He’s so good. Probably would have had around 200 yards if it weren’t for the Jones brothers (Mac and Tim) being absolute cheeks.

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https://twitter.com/HuntMlk/status/1870993812983816508
https://twitter.com/Underdog__NFL/status...3695044785

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BTJ is a TD maker. He led the nation in college and that has carried over to the pros'

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We're gonna waste a potential great WR. You know why, right? We all know why

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#because Khan  


anyways welcome to Loserville BTJ,sorry you have to play with a bunch of losers, without a Franchise qb.  Hopefully the losing in Loserville doesn't rub off on you btj like it has other players here except for the kicker  cook,and wingard.

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snowwolf titans owner in madden.

note titans owner means im undeafted againest them. 

A star in an otherwise cloudy sky

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So just wondering. Is there any chance that BTJ goes full Blackmon, gets a drug suspension from the league and basically quits football? I know that Blackmon had red flags that were ignored. I haven't heard anything about BTJ, but seeing if anyone has heard anything.

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So just wondering. Is there any chance that BTJ goes full Blackmon, gets a drug suspension from the league and basically quits football? I know that Blackmon had red flags that were ignored. I haven't heard anything about BTJ, but seeing if anyone has heard anything.

No. I think he's just your modern day LSU WR phenom and he'll probably be here for a long time. He's certainly somebody you can build your offense around and they really do need to get it together in 2025. His speed is something you cannot teach.

If we actually had a running game here to where we could sell a believable play action element to this offense he would do even more damage to secondaries. We'll see what happens. I can tell you, that, if they opted to go after Ben Johnson, Joe Brady or Kellen Moore as our next HC/OC?

He's probably going to be on par with JJ and Chase for #1 WR talks in the NFL. We still need to add onto the WR room though. Restrepo out of Miami, Harris out of Ole' Miss or Higgins out of Iowa State. One of those three needs to be a Jaguar in 2025 via the draft.

Depending on the GM/HC change? It would even more interesting if they fixed a lot of our defensive issues via free agency and decided to play Hunter at WR or draft McMillan at WR out of Arizona.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

So just wondering. Is there any chance that BTJ goes full Blackmon, gets a drug suspension from the league and basically quits football? I know that Blackmon had red flags that were ignored. I haven't heard anything about BTJ, but seeing if anyone has heard anything.

No. I think he's just your modern day LSU WR phenom and he'll probably be here for a long time. He's certainly somebody you can build your offense around and they really do need to get it together in 2025. His speed is something you cannot teach.

If we actually had a running game here to where we could sell a believable play action element to this offense he would do even more damage to secondaries. We'll see what happens. I can tell you, that, if they opted to go after Ben Johnson, Joe Brady or Kellen Moore as our next HC/OC?

He's probably going to be on par with JJ and Chase for #1 WR talks in the NFL. We still need to add onto the WR room though. Restrepo out of Miami, Harris out of Ole' Miss or Higgins out of Iowa State. One of those three needs to be a Jaguar in 2025 via the draft.

Depending on the GM/HC change? It would even more interesting if they fixed a lot of our defensive issues via free agency and decided to play Hunter at WR or draft McMillan at WR out of Arizona.

Do you think WR is that high of a need for 2025? Given Strange, Washington and Bigsby showing growth and improvement, probably not cutting/trading ETN or Engram this off season, I figured a base 12 personnel may work best for this team going forward. Basically using Engram as better blocking slot WR.

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We have to get some talent on free agency to plug major holes. There are not enough high draft picks to draft interior line on both sides of the ball, wr, and corner.

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However, having a true number 1 wr, a solid pass catching TE, and an above average QB (not elite, sure) is somewhere to start with the turn around.

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No. I think he's just your modern day LSU WR phenom and he'll probably be here for a long time. He's certainly somebody you can build your offense around and they really do need to get it together in 2025. His speed is something you cannot teach.

If we actually had a running game here to where we could sell a believable play action element to this offense he would do even more damage to secondaries. We'll see what happens. I can tell you, that, if they opted to go after Ben Johnson, Joe Brady or Kellen Moore as our next HC/OC?

He's probably going to be on par with JJ and Chase for #1 WR talks in the NFL. We still need to add onto the WR room though. Restrepo out of Miami, Harris out of Ole' Miss or Higgins out of Iowa State. One of those three needs to be a Jaguar in 2025 via the draft.

Depending on the GM/HC change? It would even more interesting if they fixed a lot of our defensive issues via free agency and decided to play Hunter at WR or draft McMillan at WR out of Arizona.

Do you think WR is that high of a need for 2025? Given Strange, Washington and Bigsby showing growth and improvement, probably not cutting/trading ETN or Engram this off season, I figured a base 12 personnel may work best for this team going forward. Basically using Engram as better blocking slot WR.

It depends. I think this offense has honestly missed WR's like Marvin Jones, Zay Jones (When healthy) and now recently Kirk over the past two years. There's a noticeable dip in overall production and output. 

While Washington has shown promise, they still need to add another WR in my opinion. It may not be a MASSIVE need, but, it's a need I think you have to consider in RD3, RD4.

I am not sure about Engram and Kirk being here in 2025. Same for Etienne. I think you could see all three of them likely gone between cap saving cuts and potential trades being made.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

No. I think he's just your modern day LSU WR phenom and he'll probably be here for a long time. He's certainly somebody you can build your offense around and they really do need to get it together in 2025. His speed is something you cannot teach.

If we actually had a running game here to where we could sell a believable play action element to this offense he would do even more damage to secondaries. We'll see what happens. I can tell you, that, if they opted to go after Ben Johnson, Joe Brady or Kellen Moore as our next HC/OC?

He's probably going to be on par with JJ and Chase for #1 WR talks in the NFL. We still need to add onto the WR room though. Restrepo out of Miami, Harris out of Ole' Miss or Higgins out of Iowa State. One of those three needs to be a Jaguar in 2025 via the draft.

Depending on the GM/HC change? It would even more interesting if they fixed a lot of our defensive issues via free agency and decided to play Hunter at WR or draft McMillan at WR out of Arizona.

Do you think WR is that high of a need for 2025? Given Strange, Washington and Bigsby showing growth and improvement, probably not cutting/trading ETN or Engram this off season, I figured a base 12 personnel may work best for this team going forward. Basically using Engram as better blocking slot WR.

The team has the skill players. I really don't think the Lions' skill players are that much better as a whole than the Jaguars with a healthy Trevor. The difference is their O-line is elite and a big reason why they're 13-2.  

The draft, no matter who's running it, should be all O-line and BAP on defense.

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"I am only an average man, but by George, I work harder at it than the average man." - Teddy Roosevelt

Do you think WR is that high of a need for 2025? Given Strange, Washington and Bigsby showing growth and improvement, probably not cutting/trading ETN or Engram this off season, I figured a base 12 personnel may work best for this team going forward. Basically using Engram as better blocking slot WR.

It depends. I think this offense has honestly missed WR's like Marvin Jones, Zay Jones (When healthy) and now recently Kirk over the past two years. There's a noticeable dip in overall production and output. 

While Washington has shown promise, they still need to add another WR in my opinion. It may not be a MASSIVE need, but, it's a need I think you have to consider in RD3, RD4.

I am not sure about Engram and Kirk being here in 2025. Same for Etienne. I think you could see all three of them likely gone between cap saving cuts and potential trades being made.

Next year's WR group will be BTj, Kirk, Washington, and Davis IMO. I could see them using a Post 6/1 on Kirk to spread out his dead cap, but if we have a new regime they might want the veteran presence. If it's the current guys I just don't know, but his cap number isn't really any higher next year than it was this year.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Do you think WR is that high of a need for 2025? Given Strange, Washington and Bigsby showing growth and improvement, probably not cutting/trading ETN or Engram this off season, I figured a base 12 personnel may work best for this team going forward. Basically using Engram as better blocking slot WR.

The team has the skill players. I really don't think the Lions' skill players are that much better as a whole than the Jaguars with a healthy Trevor. The difference is their O-line is elite and a big reason why they're 13-2.  

The draft, no matter who's running it, should be all O-line and BAP on defense.

The Lions have an identity. That's what drives them. They want to be physical, they like to run the football, they have a nice 1-2 punch and they have Ben Johnson.

Ben is creative. You go back to last year and look at some of the play designs and concepts and ideas he comes up with. They had a wild TE play design last year that got them a big win over somebody. 

They had a funny play design yesterday where they had Goff deliberately fake a fumble that led to a TD. Ben even dared to ask Goff to really sell it by putting the ball on the ground somehow and to scoop it up quickly. 

He also had a philly special play to Goff at some point.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Do you think WR is that high of a need for 2025? Given Strange, Washington and Bigsby showing growth and improvement, probably not cutting/trading ETN or Engram this off season, I figured a base 12 personnel may work best for this team going forward. Basically using Engram as better blocking slot WR.

The team has the skill players. I really don't think the Lions' skill players are that much better as a whole than the Jaguars with a healthy Trevor. The difference is their O-line is elite and a big reason why they're 13-2.  

The draft, no matter who's running it, should be all O-line and BAP on defense.

It would be nice in Madden, but that's the attitude that brought the Jaguars so many years of losing.

Forget about positions and draft for ability. If the clearly best player left when we're on the clock is wr and the Jaguars can't find a trade partner then the team has to take those players. We have to stop being the team taking bad players and leaving guys like AJ Brown to join our opponents and kick our [BLEEP] for years.

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It depends. I think this offense has honestly missed WR's like Marvin Jones, Zay Jones (When healthy) and now recently Kirk over the past two years. There's a noticeable dip in overall production and output. 

While Washington has shown promise, they still need to add another WR in my opinion. It may not be a MASSIVE need, but, it's a need I think you have to consider in RD3, RD4.

I am not sure about Engram and Kirk being here in 2025. Same for Etienne. I think you could see all three of them likely gone between cap saving cuts and potential trades being made.

Next year's WR group will be BTj, Kirk, Washington, and Davis IMO. I could see them using a Post 6/1 on Kirk to spread out his dead cap, but if we have a new regime they might want the veteran presence. If it's the current guys I just don't know, but his cap number isn't really any higher next year than it was this year.

Davis was so terrible this year I completely forgot about him in my initial post. Fair point about the veteran presence if a new staff comes in. I still hope to see them target at least one WR from next year's class. It's a pretty decent class and roughly 4 - 5 rounds deep in my opinion.

If they can't land Restrepo, Harris or Higgins. They should target guys like Kobe Hudson out of UCF, Pat Bryant out of Illinois and Tory Horton out of Colorado.

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

We have to be able to run the ball a yard. Without that, it’s hard to keep drives going, throw deep, and win games. Whatever gets us that is pretty much essential to having a shot at a better 2025.

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So just wondering. Is there any chance that BTJ goes full Blackmon, gets a drug suspension from the league and basically quits football? I know that Blackmon had red flags that were ignored. I haven't heard anything about BTJ, but seeing if anyone has heard anything.

Blackmon had several very publicly known issues from college. He was not even on the draft board for half the teams on draft day. This situation is nothing like Blackmon, and I really liked Blackmon...

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Davis still suffering from a sore labia

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Forget about this rookie stuff.  Just look how he compares to other NFL receivers.  He's currently 6th in receiving yards and only 1 yard behind the player in 5th place.  He's also in a 5th place tie for receiving TD's.

If you just look at the AFC, he is 2nd in receiving yards and tied for 2nd in receiving TD's.

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