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(This post was last modified: 02-28-2025, 12:39 AM by NewJagsCity. Edited 1 time in total.)

(02-27-2025, 07:56 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-27-2025, 07:40 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: I'm most of the way through Musk's biography now and the tactic he's using with the emails is akin to what he did when he bought Twitter. He knew that a large portion of the Twitter accounts were bots and duplicates, so he started charging a small monthly fee to get verified. It wasn't to make money. It was a validation process to ensure the person behind the account was real because they had to provide a credit card number and an email. 

The layoffs are another tactic from what is described as the "Musk algorithm". The rapid turn arounds at SpaceX and tripling the output of the Tesla factory in Fremont was due to his efforts to streamline the process. His emphasis is on deletion of unnecessary parts, procedures and processes with the mindset that if at least 10% of the deleted factors aren't added back in later, then enough wasn't deleted to begin with. It's a method that has served him well.

Neither of you have your thinking caps on it seems. 
If I am exploiting Twitter, using a bot army, I can probably afford to "verify" a few of those bots if all it takes is a monthly payment.
If I'm a skeezy middle manager at some federal department who has fake people on their payroll and is collecting those checks, I can certainly make time to have my various alter egos reply to emails. 
If Elon's plan is just what you say it is, he's not nearly as brilliant as you seem to think he is.
He's either an average but very hard working intelligence who has gotten very lucky, or something very different is going on below the surface.

(02-27-2025, 08:07 AM)The Drifter Wrote: Can the Biden Crime Family go any lower to enrich themselves?????

DOGE says Texas nonprofit with former Biden transition member reaped millions operating empty facility
As a result of the contract, Family Endeavors’ cash and portfolio of investments jumped from $8.3 million in 2020 to $520 million in 2023

The Department of Health and Human Services has terminated a contract with a nonprofit that was paid millions each month to operate a Texas overflow facility that sat empty, according to the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE).

In a social media post, DOGE said a former U.S. Customs and Immigration Enforcement employee and Biden transition team member joined Family Endeavors in early 2021, where they helped the organization secure a sole-source HHS contract for overflow housing from licensed care facilities.

"As a result, Family Endeavors’ cash and portfolio of investments grew from $8.3M in 2020 to $520.4M in 2023, the post states.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/doge-says-tex...y-facility

Both sides do no-bid contracts. 
The new guy complaining about the old guys no bid contracts is nothing new. Been going on for decades. 
What would be something new, is someone actually getting prosecuted over this kind of thing.

(02-27-2025, 09:34 AM)Jag149 Wrote: Actually it is basic business 101. First thing you do when you are "fixing" a business that is failing is to watch the time clock, monitor login times etc.  I would suspect he has been doing just that.

Lol no.  Absenteeism and short-timing are usually symptoms of a deeper problem.  The balance sheet usually tells the main story.

I think you should forward this advice to Elon. He ll probably appreciate it. Maybe in the same email you can also advise him on how to build a better rocket or electric car, or revive a failing business.
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(02-28-2025, 12:38 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote:
(02-27-2025, 07:56 PM)mikesez Wrote: Neither of you have your thinking caps on it seems. 
If I am exploiting Twitter, using a bot army, I can probably afford to "verify" a few of those bots if all it takes is a monthly payment.
If I'm a skeezy middle manager at some federal department who has fake people on their payroll and is collecting those checks, I can certainly make time to have my various alter egos reply to emails. 
If Elon's plan is just what you say it is, he's not nearly as brilliant as you seem to think he is.
He's either an average but very hard working intelligence who has gotten very lucky, or something very different is going on below the surface.


Both sides do no-bid contracts. 
The new guy complaining about the old guys no bid contracts is nothing new. Been going on for decades. 
What would be something new, is someone actually getting prosecuted over this kind of thing.


Lol no.  Absenteeism and short-timing are usually symptoms of a deeper problem.  The balance sheet usually tells the main story.

I think you should forward this advice to Elon. He ll probably appreciate it. Maybe in the same email you can also advise him on how to build a better rocket or electric car, or revive a failing business.

Just because he's good at one thing doesn't mean he's good at everything.

Twitter is worse off now than it was before.  Their revenue fell by about half after Elon's changes and even though their costs have been cut significantly, they are still not making a profit.
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(02-28-2025, 08:44 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-28-2025, 12:38 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: I think you should forward this advice to Elon. He ll probably appreciate it. Maybe in the same email you can also advise him on how to build a better rocket or electric car, or revive a failing business.

Just because he's good at one thing doesn't mean he's good at everything.

Twitter is worse off now than it was before.  Their revenue fell by about half after Elon's changes and even though their costs have been cut significantly, they are still not making a profit.

And yet the societal benefit of having X be a platform that recognizes free speech is incalculable. Musk and us non-indoctrinated Americans agree that's a perfectly fine trade off, so it makes sense that "Republican" Mikesez doesn't understand.
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(02-28-2025, 08:44 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-28-2025, 12:38 AM)NewJagsCity Wrote: I think you should forward this advice to Elon. He ll probably appreciate it. Maybe in the same email you can also advise him on how to build a better rocket or electric car, or revive a failing business.

Just because he's good at one thing doesn't mean he's good at everything.

Twitter is worse off now than it was before.  Their revenue fell by about half after Elon's changes and even though their costs have been cut significantly, they are still not making a profit.

You know this about a private company? Private companies usually don't let outsiders know this. There are expert's opinions out there but no facts I know of since Twitter as a private company files no public reports. It has dropped in estimated value, but that is just a write off for Musk. You must be in possession of actual information, I had no idea you were that important (or criminal).

Musk is evaluating whether or not the government has too many employees. After what he has seen in the SSI database a prudent person would want to know if all these employees are actually real/living people, have other jobs, just not working. That is NOT to be found on any balance sheet as you implied earlier. Re listen to the cabinet meeting when he was asked that. He gave a pretty good answer.

You said "Just because he's good at one thing doesn't mean he's good at everything."

If I had to choose whether to believe you or Musk at this point I would choose Musk. Not sure about others here, that is just me. Nothing personal....Wink
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(02-28-2025, 09:48 AM)Jag149 Wrote:
(02-28-2025, 08:44 AM)mikesez Wrote: Just because he's good at one thing doesn't mean he's good at everything.

Twitter is worse off now than it was before.  Their revenue fell by about half after Elon's changes and even though their costs have been cut significantly, they are still not making a profit.

You know this about a private company? Private companies usually don't let outsiders know this. There are expert's opinions out there but no facts I know of since Twitter as a private company files no public reports. It has dropped in estimated value, but that is just a write off for Musk. You must be in possession of actual information, I had no idea you were that important (or criminal).

Musk is evaluating whether or not the government has too many employees. After what he has seen in the SSI database a prudent person would want to know if all these employees are actually real/living people, have other jobs, just not working. That is NOT to be found on any balance sheet as you implied earlier. Re listen to the cabinet meeting when he was asked that. He gave a pretty good answer.

You said "Just because he's good at one thing doesn't mean he's good at everything."

If I had to choose whether to believe you or Musk at this point I would choose Musk. Not sure about others here, that is just me. Nothing personal....Wink

Correct. Information about how well government departments are working would not be found on a balance sheet.  Private businesses go off of balance sheets, But government departments are more about duties, and powers, and the satisfaction of the stakeholders and the voters.

(02-28-2025, 09:23 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(02-28-2025, 08:44 AM)mikesez Wrote: Just because he's good at one thing doesn't mean he's good at everything.

Twitter is worse off now than it was before.  Their revenue fell by about half after Elon's changes and even though their costs have been cut significantly, they are still not making a profit.

And yet the societal benefit of having X be a platform that recognizes free speech is incalculable. Musk and us non-indoctrinated Americans agree that's a perfectly fine trade off, so it makes sense that "Republican" Mikesez doesn't understand.

Wait so private companies are supposed to pursue societal benefits? 
I thought we called that ESG and DEI and it was all to be avoided or at the very least completely subsumed to pursuit of the almighty dollar.
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(02-28-2025, 10:37 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-28-2025, 09:48 AM)Jag149 Wrote: You know this about a private company? Private companies usually don't let outsiders know this. There are expert's opinions out there but no facts I know of since Twitter as a private company files no public reports. It has dropped in estimated value, but that is just a write off for Musk. You must be in possession of actual information, I had no idea you were that important (or criminal).

Musk is evaluating whether or not the government has too many employees. After what he has seen in the SSI database a prudent person would want to know if all these employees are actually real/living people, have other jobs, just not working. That is NOT to be found on any balance sheet as you implied earlier. Re listen to the cabinet meeting when he was asked that. He gave a pretty good answer.

You said "Just because he's good at one thing doesn't mean he's good at everything."

If I had to choose whether to believe you or Musk at this point I would choose Musk. Not sure about others here, that is just me. Nothing personal....Wink

Correct. Information about how well government departments are working would not be found on a balance sheet.  Private businesses go off of balance sheets, But government departments are more about duties, and powers, and the satisfaction of the stakeholders and the voters.



Then why on post #178 did you say look at the balance sheet while we are talking about government agencies? Personally, when analyzing labor I prefer the associated income statement (Cost statement with gov as departments are actually cost centers.) I am believing the others now, you really do not understand.
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(02-28-2025, 11:07 AM)Jag149 Wrote:
(02-28-2025, 10:37 AM)mikesez Wrote: Correct. Information about how well government departments are working would not be found on a balance sheet.  Private businesses go off of balance sheets, But government departments are more about duties, and powers, and the satisfaction of the stakeholders and the voters.



Then why on post #178 did you say look at the balance sheet while we are talking about government agencies? Personally, when analyzing labor I prefer the associated income statement (Cost statement with gov as departments are actually cost centers.) I am believing the others now, you really do not understand.

Because in post 177 you said "business".  We were talking about business in that moment.
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(02-28-2025, 10:37 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-28-2025, 09:48 AM)Jag149 Wrote: You know this about a private company? Private companies usually don't let outsiders know this. There are expert's opinions out there but no facts I know of since Twitter as a private company files no public reports. It has dropped in estimated value, but that is just a write off for Musk. You must be in possession of actual information, I had no idea you were that important (or criminal).

Musk is evaluating whether or not the government has too many employees. After what he has seen in the SSI database a prudent person would want to know if all these employees are actually real/living people, have other jobs, just not working. That is NOT to be found on any balance sheet as you implied earlier. Re listen to the cabinet meeting when he was asked that. He gave a pretty good answer.

You said "Just because he's good at one thing doesn't mean he's good at everything."

If I had to choose whether to believe you or Musk at this point I would choose Musk. Not sure about others here, that is just me. Nothing personal....Wink

Correct. Information about how well government departments are working would not be found on a balance sheet.  Private businesses go off of balance sheets, But government departments are more about duties, and powers, and the satisfaction of the stakeholders and the voters.

(02-28-2025, 09:23 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: And yet the societal benefit of having X be a platform that recognizes free speech is incalculable. Musk and us non-indoctrinated Americans agree that's a perfectly fine trade off, so it makes sense that "Republican" Mikesez doesn't understand.

Wait so private companies are supposed to pursue societal benefits? 
I thought we called that ESG and DEI and it was all to be avoided or at the very least completely subsumed to pursuit of the almighty dollar.

Lol. Wisdom chases but damn you're a fast runner.
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(02-28-2025, 02:14 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-28-2025, 11:07 AM)Jag149 Wrote: Then why on post #178 did you say look at the balance sheet while we are talking about government agencies? Personally, when analyzing labor I prefer the associated income statement (Cost statement with gov as departments are actually cost centers.) I am believing the others now, you really do not understand.

Because in post 177 you said "business".  We were talking about business in that moment.

 We were discussing Elon and his approach. Nice try there
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DataRepublican is using artificial intelligence to uncover alleged corruption and waste within the U.S. government. She tells NewsNation's Brian Entin that both Democrats and Republicans are to blame for taxpayer money being wasted or stolen. "If the American people understood completely what we're finding, there would be outrage across the board," she says.

https://youtu.be/ubDZf-xO1JA?si=zmMr51x7zvrq5tzc
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(03-02-2025, 10:55 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: DataRepublican is using artificial intelligence to uncover alleged corruption and waste within the U.S. government. She tells NewsNation's Brian Entin that both Democrats and Republicans are to blame for taxpayer money being wasted or stolen. "If the American people understood completely what we're finding, there would be outrage across the board," she says.

https://youtu.be/ubDZf-xO1JA?si=zmMr51x7zvrq5tzc
Man, I hope she has some eyes in the back of her head. Elon needs to provide her with around the clock security.
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(03-02-2025, 11:25 AM)Jagwired Wrote:
(03-02-2025, 10:55 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: DataRepublican is using artificial intelligence to uncover alleged corruption and waste within the U.S. government. She tells NewsNation's Brian Entin that both Democrats and Republicans are to blame for taxpayer money being wasted or stolen. "If the American people understood completely what we're finding, there would be outrage across the board," she says.

https://youtu.be/ubDZf-xO1JA?si=zmMr51x7zvrq5tzc
Man, I hope she has some eyes in the back of her head. Elon needs to provide her with around the clock security.

This is the point most people are missing. Trump was elected because he partnered with Elon and promised to do this. He tried the first time but was denied by Democratic rage and obstructionism. He was also a inner beltway newbee and made those mistakes. Trump and Elon by their own admissions are like all of us, they are not perfect. Elon in fact said as much at the cabinet meeting. He also said when that happened they would correct it quickly. So just get over it guys/gals you are not perfect either. This is a non partisan event unfolding. It looks partisan only because the Dem's leadership refuses to embrace it and have another agenda the voters do not want.
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This is why we need DOGE and a National Voter ID law.......

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These people would never make it in the private sector......

Federal worker says that DOGE emails asking to report the five accomplishments of the week is harassment
'It's very hard to keep your train of thought when you're getting threatened and harassed like that'

A federal worker described the DOGE emails requiring employees to report their five accomplishments of the week as threatening and harassing.

"It came out wanting us to justify our jobs with five things we did," Cathy, a federal worker, told MSNBC in an interview at a town hall in Haymarket, Virginia last week.

"Last week was on Saturday night, and I was literally working on Saturday night to make up for all the distractions I had had the previous week, which came from the executive branch," Cathy stated. "And so I'm working, trying to catch up on things, and then I get that email on top of it. It's very hard to keep your train of thought when you're getting threatened and harassed like that."

https://www.foxnews.com/media/federal-wo...harassment
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Hey MAGAts, If all this fraud is happening then why has nobody been arrested, yet?
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(03-04-2025, 11:10 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Hey MAGAts, If all this fraud is happening then why has nobody been arrested, yet?

We need to buy you a sit and spin.
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(03-04-2025, 11:13 PM)Jag149 Wrote:
(03-04-2025, 11:10 PM)TDOSS Wrote: Hey MAGAts, If all this fraud is happening then why has nobody been arrested, yet?

We need to buy you a sit and spin.

We need to buy you a lobotomy, MAGA boy.
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(03-04-2025, 11:19 PM)TDOSS Wrote:
(03-04-2025, 11:13 PM)Jag149 Wrote: We need to buy you a sit and spin.

We need to buy you a lobotomy, MAGA boy.

LOL, that is interesting. You need to know personally I don't actually like Trump. What I like are his policies. There are many, many people like me that feel the same way. I know with your closed mind you will have a difficult time understanding that concept but no matter what poop you say that is the way it is.
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(03-04-2025, 11:53 PM)Jag149 Wrote:
(03-04-2025, 11:19 PM)TDOSS Wrote: We need to buy you a lobotomy, MAGA boy.

LOL, that is interesting. You need to know personally I don't actually like Trump. What I like are his policies. There are many, many people like me that feel the same way. I know with your closed mind you will have a difficult time understanding that concept but no matter what poop you say that is the way it is.

Like tariffs? Against allies?

That’s so profoundly stupid.
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(03-05-2025, 07:29 AM)TDOSS Wrote:
(03-04-2025, 11:53 PM)Jag149 Wrote: LOL, that is interesting. You need to know personally I don't actually like Trump. What I like are his policies. There are many, many people like me that feel the same way. I know with your closed mind you will have a difficult time understanding that concept but no matter what poop you say that is the way it is.

Like tariffs? Against allies?

That’s so profoundly stupid.

If it's so stupid why do our "allies" tariff us?
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