jumping illegals have not contributed one damn thing to this country yet they take take take because idiots like you are willing to give give give them anything they want. So, just take a few into your house and turn over your paycheck to support them since you feel they are worthy of it, the AMERICAN taxpaying public deserves better........

Per usual you are wrong.

Quote:Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local governments.”

https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/

https://calbudgetcenter.org/news/new-stu...es-a-year/

(12-17-2024, 08:54 PM)The Drifter Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 08:38 PM)mikesez Wrote: How about you find a link that says a homeless veteran was turned away from New York's free housing offer.

Why should I do your work?????? You're the one stating it as a fact so..... It's up to you to prove it..... Especially when cities like New York and Chicago specifically earmarked monies for illegals to provide them services....... More than what some Vets were getting........

I see the very rich buddy of the malignant narcissist scumbag piece of [BLEEP] liar grifter rapist seditionist felon serial adulterer and tax cheat is looking to reduce veterans benefits. PATRIOTISM! BLESS THE ORANGE SAVIOR!!!
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(12-17-2024, 10:05 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 08:25 PM)The Drifter Wrote:  Fence jumping illegals have not contributed one damn thing to this country yet they take take take because idiots like you are willing to give give give them anything they want. So, just take a few into your house and turn over your paycheck to support them since you feel they are worthy of it, the AMERICAN taxpaying public deserves better........

Per usual you are wrong.

Quote:Undocumented immigrants paid $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Most of that amount, $59.4 billion, was paid to the federal government while the remaining $37.3 billion was paid to state and local governments.”

https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/

https://calbudgetcenter.org/news/new-stu...es-a-year/

(12-17-2024, 08:54 PM)The Drifter Wrote: Why should I do your work?????? You're the one stating it as a fact so..... It's up to you to prove it..... Especially when cities like New York and Chicago specifically earmarked monies for illegals to provide them services....... More than what some Vets were getting........

I see the very rich buddy of the malignant narcissist scumbag piece of [BLEEP] liar grifter rapist seditionist felon serial adulterer and tax cheat is looking to reduce veterans benefits. PATRIOTISM! BLESS THE ORANGE SAVIOR!!!

Interesting opinion. Like all the other opinions you have. Sometimes they just crack me up. You need to take a course on how to do this as your getting schooled. Improve yourself then try again. Close but no cigar...Smile
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(12-17-2024, 05:50 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 04:50 PM)Jag149 Wrote: No one has said they are federal benefits except you and TD. Beside it is not worth discussing this. January 20th the free ride ends. That is unless you two want to pay out of your own pocket? Since you guys are so passionate it shouldn't be an issue correct?

How is Trump going to prevent anyone from receiving benefits that are not federal benefits?

How many benefits do you think they’d get from here back in their home country?
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(12-17-2024, 10:22 PM)Jag149 Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 10:05 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Per usual you are wrong.


https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/

https://calbudgetcenter.org/news/new-stu...es-a-year/


I see the very rich buddy of the malignant narcissist scumbag piece of [BLEEP] liar grifter rapist seditionist felon serial adulterer and tax cheat is looking to reduce veterans benefits. PATRIOTISM! BLESS THE ORANGE SAVIOR!!!

Interesting opinion. Like all the other opinions you have. Sometimes they just crack me up. You need to take a course on how to do this as you’re getting schooled. Improve yourself then try again. Close but no cigar...Smile

Dude is nothing but a troll. He was fun at first, but now hes not even trying to hide it anymore.
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(12-17-2024, 11:12 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 10:22 PM)Jag149 Wrote: Interesting opinion. Like all the other opinions you have. Sometimes they just crack me up. You need to take a course on how to do this as you’re getting schooled. Improve yourself then try again. Close but no cigar...Smile

Dude is nothing but a troll. He was fun at first, but now hes not even trying to hide it anymore.

I am uncertain he is even that, if he is then he is failing.
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(12-17-2024, 11:00 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 05:50 PM)mikesez Wrote: How is Trump going to prevent anyone from receiving benefits that are not federal benefits?

How many benefits do you think they’d get from here back in their home country?
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(12-17-2024, 10:22 PM)Jag149 Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 10:05 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Per usual you are wrong.


https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/

https://calbudgetcenter.org/news/new-stu...es-a-year/


I see the very rich buddy of the malignant narcissist scumbag piece of [BLEEP] liar grifter rapist seditionist felon serial adulterer and tax cheat is looking to reduce veterans benefits. PATRIOTISM! BLESS THE ORANGE SAVIOR!!!

Interesting opinion. Like all the other opinions you have. 

I like them.
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(12-17-2024, 11:00 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 05:50 PM)mikesez Wrote: How is Trump going to prevent anyone from receiving benefits that are not federal benefits?

How many benefits do you think they’d get from here back in their home country?

For federal benefits, the same amount.
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(12-19-2024, 08:40 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(12-17-2024, 11:00 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: How many benefits do you think they’d get from here back in their home country?

For federal benefits, the same amount.

How about the other billions in benefits they steal every year? Would they still get those too, or does that money not count in Dip [BLEEP] World where you live?
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