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*** Official Jags Vs tittiians Game Thread ***


(12-29-2024, 03:22 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: Dougy P looking giddy... probably about to shoot a text to Khan to check the score

A 4-2 division record plus at least 1 one of those losses were given away may warrant another year.
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(12-29-2024, 03:21 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 03:17 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: I disagree, I don't think 32 GMs would. I don't think 32 GMs would say you would have a better chance of improving their record if picking 3rd or 7th or 8th, if any GM would say that.  Some teams pick 32nd have better drafts than the team picking 1st.  It's all about the GM.

You make a good point. The good teams constantly draft near the bottom but remain good teams. Look at the Rams who barely has had any draft picks the last few years and they are the 3 seed right now.

Actually...it's all about the coach and the QB.   The Rams have a great head coach, and their QB is one of the better throwers of the football in the league.   The coach designs plays for their best players.

Yes, they draft well...but the coach and the QB are why the Rams are a 3 seed.   Puka is used correctly.
The Other Jag Forum: Duval Football Fans.

Brandon Scherff is no longer that dude.   Next season I want him gone.

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(12-29-2024, 03:22 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 02:28 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Winning this game will have zero affect on if we win next year or not.

(12-29-2024, 03:21 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: biggest halftime lead of the year

Franchise QB?

Like who?  You want to trade Trevor and draft Sanders? Lol

(12-29-2024, 03:24 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 03:21 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote: You make a good point. The good teams constantly draft near the bottom but remain good teams. Look at the Rams who barely has had any draft picks the last few years and they are the 3 seed right now.

Actually...it's all about the coach and the QB.   The Rams have a great head coach, and their QB is one of the better throwers of the football in the league.   The coach designs plays for their best players.

Yes, they draft well...but the coach and the QB are why the Rams are a 3 seed.   Puka is used correctly.

Who do you think brought in the coach and the QB?
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(12-29-2024, 03:24 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 03:22 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: Dougy P looking giddy... probably about to shoot a text to Khan to check the score

A 4-2 division record plus at least 1 one of those losses were given away may warrant another year.

That should only matter if this were the NFC North or the AFC North.   Otherwise, being the second best in arguably the worst division in history shouldn't matter much.
The Other Jag Forum: Duval Football Fans.

Brandon Scherff is no longer that dude.   Next season I want him gone.

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(12-29-2024, 03:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 03:22 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: Franchise QB?

Like who?  You want to trade Trevor and draft Sanders? Lol

That would be a fun summer until reality sets in when Sanders won't report at camp.
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(12-29-2024, 03:26 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 03:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Like who?  You want to trade Trevor and draft Sanders? Lol

That would be a fun summer until reality sets in when Sanders won't report at camp.

That's the crazy part of the whole tanking debate. Some want us to tank for a high draft pick and use it on a QB!!
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(12-29-2024, 03:01 PM)SeldomRite Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 02:56 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote: That's just false.  It's illogical to believe that owning the 7th overall pick is just as good as the 3rd overall pick.  If nothing else, you can trade down from the 3rd pick to the 7th pick and acquire additional picks.  If you don't think having additional draft picks is an advantage in the NFL, I don't know what to say.  That's just common sense.

Also keep in mind that it affects next year's schedule.  If we win, instead of playing Chicago (4-12) and Cleveland (3-12), we will play Green Bay (11-4) and Cincinnati (8-8).  You don't think one pair of teams is a little tougher than the other?

If you want to get back to the playoffs as soon as possible, a loss today helps our odds.  That's just reality.

A lot of people seem to have trouble understanding that winning teams and eliminated teams aren't playing for the same thing.

The players on the field may still think winning is what they should be playing for, but from an organizational standpoint losing and draft position should be the objective when a team isn't in contention for postseason.

Yeah, it's amazing that some people can't understand.  Oh well.  As they say, you can't argue with stupid.
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(12-29-2024, 03:28 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 03:26 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: That would be a fun summer until reality sets in when Sanders won't report at camp.

That's the crazy part of the whole tanking debate. Some want us to tank for a high draft pick and use it on a QB!!

Yeah, but I don't understand that. We've invested so much money in Trevor that he needs to be QB1 next year. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks anymore. Find other pieces...
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(12-29-2024, 03:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 03:22 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: Franchise QB?

Like who?  You want to trade Trevor and draft Sanders? Lol

(12-29-2024, 03:24 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote: Actually...it's all about the coach and the QB.   The Rams have a great head coach, and their QB is one of the better throwers of the football in the league.   The coach designs plays for their best players.

Yes, they draft well...but the coach and the QB are why the Rams are a 3 seed.   Puka is used correctly.

Who do you think brought in the coach and the QB?

I was talking about Mac Jones who got the largest halftime lead of the season.
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Boselli just nailed it.

Our defense isn't good today. The Titans offense is just that bad.
The Other Jag Forum: Duval Football Fans.

Brandon Scherff is no longer that dude.   Next season I want him gone.

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(12-29-2024, 03:31 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 03:28 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: That's the crazy part of the whole tanking debate. Some want us to tank for a high draft pick and use it on a QB!!

Yeah, but I don't understand that. We've invested so much money in Trevor that he needs to be QB1 next year. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks anymore. Find other pieces...

Let's face it, we're not really tanking. This isn't a team in a rebuild year, we're just a bad team this year. We have so many areas to improve on the roster and a high draft pick is what you use that on. Saves you overpaying in FA and gives you a player in that position to improve for the next 3-4 years. 

Spending it on a position the franchise has already heavily invested in would be an incredibly dumb move.
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(12-29-2024, 03:31 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 03:28 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: That's the crazy part of the whole tanking debate. Some want us to tank for a high draft pick and use it on a QB!!

Yeah, but I don't understand that. We've invested so much money in Trevor that he needs to be QB1 next year. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks anymore. Find other pieces...

But more than half the board have declared Trevor as a Just A Guy. Shouldn't Jax deserve better?
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(12-29-2024, 02:56 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 02:28 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Winning this game will have zero affect on if we win next year or not.

That's just false.  It's illogical to believe that owning the 7th overall pick is just as good as the 3rd overall pick.  If nothing else, you can trade down from the 3rd pick to the 7th pick and acquire additional picks.  If you don't think having additional draft picks is an advantage in the NFL, I don't know what to say.  That's just common sense.

Also keep in mind that it affects next year's schedule.  If we win, instead of playing Chicago (4-12) and Cleveland (3-12), we will play Green Bay (11-4) and Cincinnati (8-8).  You don't think one pair of teams is a little tougher than the other?

If you want to get back to the playoffs as soon as possible, a loss today helps our odds.  That's just reality.

It's also illogical to believe the 3rd pick will have compensatory benefits the 7th doesn't when the final draft order and what prospect is/isn't available is not established. It's illogical to believe that playing one set of teams will be easier than playing the other set when it's nearly a year before those games will be played. Due to these factors you believe a loss today helps our odds return to the playoffs ASAP, that belief is, as a belief, assumptive and not logical. Therefore, it is not based in reality.

You ain't the Duke of [BLEEP], you ain't 007, you aint logical- you're a SAWFTIE clinging to his beliefs
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(12-29-2024, 03:36 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 03:31 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: Yeah, but I don't understand that. We've invested so much money in Trevor that he needs to be QB1 next year. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks anymore. Find other pieces...

But more than half the board have declared Trevor as a Just A Guy. Shouldn't Jax deserve better?

Flsprtsgod is our agent of chaos round here.

Don't need you stirring things up too!!
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(12-29-2024, 03:34 PM)AnOldBrownie Wrote: Boselli just nailed it.

Our defense isn't good today.  The Titans offense is just that bad.

Or Nielsen has turned a corner.
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That's a double dribble

Never gets called anymore
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(12-29-2024, 03:28 PM)JagFan81 Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 03:26 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: That would be a fun summer until reality sets in when Sanders won't report at camp.

That's the crazy part of the whole tanking debate. Some want us to tank for a high draft pick and use it on a QB!!

For the record, I agree that's crazy.  There's virtually no chance we use our first rounder on a quarterback.
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(12-29-2024, 03:36 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 03:31 PM)CanDoBetter Wrote: Yeah, but I don't understand that. We've invested so much money in Trevor that he needs to be QB1 next year. It doesn't matter what anyone thinks anymore. Find other pieces...

But more than half the board have declared Trevor as a Just A Guy. Shouldn't Jax deserve better?

It doesn't matter. Paying Trevor means he's around for a while.
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This is the Jags defense I'm use to.
The Other Jag Forum: Duval Football Fans.

Brandon Scherff is no longer that dude.   Next season I want him gone.

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(12-29-2024, 03:40 PM)TheDuke007 Wrote:
(12-29-2024, 03:28 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: That's the crazy part of the whole tanking debate. Some want us to tank for a high draft pick and use it on a QB!!

For the record, I agree that's crazy.  There's virtually no chance we use our first rounder on a quarterback.

Oh I'm not saying your one of them. It's all good.

Got way more areas to fix than QB.
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