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(12-19-2024, 07:17 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I don't really want to get dragged into this dumpster fire of a thread, but I think it's safe for Mikey to say that most people who went in the Capitol building were intending to disrupt Congress. The whole point of the protest was to show displeasure at the way the system handled the election. Where I disagree with Mikey (and where I think it's important to disagree), is that (1) it's not insurrection to protest in a way that disrupts the process. (2) MOST people in that building were not trying to overthrow the US government. It was first and foremost and attempt to remind the congress that (3) the people felt unheard and ignored, and it's not ok to just trample on those feelings with zero repercussions.

(1) It depends which process we are disrupting and why.

(2) They were all trying to prevent Biden from taking office.  Biden had won the election. The President is the head of the government. Preventing the guy who won from taking office as President is overthrowing the government, full stop.

(3) People feel that way for various reasons all the time.  These particular people only felt that way at that time because Trump lied. The members of Congress mostly knew it was all lies.
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(12-19-2024, 07:17 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I don't really want to get dragged into this dumpster fire of a thread, but I think it's safe for Mikey to say that most people who went in the Capitol building were intending to disrupt Congress. The whole point of the protest was to show displeasure at the way the system handled the election. Where I disagree with Mikey (and where I think it's important to disagree), is that it's not insurrection to protest in a way that disrupts the process. MOST people in that building were not trying to overthrow the US government. It was first and foremost and attempt to remind the congress that the people felt unheard and ignored, and it's not ok to just trample on those feelings with zero repercussions.

They have a right to protest.

What is the reason that they were there to protest? Who called them there that day? Why were they called?
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(12-19-2024, 08:12 AM)TDOSS Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 07:17 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I don't really want to get dragged into this dumpster fire of a thread, but I think it's safe for Mikey to say that most people who went in the Capitol building were intending to disrupt Congress. The whole point of the protest was to show displeasure at the way the system handled the election. Where I disagree with Mikey (and where I think it's important to disagree), is that it's not insurrection to protest in a way that disrupts the process. MOST people in that building were not trying to overthrow the US government. It was first and foremost and attempt to remind the congress that the people felt unheard and ignored, and it's not ok to just trample on those feelings with zero repercussions.

They have a right to protest.

What is the reason that they were there to protest? Who called them there that day? Why were they called?

To protest the stolen 2020 election.

I did, I have reach far beyond your comprehension. Once I put out word on MySpace my Friends flocked to the capital.

To protest the stolen 2020 election.

You're welcome!
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(12-19-2024, 11:26 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 08:12 AM)TDOSS Wrote: They have a right to protest.

What is the reason that they were there to protest? Who called them there that day? Why were they called?

To protest the stolen 2020 election.

I did, I have reach far beyond your comprehension. Once I put out word on MySpace my Friends flocked to the capital.

To protest the stolen 2020 election.

You're welcome!

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(12-19-2024, 11:26 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 08:12 AM)TDOSS Wrote: They have a right to protest.

What is the reason that they were there to protest? Who called them there that day? Why were they called?


To protest the stolen 2020 election.

You're welcome!

Why? It was clearly based on baldfaced and shameless lies, made out of whole cloth, by an unscrupulous politician.
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(12-19-2024, 12:20 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 11:26 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: To protest the stolen 2020 election.

You're welcome!

Why? It was clearly based on baldfaced and shameless lies, made out of whole cloth, by an unscrupulous politician.

Yeah, sure. Biden campaigning from his basement in a state of near-catatonic dementia really got 25% more votes than recent significantly better and more popular dem candidates (Bubba Clinton, Oblablah, Killary) in the same election where we just happened to permit the carpet bombing of blank ballots on the entire nation and then immediately lost all those voters and reverted to the norm in the next election when we stopped that nonsense. Lol, you're not really that naive; that's Mikesez-level gullibility. The 2020 election was stolen, period. You know it, as someone who hasn't once pulled the lever for Trump I know it...we all know it. You just accept the lie to preserve your worldview.
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(12-19-2024, 01:21 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 12:20 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Why? It was clearly based on baldfaced and shameless lies, made out of whole cloth, by an unscrupulous politician.

Yeah, sure. Biden campaigning from his basement is a state of near-catatonic dementia really got 25% more votes than recent significantly better and more popular dem candidates (Bubba Clinton, Oblablah, Killary) in the same election where we just happened to permit the carpet bombing of blank ballots on the entire nation and then immediately lost all those voters and reverted to the norm in the next election when we stopped that nonsense. Lol, you're not really that naive; that's Mikesez-level gullibility. The 2020 election was stolen, period. You know it, as someone who hasn't once pulled the lever for Trump I know it...we all know it. You just accept the lie to preserve your worldview.

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(12-19-2024, 11:42 AM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 11:26 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: To protest the stolen 2020 election.

I did, I have reach far beyond your comprehension. Once I put out word on MySpace my Friends flocked to the capital.

To protest the stolen 2020 election.

You're welcome!

Are you Tom???

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(12-19-2024, 01:21 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 12:20 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Why? It was clearly based on baldfaced and shameless lies, made out of whole cloth, by an unscrupulous politician.

Yeah, sure. Biden campaigning from his basement in a state of near-catatonic dementia really got 25% more votes than recent significantly better and more popular dem candidates (Bubba Clinton, Oblablah, Killary) in the same election where we just happened to permit the carpet bombing of blank ballots on the entire nation and then immediately lost all those voters and reverted to the norm in the next election when we stopped that nonsense. Lol, you're not really that naive; that's Mikesez-level gullibility. The 2020 election was stolen, period. You know it, as someone who hasn't once pulled the lever for Trump I know it...we all know it. You just accept the lie to preserve your worldview.

You know this based on what evidence?

Trump couldn't produce it in any of the dozens of court cases on this. So you must know something he doesn't. Interesting! I am all ears!

Trump has had every opportunity in the world to prove that the 2020 election was indeed stolen.


Guess what he has yet to do.
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Were undercover sources from other DOJ agencies present on Jan. 6? Grassley, Johnson demand answers
DOJ IG Horowitz said there were 26 confidential human sources in the crowd on Jan. 6, 2021

Senate Republicans are demanding answers on whether confidential human sources from Justice Department agencies beyond the FBI were used on Jan. 6, 2021, while also questioning whether Inspector General Michael Horowitz thoroughly reviewed classified and unclassified communications between handlers and their sources, warning that without that review, there may be a "major blind spot" in his findings.

Horowitz last week released his highly anticipated report that there were more than two dozen FBI confidential human sources in the crowd outside the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, but only three were assigned by the bureau to be present for the event. Horowitz said none of the sources were authorized or directed by the FBI to "break the law" or "encourage others to commit illegal acts."

But now, Sens. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, and Ron Johnson, R-Wis., are demanding further information from Horowitz, writing to him in a letter exclusively obtained by Fox News Digital that it is "unclear" if his office reviewed the use of confidential human sources by other DOJ components during the Capitol riot.

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(12-19-2024, 02:21 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 01:21 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Yeah, sure. Biden campaigning from his basement in a state of near-catatonic dementia really got 25% more votes than recent significantly better and more popular dem candidates (Bubba Clinton, Oblablah, Killary) in the same election where we just happened to permit the carpet bombing of blank ballots on the entire nation and then immediately lost all those voters and reverted to the norm in the next election when we stopped that nonsense. Lol, you're not really that naive; that's Mikesez-level gullibility. The 2020 election was stolen, period. You know it, as someone who hasn't once pulled the lever for Trump I know it...we all know it. You just accept the lie to preserve your worldview.

You know this based on what evidence?

Trump couldn't produce it in any of the dozens of court cases on this. So you must know something he doesn't. Interesting! I am all ears!

Trump has had every opportunity in the world to prove that the 2020 election was indeed stolen.


Guess what he has yet to do.

And how many of those cases weren't heard for lack of standing? So...no, he hasn't had every opportunity and now we are starting to see that he was right about everything, including the 4am fraudulent spike in votes. You lefties love to count those votes until you win, but we saw the playbook and it won't happen again. Donald Trump is our President again, for good and for ill, and you only have one hope of that ending anytime soon. So shave that head and go scream at the sky like the rest of your ilk, we'll be here to toss another log on the fire when you tucker out.
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(12-21-2024, 09:54 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 02:21 PM)TDOSS Wrote: You know this based on what evidence?

Trump couldn't produce it in any of the dozens of court cases on this. So you must know something he doesn't. Interesting! I am all ears!

Trump has had every opportunity in the world to prove that the 2020 election was indeed stolen.


Guess what he has yet to do.

And how many of those cases weren't heard for lack of standing? So...no, he hasn't had every opportunity and now we are starting to see that he was right about everything, including the 4am fraudulent spike in votes. You lefties love to count those votes until you win, but we saw the playbook and it won't happen again. Donald Trump is our President again, for good and for ill, and you only have one hope of that ending anytime soon. So shave that head and go scream at the sky like the rest of your ilk, we'll be here to toss another log on the fire when you tucker out.
What proof has been presented that the "4AM spike in votes" was indeed fraudulent?
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(12-21-2024, 10:21 AM)TDOSS Wrote:
(12-21-2024, 09:54 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: And how many of those cases weren't heard for lack of standing? So...no, he hasn't had every opportunity and now we are starting to see that he was right about everything, including the 4am fraudulent spike in votes. You lefties love to count those votes until you win, but we saw the playbook and it won't happen again. Donald Trump is our President again, for good and for ill, and you only have one hope of that ending anytime soon. So shave that head and go scream at the sky like the rest of your ilk, we'll be here to toss another log on the fire when you tucker out.
What proof has been presented that the "4AM spike in votes" was indeed fraudulent?

This is the reason they wanted the ability to block anyone from reading congressional emails. That clause was labeled the Liz Chaney inclusion.
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(This post was last modified: 12-21-2024, 12:24 PM by mikesez. Edited 1 time in total.)

(12-21-2024, 09:54 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(12-19-2024, 02:21 PM)TDOSS Wrote: You know this based on what evidence?

Trump couldn't produce it in any of the dozens of court cases on this. So you must know something he doesn't. Interesting! I am all ears!

Trump has had every opportunity in the world to prove that the 2020 election was indeed stolen.


Guess what he has yet to do.

And how many of those cases weren't heard for lack of standing? So...no, he hasn't had every opportunity and now we are starting to see that he was right about everything, including the 4am fraudulent spike in votes. You lefties love to count those votes until you win, but we saw the playbook and it won't happen again. Donald Trump is our President again, for good and for ill, and you only have one hope of that ending anytime soon. So shave that head and go scream at the sky like the rest of your ilk, we'll be here to toss another log on the fire when you tucker out.

You tell us.
Most of them were thrown out for lack of evidence.  They didn't reach the standing issue.  And if they were suing on behalf of the Trump campaign, they would have had standing.
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Report: New Revelation About Ashli Babbitt's Killer - Was on Secret DC Blacklist

The bombshells keep getting worse for Michael Byrd, the U.S. Capitol Police officer who shot and killed Ashli Babbitt during the Jan. 6, 2021, Capitol incursion.

After Just the News reported that Byrd had a lengthy disciplinary sheet and numerous dings on his permanent record during his time with the Capitol Police in November, two separate sources reported in December that Byrd, among other things, was on a so-called “Brady list” or “Lewis list” of officers who could not or would not be called to testify by prosecutors because of their untrustworthiness.

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(12-21-2024, 10:41 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(12-21-2024, 09:54 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: And how many of those cases weren't heard for lack of standing? So...no, he hasn't had every opportunity and now we are starting to see that he was right about everything, including the 4am fraudulent spike in votes. You lefties love to count those votes until you win, but we saw the playbook and it won't happen again. Donald Trump is our President again, for good and for ill, and you only have one hope of that ending anytime soon. So shave that head and go scream at the sky like the rest of your ilk, we'll be here to toss another log on the fire when you tucker out.

You tell us.
Most of them were thrown out for lack of evidence.  They didn't reach the standing issue.  And if they were suing on behalf of the Trump campaign, they would have had standing.

Awww,, there you go again.
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(12-22-2024, 02:20 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(12-21-2024, 10:41 AM)mikesez Wrote: You tell us.
Most of them were thrown out for lack of evidence.  They didn't reach the standing issue.  And if they were suing on behalf of the Trump campaign, they would have had standing.

Awww,, there you go again.

Show me a case that was around for standing Tell me the lawyer who filed it and the venue they filed it in. 
Again, I am saying "didn't happen".
No one can prove it didn't happen, except when we give you the opportunity to prove it did and you fail to do so.
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(12-22-2024, 02:20 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(12-21-2024, 10:41 AM)mikesez Wrote: You tell us.
Most of them were thrown out for lack of evidence.  They didn't reach the standing issue.  And if they were suing on behalf of the Trump campaign, they would have had standing.

Awww,, there you go again.

So you haven't told me yet:

What proof has been presented that the "4AM spike in votes" was indeed fraudulent?

Don't pretend you didn't see the reply.
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(12-22-2024, 09:29 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(12-22-2024, 02:20 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: Awww,, there you go again.

So you haven't told me yet:

What proof has been presented that the "4AM spike in votes" was indeed fraudulent?

Don't pretend you didn't see the reply.

Sure Jan. Those kinds of late night jumps happening simultaneously in two different swing states are perfectly rational in an election where Biden got 20 million more votes than any other Dem candidate in the last 4 elections then immediately fell back to the norm last month. Sure, sure...whatever. Bunch'a gullible [BLEEP] you are.

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(12-22-2024, 10:42 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(12-22-2024, 09:29 PM)TDOSS Wrote: So you haven't told me yet:

What proof has been presented that the "4AM spike in votes" was indeed fraudulent?

Don't pretend you didn't see the reply.

Sure Jan. Those kinds of late night jumps happening simultaneously in two different swing states are perfectly rational in an election where Biden got 20 million more votes than any other Dem candidate in the last 4 elections then immediately fell back to the norm last month. Sure, sure...whatever. Bunch'a gullible [BLEEP] you are.

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