I just do not think Trevor is anywhere near as good as some of you think he is.  I feel bamboozled by all the hype and success he had at lower levels.  I already stated this team would be a playoff caliber team if we had just a good QB not even an elite one this year.  This division is awful and should of been a slam dunk to win it. Right now the team has a contact that makes us tied to him.  My only hope is we get a Coordinator in here that can really work with him and fix his game.  Doug was suppose to be a Qb whisperer so i do no know if he can be fixed.  Right now all we can do is put on the seat belt and get ready for the ride.   I am not alone with my view of Trevor Lawrence. Most of the NFL's talking heads would not call Lawrence good let alone elite.  The only thing that will shut me up is his play on the field and  he starts playing like the #1 pick.  Some will just make excuses no matter how bad his play is.   There is no point of keep discussing it because nothing is going to change until the next season.

The crazy thing is this thread started by what the Jaguar Great Leon Searcy said and naturally the Trevor Lawrence defense force hopped down my throat.  I would trust Searcy's opinion who played in the NFL at a high level than anyone's on this message board.

Whaaaaaaaat?  I want some of what you’re smoking.

The funny thing is that because ONE former Jaguar satisfies your opinion that no other former players opinions matter.  You’re ridiculous.

That one line alone pretty much sums up and tells you everything you need to know about his "opinions" lololol.

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Whaaaaaaaat?  I want some of what you’re smoking.

The funny thing is that because ONE former Jaguar satisfies your opinion that no other former players opinions matter.  You’re ridiculous.

That one line alone pretty much sums up and tells you everything you need to know about his "opinions" lololol.

Facts, I mean, I am not saying Trevor is anywhere near Burrow's level but Burrow is a top 3 QB in the league and still couldn't overcome his defense issues. Team game.

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And our defense was way worse than Cin. There was a chart I saw where we were like - 900 or something and next closest team was like - 400

Crazy stats. Don't know what it means but shows how bad Nielsen was.

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And our defense was way worse than Cin.  There was a chart I saw where we were like - 900 or something and next closest team was like - 400

Crazy stats. Don't know what it means but shows how bad Nielsen was.

Haven't you been paying attention? It means Trevor sucks.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Trevor gets blame when the blame is due. Yes, he misses a throw. When he hits a dude in the hands and it ends up on the turf, that's not him, no matter how badly you want it to be.

He's been guilty of playing hero ball and taking bad shots. He's missed open guys. But far too often there are other factors that are contributing. Either we're scrambling to make up a ten-point spot that we gave the other team by starting out miserably, or he's running for his life because the center missed a block, or it's 3rd and 14 because of a dumb penalty or a pair of crap run calls beforehand.

When ETN is in the open field and the DB punches the ball out, it's not like there are a lot of other factors influencing the outcome. When ETN gets stuffed behind the line, how often do you hear us criticizing ETN for not changing his course, or reacting to the blown block?
When Lloyd is struggling to cover a slot receiver, we're probably calling out the coach who schemed him into that hole. If he bites on a fake, again, that's solely him and his coaches prepping him for that fake (or not prepping).
When Cisco is out of position, yeah, either he's failed, the coach failed, or the rest of the team failed to account for his error and back him up.

You make it like Trevor is Bort, bouncing passes off of players' cleats, or Gabbert wilting the moment he hears a DE's breath. We call Trevor out plenty when he brainfarts a play. But some here are predisposed to think that the QB is operating on an island, and that all of the bad is a direct result of his inability. There's plenty of context. He's not perfect, and not one on this board would say he is. But if you can't see that every bit of his game is an uphill climb against poor coaching, poor blocking, broke down receivers, well, good luck finding anyone else who can do any better in that situation.

I just do not think Trevor is anywhere near as good as some of you think he is.  I feel bamboozled by all the hype and success he had at lower levels.  I already stated this team would be a playoff caliber team if we had just a good QB not even an elite one this year.  This division is awful and should of been a slam dunk to win it. Right now the team has a contact that makes us tied to him.  My only hope is we get a Coordinator in here that can really work with him and fix his game.  Doug was suppose to be a Qb whisperer so i do no know if he can be fixed.  Right now all we can do is put on the seat belt and get ready for the ride.   I am not alone with my view of Trevor Lawrence. Most of the NFL's talking heads would not call Lawrence good let alone elite.  The only thing that will shut me up is his play on the field and  he starts playing like the #1 pick.  Some will just make excuses no matter how bad his play is.   There is no point of keep discussing it because nothing is going to change until the next season.

The crazy thing is this thread started by what the Jaguar Great Leon Searcy said and naturally the Trevor Lawrence defense force hopped down my throat.  I would trust Searcy's opinion who played in the NFL at a high level than anyone's on this message board.

?!?!?!

I think you're right, the division WAS awful and we missed a golden opportunity to take advantage. How many games did we start out down 2 scores before we even crossed midfield? How many times did we call boneheaded plays at the absolute worst times? How many times did the D force a turnover and put us in prime position to shift momentum our way?

There's a reason the coach got fired. Shad realized the exact same thing you did, and there's no explaining why we did the miserable things we did when we did them. The team failed to use the talent we had in a way to capitalize on a weak division. We repeatedly put our team in position to fail and had no answer when teams found ways to whoop our hides.

Kyler Murray is a #1 pick. Bryce Young is a #1 pick. Maybe you are expecting too much of one person? Do you think Mahomes would thrive in what we purported to be an offense last season? Burrow? who?

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I just do not think Trevor is anywhere near as good as some of you think he is.  I feel bamboozled by all the hype and success he had at lower levels.  I already stated this team would be a playoff caliber team if we had just a good QB not even an elite one this year.  This division is awful and should of been a slam dunk to win it. Right now the team has a contact that makes us tied to him.  My only hope is we get a Coordinator in here that can really work with him and fix his game.  Doug was suppose to be a Qb whisperer so i do no know if he can be fixed.  Right now all we can do is put on the seat belt and get ready for the ride.   I am not alone with my view of Trevor Lawrence. Most of the NFL's talking heads would not call Lawrence good let alone elite.  The only thing that will shut me up is his play on the field and  he starts playing like the #1 pick.  Some will just make excuses no matter how bad his play is.   There is no point of keep discussing it because nothing is going to change until the next season.

The crazy thing is this thread started by what the Jaguar Great Leon Searcy said and naturally the Trevor Lawrence defense force hopped down my throat.  I would trust Searcy's opinion who played in the NFL at a high level than anyone's on this message board.

?!?!?!

I think you're right, the division WAS awful and we missed a golden opportunity to take advantage. How many games did we start out down 2 scores before we even crossed midfield? How many times did we call boneheaded plays at the absolute worst times? How many times did the D force a turnover and put us in prime position to shift momentum our way?

There's a reason the coach got fired. Shad realized the exact same thing you did, and there's no explaining why we did the miserable things we did when we did them. The team failed to use the talent we had in a way to capitalize on a weak division. We repeatedly put our team in position to fail and had no answer when teams found ways to whoop our hides.

Kyler Murray is a #1 pick. Bryce Young is a #1 pick. Maybe you are expecting too much of one person? Do you think Mahomes would thrive in what we purported to be an offense last season? Burrow? who?

Williams and Daniels show us this year a perfect example of how the situation you’re dropped into is just as important to, if not more important then the QBs raw talent and potential. 

Trevor got dropped into Urban. Arguably worst then what Williams was too. So a whole year wasted. Add in the dysfunction after 2022 plus the injuries, and a front office that literally would not go heavy on the big guys….yikes

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I just do not think Trevor is anywhere near as good as some of you think he is.  I feel bamboozled by all the hype and success he had at lower levels.  I already stated this team would be a playoff caliber team if we had just a good QB not even an elite one this year.  This division is awful and should of been a slam dunk to win it. Right now the team has a contact that makes us tied to him.  My only hope is we get a Coordinator in here that can really work with him and fix his game.  Doug was suppose to be a Qb whisperer so i do no know if he can be fixed.  Right now all we can do is put on the seat belt and get ready for the ride.   I am not alone with my view of Trevor Lawrence. Most of the NFL's talking heads would not call Lawrence good let alone elite.  The only thing that will shut me up is his play on the field and  he starts playing like the #1 pick.  Some will just make excuses no matter how bad his play is.   There is no point of keep discussing it because nothing is going to change until the next season.

The crazy thing is this thread started by what the Jaguar Great Leon Searcy said and naturally the Trevor Lawrence defense force hopped down my throat.  I would trust Searcy's opinion who played in the NFL at a high level than anyone's on this message board.

?!?!?!

I think you're right, the division WAS awful and we missed a golden opportunity to take advantage. How many games did we start out down 2 scores before we even crossed midfield? How many times did we call boneheaded plays at the absolute worst times? How many times did the D force a turnover and put us in prime position to shift momentum our way?

There's a reason the coach got fired. Shad realized the exact same thing you did, and there's no explaining why we did the miserable things we did when we did them. The team failed to use the talent we had in a way to capitalize on a weak division. We repeatedly put our team in position to fail and had no answer when teams found ways to whoop our hides.

Kyler Murray is a #1 pick. Bryce Young is a #1 pick. Maybe you are expecting too much of one person? Do you think Mahomes would thrive in what we purported to be an offense last season? Burrow? who?

The correct answer is that both Mahomes and Burrow would both outperform Lawrence in the Jags 2024 offense, and you can several other names to that list.  If that can't be agreed to, then you've hopelessly driven off a cliff.

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NYC4jags Wrote:
Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

?!?!?!

I think you're right, the division WAS awful and we missed a golden opportunity to take advantage. How many games did we start out down 2 scores before we even crossed midfield? How many times did we call boneheaded plays at the absolute worst times? How many times did the D force a turnover and put us in prime position to shift momentum our way?

There's a reason the coach got fired. Shad realized the exact same thing you did, and there's no explaining why we did the miserable things we did when we did them. The team failed to use the talent we had in a way to capitalize on a weak division. We repeatedly put our team in position to fail and had no answer when teams found ways to whoop our hides.

Kyler Murray is a #1 pick. Bryce Young is a #1 pick. Maybe you are expecting too much of one person? Do you think Mahomes would thrive in what we purported to be an offense last season? Burrow? who?

The correct answer is that both Mahomes and Burrow would both outperform Lawrence in the Jags 2024 offense, and you can several other names to that list.  If that can't be agreed to, then you've hopelessly driven off a cliff.

You are preaching the truth but it falls on deaf ears.  I already said that if this team had a decent QB when you factor in how bad this divison was, we would be in the playoffs.

I believe 9 possibly 10 of the top 12 on this list would of had the 2024 Jacksonville Jaguars in the playoffs. This division was absolute garbage.

https://www.nfl.com/news/ranking-each-nf...lar-season

At this point, nobody's mind is being changed.  The Contract insures Lawrence gets at the least another couple of years to see if he can get back to that formm he had For a very short Window.

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The correct answer is that both Mahomes and Burrow would both outperform Lawrence in the Jags 2024 offense, and you can several other names to that list.  If that can't be agreed to, then you've hopelessly driven off a cliff.

You are preaching the truth but it falls on deaf ears.  I already said that if this team had a decent QB when you factor in how bad this divison was, we would be in the playoffs.

I believe 9 possibly 10 of the top 12 on this list would of had the 2024 Jacksonville Jaguars in the playoffs. This division was absolute garbage.

https://www.nfl.com/news/ranking-each-nf...lar-season

At this point, nobody's mind is being changed.  The Contract insures Lawrence gets at the least another couple of years to see if he can get back to that formm he had For a very short Window.

Dude, we're talking about Mahomes and Borrow, not "a decent" QB. It's kinda weird how you've planted your flag on a hill so indefensible that only trolls and fans of other teams will agree with you.  You can say it all you want, repetition doesn't prove it's true.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

The correct answer is that both Mahomes and Burrow would both outperform Lawrence in the Jags 2024 offense, and you can several other names to that list.  If that can't be agreed to, then you've hopelessly driven off a cliff.

You are preaching the truth but it falls on deaf ears.  I already said that if this team had a decent QB when you factor in how bad this divison was, we would be in the playoffs.

I believe 9 possibly 10 of the top 12 on this list would of had the 2024 Jacksonville Jaguars in the playoffs. This division was absolute garbage.

https://www.nfl.com/news/ranking-each-nf...lar-season

At this point, nobody's mind is being changed.  The Contract insures Lawrence gets at the least another couple of years to see if he can get back to that formm he had For a very short Window.

We had the 32nd ranked defense in the league most of the season until the last couple weeks, still finished 2nd to last along with the last ranking passing D.  We had the 25th run offense. Burrow didn't even make the playoffs and he has Chase, and their D was better than ours yet you think any QB would have led this team to the playoffs let alon 9 or 10?  Lol.

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You are preaching the truth but it falls on deaf ears.  I already said that if this team had a decent QB when you factor in how bad this divison was, we would be in the playoffs.

I believe 9 possibly 10 of the top 12 on this list would of had the 2024 Jacksonville Jaguars in the playoffs. This division was absolute garbage.

https://www.nfl.com/news/ranking-each-nf...lar-season

At this point, nobody's mind is being changed.  The Contract insures Lawrence gets at the least another couple of years to see if he can get back to that formm he had For a very short Window.

Dude, we're talking about Mahomes and Borrow, not "a decent" QB. It's kinda weird how you've planted your flag on a hill so indefensible that only trolls and fans of other teams will agree with you.  You can say it all you want, repetition doesn't prove it's true.

Mahomes and Burrow wouldn't have taken this team to the playoffs.  I'd be willing to bet a team that was last in passing D, 31st in overall D, and 25th in rushing has never made the playoffs.  We have much bigger issues than the QB right now

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You are preaching the truth but it falls on deaf ears.  I already said that if this team had a decent QB when you factor in how bad this divison was, we would be in the playoffs.

I believe 9 possibly 10 of the top 12 on this list would of had the 2024 Jacksonville Jaguars in the playoffs. This division was absolute garbage.

https://www.nfl.com/news/ranking-each-nf...lar-season

At this point, nobody's mind is being changed.  The Contract insures Lawrence gets at the least another couple of years to see if he can get back to that formm he had For a very short Window.

We had the 32nd ranked defense in the league most of the season until the last couple weeks, still finished 2nd to last along with the last ranking passing D.  We had the 25th run offense. Burrow didn't even make the playoffs and he has Chase, and their D was better than ours yet you think any QB would have led this team to the playoffs let alon 9 or 10?  Lol.

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Dude, we're talking about Mahomes and Borrow, not "a decent" QB. It's kinda weird how you've planted your flag on a hill so indefensible that only trolls and fans of other teams will agree with you.  You can say it all you want, repetition doesn't prove it's true.

Mahomes and Burrow wouldn't have taken this team to the playoffs.  I'd be willing to bet a team that was last in passing D, 31st in overall D, and 25th in rushing has never made the playoffs.  We have much bigger issues than the QB right now

This statement is counter to the 'We lost so many one-score games' that people are talking about in defense of the Jaguars roster.  It's particularly apt in that Mahomes was on the exact other-side of the 'one-score games' argument having 16 wins in a row.

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NYC4jags Wrote:
Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

You are preaching the truth but it falls on deaf ears.  I already said that if this team had a decent QB when you factor in how bad this divison was, we would be in the playoffs.

I believe 9 possibly 10 of the top 12 on this list would of had the 2024 Jacksonville Jaguars in the playoffs. This division was absolute garbage.

https://www.nfl.com/news/ranking-each-nf...lar-season

At this point, nobody's mind is being changed.  The Contract insures Lawrence gets at the least another couple of years to see if he can get back to that formm he had For a very short Window.

We had the 32nd ranked defense in the league most of the season until the last couple weeks, still finished 2nd to last along with the last ranking passing D.  We had the 25th run offense. Burrow didn't even make the playoffs and he has Chase, and their D was better than ours yet you think any QB would have led this team to the playoffs let alon 9 or 10?  Lol.

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Dude, we're talking about Mahomes and Borrow, not "a decent" QB. It's kinda weird how you've planted your flag on a hill so indefensible that only trolls and fans of other teams will agree with you.  You can say it all you want, repetition doesn't prove it's true.

Mahomes and Burrow wouldn't have taken this team to the playoffs.  I'd be willing to bet a team that was last in passing D, 31st in overall D, and 25th in rushing has never made the playoffs.  We have much bigger issues than the QB right now

Yes because despite that fact we lost about 10 games by one score or less.  Many of their guys, create plays when the game is on the line.  The Defense was bad no doubt but so was the offense.  Are you forgetting the games where the offense kept going 3 and out and the defense stayed on the field for 40 mins a game? Or how about the few times the defense would create a turnover just for the crappy offense to give the ball right back. Both is true is they both stunk so lets not point fingers like one was so much better than the other. This offense with Lawrence was awful at times this season.  I get your narrative it's on everyone else but I disagree.

Put Mahomes or Burrow on any team including the titans this past season and I am betting my bank they win the division. Those Guys are in a complete different League than our guy.

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You are preaching the truth but it falls on deaf ears.  I already said that if this team had a decent QB when you factor in how bad this divison was, we would be in the playoffs.

I believe 9 possibly 10 of the top 12 on this list would of had the 2024 Jacksonville Jaguars in the playoffs. This division was absolute garbage.

https://www.nfl.com/news/ranking-each-nf...lar-season

At this point, nobody's mind is being changed.  The Contract insures Lawrence gets at the least another couple of years to see if he can get back to that formm he had For a very short Window.

Dude, we're talking about Mahomes and Borrow, not "a decent" QB. It's kinda weird how you've planted your flag on a hill so indefensible that only trolls and fans of other teams will agree with you.  You can say it all you want, repetition doesn't prove it's true.

9 out of the top 12 I would bet my bank they make the playoffs if they started for the Jaguars in 2024.

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We had the 32nd ranked defense in the league most of the season until the last couple weeks, still finished 2nd to last along with the last ranking passing D.  We had the 25th run offense. Burrow didn't even make the playoffs and he has Chase, and their D was better than ours yet you think any QB would have led this team to the playoffs let alon 9 or 10?  Lol.

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Mahomes and Burrow wouldn't have taken this team to the playoffs.  I'd be willing to bet a team that was last in passing D, 31st in overall D, and 25th in rushing has never made the playoffs.  We have much bigger issues than the QB right now

Yes because despite that fact we lost about 10 games by one score or less.  Many of their guys, create plays when the game is on the line.  The Defense was bad no doubt but so was the offense.  Are you forgetting the games where the offense kept going 3 and out and the defense stayed on the field for 40 mins a game? Or how about the few times the defense would create a turnover just for the crappy offense to give the ball right back.  Both is true is they both stunk so lets not point fingers like one was so much better than the other. This offense with Lawrence was awful at times this season.  I get your narrative it's on everyone else but I disagree.

Put Mahomes or Burrow on any team including the titans this past season and I am betting my bank they win the division.  Those Guys are in a complete different League than our guy.

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Dude, we're talking about Mahomes and Borrow, not "a decent" QB. It's kinda weird how you've planted your flag on a hill so indefensible that only trolls and fans of other teams will agree with you.  You can say it all you want, repetition doesn't prove it's true.

9 out of the top 12 I would bet my bank they make the playoffs if they started for the Jaguars in 2024.

Well you've already lost that bet considering Burrow wasn't even able to carry his own team to the playoffs, or win the Division this season (or last season)..

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We had the 32nd ranked defense in the league most of the season until the last couple weeks, still finished 2nd to last along with the last ranking passing D.  We had the 25th run offense. Burrow didn't even make the playoffs and he has Chase, and their D was better than ours yet you think any QB would have led this team to the playoffs let alon 9 or 10?  Lol.

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Mahomes and Burrow wouldn't have taken this team to the playoffs.  I'd be willing to bet a team that was last in passing D, 31st in overall D, and 25th in rushing has never made the playoffs.  We have much bigger issues than the QB right now

This statement is counter to the 'We lost so many one-score games' that people are talking about in defense of the Jaguars roster.  It's particularly apt in that Mahomes was on the exact other-side of the 'one-score games' argument having 16 wins in a row.

Now compare the Jags 2024 defense to the chefs and see what you end up blaming for the close loss vs close win disparity

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This statement is counter to the 'We lost so many one-score games' that people are talking about in defense of the Jaguars roster.  It's particularly apt in that Mahomes was on the exact other-side of the 'one-score games' argument having 16 wins in a row.

Now compare the Jags 2024 defense to the chefs and see what you end up blaming for the close loss vs close win disparity

My intention was to say that 'one-score games' line-of-thought doesn't carry much weight with me, not comparing the Jags and the Chiefs or assigning blame.

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NYC4jags Wrote:
Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.

We had the 32nd ranked defense in the league most of the season until the last couple weeks, still finished 2nd to last along with the last ranking passing D.  We had the 25th run offense. Burrow didn't even make the playoffs and he has Chase, and their D was better than ours yet you think any QB would have led this team to the playoffs let alon 9 or 10?  Lol.

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Mahomes and Burrow wouldn't have taken this team to the playoffs.  I'd be willing to bet a team that was last in passing D, 31st in overall D, and 25th in rushing has never made the playoffs.  We have much bigger issues than the QB right now

This statement is counter to the 'We lost so many one-score games' that people are talking about in defense of the Jaguars roster.  It's particularly apt in that Mahomes was on the exact other-side of the 'one-score games' argument having 16 wins in a row.

It's easy to see why they are on the other side.  They have one of the all time great dynasty defenses, they have the best interior oline in the league,.a HOF TE, a decent group of WRs even with the injury juries, the best DC ever, and a HOF coach.  When you upgrade all that you get being on the other side of those games.

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This statement is counter to the 'We lost so many one-score games' that people are talking about in defense of the Jaguars roster.  It's particularly apt in that Mahomes was on the exact other-side of the 'one-score games' argument having 16 wins in a row.

It's easy to see why they are on the other side.  They have one of the all time great dynasty defenses, they have the best interior oline in the league,.a HOF TE, a decent group of WRs even with the injury juries, the best DC ever, and a HOF coach.  When you upgrade all that you get being on the other side of those games.

While I don't agree with all those descriptives, all of those are much better than what the Jags had and they won all those games by less than 1 score. I guess Mahomes sucks.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

We had the 32nd ranked defense in the league most of the season until the last couple weeks, still finished 2nd to last along with the last ranking passing D.  We had the 25th run offense. Burrow didn't even make the playoffs and he has Chase, and their D was better than ours yet you think any QB would have led this team to the playoffs let alon 9 or 10?  Lol.

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Mahomes and Burrow wouldn't have taken this team to the playoffs.  I'd be willing to bet a team that was last in passing D, 31st in overall D, and 25th in rushing has never made the playoffs.  We have much bigger issues than the QB right now

Yes because despite that fact we lost about 10 games by one score or less.  Many of their guys, create plays when the game is on the line.  The Defense was bad no doubt but so was the offense.  Are you forgetting the games where the offense kept going 3 and out and the defense stayed on the field for 40 mins a game? Or how about the few times the defense would create a turnover just for the crappy offense to give the ball right back.  Both is true is they both stunk so lets not point fingers like one was so much better than the other. This offense with Lawrence was awful at times this season.  I get your narrative it's on everyone else but I disagree.

Put Mahomes or Burrow on any team including the titans this past season and I am betting my bank they win the division.  Those Guys are in a complete different League than our guy.

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Dude, we're talking about Mahomes and Borrow, not "a decent" QB. It's kinda weird how you've planted your flag on a hill so indefensible that only trolls and fans of other teams will agree with you.  You can say it all you want, repetition doesn't prove it's true.

9 out of the top 12 I would bet my bank they make the playoffs if they started for the Jaguars in 2024.

Not saying they don't have great QBs but it's much easier to create plays when you have guys like Chase and Higgins. Mahomes has the a top 2 All time TE, the fastest WR ever, traded for Hopkins, now Brown is back, the best interior oline in the league. Remember how bad the Bengals dominated us with a backup QB in Browning? Remember what the Chiefs done in the playoffs when Mahomes went down and Henne came in? It didn't matter because they have great coaching, and great to HOF type players on offense.  

It's crazy you couldn't see how bad this coaching was, Press was a horrendous play caller and Doug scheme is outdated.  The QB wasn't good by any means but Doug and Press did nothing to help the offense. There isnt a QB in this league that would have taken this team to the playoffs.  The Chiefs lost to the Colts last year when they played them, the Texans beat the Bills this year

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You are preaching the truth but it falls on deaf ears.  I already said that if this team had a decent QB when you factor in how bad this divison was, we would be in the playoffs.

I believe 9 possibly 10 of the top 12 on this list would of had the 2024 Jacksonville Jaguars in the playoffs. This division was absolute garbage.

https://www.nfl.com/news/ranking-each-nf...lar-season

At this point, nobody's mind is being changed.  The Contract insures Lawrence gets at the least another couple of years to see if he can get back to that formm he had For a very short Window.

Dude, we're talking about Mahomes and Borrow, not "a decent" QB. It's kinda weird how you've planted your flag on a hill so indefensible that only trolls and fans of other teams will agree with you.  You can say it all you want, repetition doesn't prove it's true.

And it’s funny he claims if we had burrow we’d be in the playoffs. lol. Cincy has literal burrow AND chase and they’re not in. For the same reason as us….questionable coaching; atrocious defense; gaps at essential positions on the lines. List goes on.

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Now compare the Jags 2024 defense to the chefs and see what you end up blaming for the close loss vs close win disparity

My intention was to say that 'one-score games' line-of-thought doesn't carry much weight with me, not comparing the Jags and the Chiefs or assigning blame.

I’m of similar vein. I think our problem is we have a decent roster at the luxury positions. RB, a #1 WR, a franchise TE, good edge rushers. We neglected the essential positions minus QB or completely whiffed is the problem. So that talent is what kept us in it a lot of games, then we shoot ourselves in the foot because of 1. Bad play design 2. Imperfections by said good players (Trevor overthrow, ETN fumbles, WR drops, pass rushers pressuring but not finishing  etc) 3. Coaching incompetence 

To me one score losses will regress to the mean but only if we plug gaps in what should be priority positions minus QB

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