You think we need to control Russian aggression while I don't give a [BLEEP] about Russian aggression. Nothing needs to be explained, we have no business being involved. You're the one stuck in a Cold War mindset and your solution is to make it an actual shooting war, one that you noticeably refuse to participate in yourself even when given repeated opportunity to do so. Just accept that you're a little chickenhawk who wants other people's children to die for your beliefs and that because of that not one single thing you say matters.

I get that you don’t care about Russian aggression. Prior to world war 1 and 2 no one cared about German aggression as they rolled smaller countries up either. And each time we ended with a world war. We then ended up with a Cold War with the Soviet Union , the result of Russian aggression . Which also cost American lives ( Vietnam /korea) and had us on the brink of nuclear destruction a number of times.

And now we again face an authoritarian aggressor from Russia. A man who longs to build Russia back to the Cold War era. That thrived during that era. Thats already attacked America with cyber attacks on infrastructure. And they have tried to influence our elections.

We either stop Russian aggression now. Or we face another larger war that might cause the destruction of the world as we know it.

I ask you again as you failed to answer.

Explain in detail how pausing aid to Ukraine and suspending cyber attacks on Russia will send a message to Putin that he should withdraw troops from Russia and seek peace

I'll answer again as you fail to understand basic English. I don't care if Putin withdraws or seeks peace. I don't care if Ukraine loses. I don't care if they parade Zalensky down Khreshchatyk Street in chains and string him up on the banks of the Dnieper. The message is the America isn't the world's piggy bank and it's time they all start paying their own way. The message is that Europe should quit buying Russian energy if they are serious about this minor regional conflict between two equally corrupt governments. That if they want to rally behind the French and go fight Russia they can do it without us. That the children in my neighborhood aren't going to go die for Ukraine. But their foreign legion is taking all comers, so are you packed up for tonight or nah?

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I get that you don’t care about Russian aggression. Prior to world war 1 and 2 no one cared about German aggression as they rolled smaller countries up either. And each time we ended with a world war. We then ended up with a Cold War with the Soviet Union , the result of Russian aggression . Which also cost American lives ( Vietnam /korea) and had us on the brink of nuclear destruction a number of times.

And now we again face an authoritarian aggressor from Russia. A man who longs to build Russia back to the Cold War era. That thrived during that era. Thats already attacked America with cyber attacks on infrastructure. And they have tried to influence our elections.

We either stop Russian aggression now. Or we face another larger war that might cause the destruction of the world as we know it.

I ask you again as you failed to answer.

Explain in detail how pausing aid to Ukraine and suspending cyber attacks on Russia will send a message to Putin that he should withdraw troops from Russia and seek peace

I'll answer again as you fail to understand basic English. I don't care if Putin withdraws or seeks peace. I don't care if Ukraine loses. I don't care if they parade Zalensky down Khreshchatyk Street in chains and string him up on the banks of the Dnieper. The message is the America isn't the world's piggy bank and it's time they all start paying their own way. The message is that Europe should quit buying Russian energy if they are serious about this minor regional conflict between two equally corrupt governments. That if they want to rally behind the French and go fight Russia they can do it without us. That the children in my neighborhood aren't going to go die for Ukraine. But their foreign legion is taking all comers, so are you packed up for tonight or nah?

I get it. You don’t care because you ignore history and today’s reality. So now it’s about money is it?

Ever consider why the us defense budget and us deficit exploded during the eighties and into the 1990,s?

The Cold War cost this nation between 8 and 12 trillion dollars to stay ahead of putins Soviet Union.

And you want to go back to that? Come now.

Stopping Russian aggression now. In Ukraine saves the us money and saves the lives of us military personnel. I will ask again as you failed to answer.

Explain in detail how pausing aid to Ukraine and suspending cyber attacks on Russia will send a message to Putin that he should withdraw troops from Russia and seek peace

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I'll answer again as you fail to understand basic English. I don't care if Putin withdraws or seeks peace. I don't care if Ukraine loses. I don't care if they parade Zalensky down Khreshchatyk Street in chains and string him up on the banks of the Dnieper. The message is the America isn't the world's piggy bank and it's time they all start paying their own way. The message is that Europe should quit buying Russian energy if they are serious about this minor regional conflict between two equally corrupt governments. That if they want to rally behind the French and go fight Russia they can do it without us. That the children in my neighborhood aren't going to go die for Ukraine. But their foreign legion is taking all comers, so are you packed up for tonight or nah?

I get it. You don’t care because you ignore history and today’s reality. So now it’s about money is it?

Ever consider why the us defense budget and us deficit exploded during the eighties and into the 1990,s?

The Cold War cost this nation between 8 and 12 trillion dollars to stay ahead of putins Soviet Union.

And you want to go back to that? Come now.

Stopping Russian aggression now. In Ukraine saves the us money and saves the lives of us military personnel. I will ask again as you failed to answer.

Explain in detail how pausing aid to Ukraine and suspending cyber attacks on Russia will send a message to Putin that he should withdraw troops from Russia and seek peace

source?

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

I'll answer again as you fail to understand basic English. I don't care if Putin withdraws or seeks peace. I don't care if Ukraine loses. I don't care if they parade Zalensky down Khreshchatyk Street in chains and string him up on the banks of the Dnieper. The message is the America isn't the world's piggy bank and it's time they all start paying their own way. The message is that Europe should quit buying Russian energy if they are serious about this minor regional conflict between two equally corrupt governments. That if they want to rally behind the French and go fight Russia they can do it without us. That the children in my neighborhood aren't going to go die for Ukraine. But their foreign legion is taking all comers, so are you packed up for tonight or nah?

I get it. You don’t care because you ignore history and today’s reality. So now it’s about money is it?

Ever consider why the us defense budget and us deficit exploded during the eighties and into the 1990,s?

The Cold War cost this nation between 8 and 12 trillion dollars to stay ahead of putins Soviet Union.

And you want to go back to that? Come now.

Stopping Russian aggression now. In Ukraine saves the us money and saves the lives of us military personnel. I will ask again as you failed to answer.

Explain in detail how pausing aid to Ukraine and suspending cyber attacks on Russia will send a message to Putin that he should withdraw troops from Russia and seek peace

No, I understand history and today's reality much better than you do evidently. So no, we're not going to war with Russia. No, we're not going to give Ukraine a blank cheque to fight a war they cannot win. No, we're not going to fund European bloodlust again. No, Russia is not a threat to the USA. No, it's not our war.

We offered a deal to Ukraine that would've put economic and logistical stress on Putin to move for peace, and Zelensky said no. The offer that you hand waved away because you just want to argue and blame America for all the world's problems. 

Are you going to fly out tonight or is all this in the abstract for you? Because I think your repeated refusal to accept my offer means that you don't really believe what you're saying, you just like to argue on the internet. Otherwise, pack your bags, they'll issue your rifle when you get there.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

I get it. You don’t care because you ignore history and today’s reality. So now it’s about money is it?

Ever consider why the us defense budget and us deficit exploded during the eighties and into the 1990,s?

The Cold War cost this nation between 8 and 12 trillion dollars to stay ahead of putins Soviet Union.

And you want to go back to that? Come now.

Stopping Russian aggression now. In Ukraine saves the us money and saves the lives of us military personnel. I will ask again as you failed to answer.

Explain in detail how pausing aid to Ukraine and suspending cyber attacks on Russia will send a message to Putin that he should withdraw troops from Russia and seek peace

No, I understand history and today's reality much better than you do evidently. So no, we're not going to war with Russia. No, we're not going to give Ukraine a blank cheque to fight a war they cannot win. No, we're not going to fund European bloodlust again. No, Russia is not a threat to the USA. No, it's not our war.

We offered a deal to Ukraine that would've put economic and logistical stress on Putin to move for peace, and Zelensky said no. The offer that you hand waved away because you just want to argue and blame America for all the world's problems. 

Are you going to fly out tonight or is all this in the abstract for you? Because I think your repeated refusal to accept my offer means that you don't really believe what you're saying, you just like to argue on the internet. Otherwise, pack your bags, they'll issue your rifle when you get there.

Yeah no. Of course Russia's a threat. It’s already attacked by cyber attacks and by trying to manipulate our elections. It’s attacking other countries in Europe and trying to establish mother Soviet bloc. The Cold War is coming.

Who’s blaming America for the world’s problems? Ain’t me. You seem to go from one argument to another with no logic. It’s not like you have offered rebuttal from what I’ve stated. Just Russian talking points.

European bloodlust? You mean Russian blood lust. You seem to forget who the aggressor here is.

We didn’t offer Ukraine crap. Cripes trump was talking deals with Putin WITHOUT UKRAINE IN THE ROOM. How is that working with Ukraine?

Tell you what. For a third time. Explain in detail how pausing aid to Ukraine and suspending cyber attacks on Russia will send a message to Putin that he should withdraw troops from Russia and seek peace

As far as going to Ukraine?

When do you fly out to Russia my Russia loving friend. You know to stop European blood lust? Or perhaps you are already in Moscow writing Russia propaganda to fill the DUVAL forums with?

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No, I understand history and today's reality much better than you do evidently. So no, we're not going to war with Russia. No, we're not going to give Ukraine a blank cheque to fight a war they cannot win. No, we're not going to fund European bloodlust again. No, Russia is not a threat to the USA. No, it's not our war.

We offered a deal to Ukraine that would've put economic and logistical stress on Putin to move for peace, and Zelensky said no. The offer that you hand waved away because you just want to argue and blame America for all the world's problems. 

Are you going to fly out tonight or is all this in the abstract for you? Because I think your repeated refusal to accept my offer means that you don't really believe what you're saying, you just like to argue on the internet. Otherwise, pack your bags, they'll issue your rifle when you get there.

Yeah no. Of course Russia's a threat. It’s already attacked by cyber attacks and by trying to manipulate our elections. It’s attacking other countries in Europe and trying to establish mother Soviet bloc. The Cold War is coming.

Who’s blaming America for the world’s problems? Ain’t me. You seem to go from one argument to another with no logic. It’s not like you have offered rebuttal from what I’ve stated. Just Russian talking points.

European bloodlust? You mean Russian blood lust. You seem to forget who the aggressor here is.

We didn’t offer Ukraine crap. Cripes trump was talking deals with Putin WITHOUT UKRAINE IN THE ROOM. How is that working with Ukraine?

Tell you what. For a third time. Explain in detail how pausing aid to Ukraine and suspending cyber attacks on Russia will send a message to Putin that he should withdraw troops from Russia and seek peace

As far as going to Ukraine?

When do you fly out to Russia my Russia loving friend. You know to stop European blood lust? Or perhaps you are already in Moscow writing Russia propaganda to fill the DUVAL forums with?

Oh dear, it seems I've broken you. You're so far removed from reality that it's simply not worth the effort. Fort he last time, there is no message to Putin because Zelensky reneged on a deal with the USA. You simply cannot accept that simple fact, so nothing else matters at this point. Your guy had his chance and blew it. Now the USA is stepping back as one would expect when one party walks away from the agreement. I guess it's back to just mockery for you now.

And why would I fly to Russia? I'm an American who puts America's interest first. You are the one who wants America to pay the price for defending your favored nation but are expressly unwilling to sacrifice anything of your actual own, even when the expense of logistics is paid for you. So basically, you should put up or shut up. We of course know that you won't because you're nothing but a chickenhawk hiding behind your betters, demanding that they die in your place.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Yeah no. Of course Russia's a threat. It’s already attacked by cyber attacks and by trying to manipulate our elections. It’s attacking other countries in Europe and trying to establish mother Soviet bloc. The Cold War is coming.

Who’s blaming America for the world’s problems? Ain’t me. You seem to go from one argument to another with no logic. It’s not like you have offered rebuttal from what I’ve stated. Just Russian talking points.

European bloodlust? You mean Russian blood lust. You seem to forget who the aggressor here is.

We didn’t offer Ukraine crap. Cripes trump was talking deals with Putin WITHOUT UKRAINE IN THE ROOM. How is that working with Ukraine?

Tell you what. For a third time. Explain in detail how pausing aid to Ukraine and suspending cyber attacks on Russia will send a message to Putin that he should withdraw troops from Russia and seek peace

As far as going to Ukraine?

When do you fly out to Russia my Russia loving friend. You know to stop European blood lust? Or perhaps you are already in Moscow writing Russia propaganda to fill the DUVAL forums with?

Oh dear, it seems I've broken you. You're so far removed from reality that it's simply not worth the effort. Fort he last time, there is no message to Putin because Zelensky reneged on a deal with the USA. You simply cannot accept that simple fact, so nothing else matters at this point. Your guy had his chance and blew it. Now the USA is stepping back as one would expect when one party walks away from the agreement. I guess it's back to just mockery for you now.

And why would I fly to Russia? I'm an American who puts America's interest first. You are the one who wants America to pay the price for defending your favored nation but are expressly unwilling to sacrifice anything of your actual own, even when the expense of logistics is paid for you. So basically, you should put up or shut up. We of course know that you won't because you're nothing but a chickenhawk hiding behind your betters, demanding that they die in your place.

Yeah that’s funny. Let’s review shall we? History has taught us that appeasement of authoritarian aggression has led two world wars that the us ended up in after trying isolationist policy that failed.

History has taught us about the Soviet era Cold War which cost the us trillions of dollars and led us close to the brink of nuclear destruction a number of times.

And now we have an authoritarian Soviet era leader.. who is aggressively attacking Ukraine in a clear attempt to build another Russian Soviet style empire. One who has done cyber attacks against the US and attempted to influence us elections and is filling us media and internet with Russian propaganda

You have nothing to refute this..REPEATED my self THREE TIMES to explain and all you've done is deflect.

Oh and what has trump done? Publicly ended military cyber defense against Russia. Publicly announced peace talks with Russia without Ukrainian involvement.  Publicly ambushed the Ukrainian president and paused us aid to Ukraine and now stopped sharing us intelligence with Ukraine.

And you claim “ there is no message to Putin“?!?!?! Why are you being so obtuse???

Obvious that is a huge message to Putin to keep being aggressively and the US will roll over and give him whatever he wants.

I seriously doubt you are an American. If you are you certainly not putting America first. You are putting Russia first. End of story.

You still cant answer a simple question.

Explain in detail how pausing aid to Ukraine , suspending us intelligence sharing and suspending cyber attacks on Russia will send a message to Putin that he should withdraw troops from Russia and seek peace???

According to you by the way, I am sacrificing my US tax dollars to help Ukraine. I’ve already put my life on the line for my community. I don’t want to have to watch my boys end up fighting a proxy war with Russia or end up in world war 3 against Russia. Thats what your appeasement policy will lead to.

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Yeah no. Of course Russia's a threat. It’s already attacked by cyber attacks and by trying to manipulate our elections. It’s attacking other countries in Europe and trying to establish mother Soviet bloc. The Cold War is coming.

Who’s blaming America for the world’s problems? Ain’t me. You seem to go from one argument to another with no logic. It’s not like you have offered rebuttal from what I’ve stated. Just Russian talking points.

European bloodlust? You mean Russian blood lust. You seem to forget who the aggressor here is.

We didn’t offer Ukraine crap. Cripes trump was talking deals with Putin WITHOUT UKRAINE IN THE ROOM. How is that working with Ukraine?

Tell you what. For a third time. Explain in detail how pausing aid to Ukraine and suspending cyber attacks on Russia will send a message to Putin that he should withdraw troops from Russia and seek peace

As far as going to Ukraine?

When do you fly out to Russia my Russia loving friend. You know to stop European blood lust? Or perhaps you are already in Moscow writing Russia propaganda to fill the DUVAL forums with?

Oh dear, it seems I've broken you. You're so far removed from reality that it's simply not worth the effort. Fort he last time, there is no message to Putin because Zelensky reneged on a deal with the USA. You simply cannot accept that simple fact, so nothing else matters at this point. Your guy had his chance and blew it. Now the USA is stepping back as one would expect when one party walks away from the agreement. I guess it's back to just mockery for you now.

And why would I fly to Russia? I'm an American who puts America's interest first. You are the one who wants America to pay the price for defending your favored nation but are expressly unwilling to sacrifice anything of your actual own, even when the expense of logistics is paid for you. So basically, you should put up or shut up. We of course know that you won't because you're nothing but a chickenhawk hiding behind your betters, demanding that they die in your place.

Yep you have and yes he is.

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

Zelensky met with Starmer and realized that Europe isn't going to help.

Without the USA, Ukraine is doomed, and the rest of Europe have just woken up to this as well.

Europe has had our back for a century, against Russia, islamic extremism, and all other anti-democratic forces. The US also owes about $700 billion in debt to the United Kingdom alone. Trumpists are idiots who will spout whatever nonsense Putin and Murdoch tell them to.

I mean seriously, the US spends yearly a trillion more than it collects in taxes--which it is only able to do because European and other countries buy our bonds--and [BLEEP] Trumpists want to talk about "entitlement"

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Zelensky met with Starmer and realized that Europe isn't going to help.

Without the USA, Ukraine is doomed, and the rest of Europe have just woken up to this as well.

Europe has had our back for a century, against Russia, islamic extremism, and all other anti-democratic forces. The US also owes about $700 billion in debt to the United Kingdom alone. Trumpists are idiots who will spout whatever nonsense Putin and Murdoch tell them to.

I mean seriously, the US spends yearly a trillion more than it collects in taxes--which it is only able to do because European and other countries buy our bonds--and [BLEEP] Trumpists want to talk about "entitlement"

Lol, Europe had our back all right, hiding behind it while the Kaiser, and the Fuhrer, and the Bear were prowling. You're a [BLEEP] moron with a completely inverted understanding of world history; it's clear that it's intentional to satiate your mental disorder, that's simply all there is to it.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Europe has had our back for a century, against Russia, islamic extremism, and all other anti-democratic forces. The US also owes about $700 billion in debt to the United Kingdom alone. Trumpists are idiots who will spout whatever nonsense Putin and Murdoch tell them to.

I mean seriously, the US spends yearly a trillion more than it collects in taxes--which it is only able to do because European and other countries buy our bonds--and [BLEEP] Trumpists want to talk about "entitlement"

Lol, Europe had our back all right, hiding behind it while the Kaiser, and the Fuhrer, and the Bear were prowling. You're a [BLEEP] moron with a completely inverted understanding of world history; it's clear that it's intentional to satiate your mental disorder, that's simply all there is to it.

So many words to basically dismiss and not discuss. You've not addressed a single point.

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Lol, Europe had our back all right, hiding behind it while the Kaiser, and the Fuhrer, and the Bear were prowling. You're a [BLEEP] moron with a completely inverted understanding of world history; it's clear that it's intentional to satiate your mental disorder, that's simply all there is to it.

So many words to basically dismiss and not discuss. You've not addressed a single point.

I perfectly addressed you and why it's pointless to argue with someone who will say literally anything, no matter how wrong or untrue, just so he can keep arguing. That's why I addressed your mental disorder in all those many words. Because it's really the only thing that matters when it comes to interacting with you.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

So many words to basically dismiss and not discuss. You've not addressed a single point.

I perfectly addressed you and why it's pointless to argue with someone who will say literally anything, no matter how wrong or untrue, just so he can keep arguing. That's why I addressed your mental disorder in all those many words. Because it's really the only thing that matters when it comes to interacting with you.

You running away from the points I made says you posted for [BLEEP] and giggles alone otherwise you would have had the balls to refute what I said. The other argument is another example, you fairly went quiet, just like this point.

If you think you are serious - feel free to disprove that the USA is still buying Russian oil or Europe hasn't had our backs throughout history.

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I perfectly addressed you and why it's pointless to argue with someone who will say literally anything, no matter how wrong or untrue, just so he can keep arguing. That's why I addressed your mental disorder in all those many words. Because it's really the only thing that matters when it comes to interacting with you.

You running away from the points I made says you posted for [BLEEP] and giggles alone otherwise you would have had the balls to refute what I said. The other argument is another example, you fairly went quiet, just like this point.

If you think you are serious - feel free to disprove that the USA is still buying Russian oil or Europe hasn't had our backs throughout history.

It's weird, you posted a stupid comment in the OP, you got shut down, and then you went into 6 pages of Dodgeball. Same as the other 50 threads you started here to get a rise. The same as you acting out and getting thrown out of the other message board in like 12 hours. Then you whine that no one takes you seriously, but that's because you aren't serious. You're a clown.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

You running away from the points I made says you posted for [BLEEP] and giggles alone otherwise you would have had the balls to refute what I said. The other argument is another example, you fairly went quiet, just like this point.

If you think you are serious - feel free to disprove that the USA is still buying Russian oil or Europe hasn't had our backs throughout history.

It's weird, you posted a stupid comment in the OP, you got shut down, and then you went into 6 pages of Dodgeball. Same as the other 50 threads you started here to get a rise. The same as you acting out and getting thrown out of the other message board in like 12 hours. Then you whine that no one takes you seriously, but that's because you aren't serious. You're a clown.

This would explain him perfectly..

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/18990731...Yi4tQ&s=19

STEPHEN MILLER just PERFECLTY broke down the sad state of the Democratic Party.

MILLER: Democrats don't have a vision for this country, for the future. They've become totally radicalized. All they have to offer is unthinking, unfeeling, angry, senseless opposition...all they do is oppose every proposal and victory from President Trump supported by 80% of the people.

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You running away from the points I made says you posted for [BLEEP] and giggles alone otherwise you would have had the balls to refute what I said. The other argument is another example, you fairly went quiet, just like this point.

If you think you are serious - feel free to disprove that the USA is still buying Russian oil or Europe hasn't had our backs throughout history.

It's weird, you posted a stupid comment in the OP, you got shut down, and then you went into 6 pages of Dodgeball. Same as the other 50 threads you started here to get a rise. The same as you acting out and getting thrown out of the other message board in like 12 hours. Then you whine that no one takes you seriously, but that's because you aren't serious. You're a clown.

95% of YOUR posts on here is running away from arguments and insulting.

The only time you thought you had a point was a source you did not know what you were reading.

Now put your Borats on and get with the debate or keep insulting for giggles because your incapable of addressing any points.

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It's weird, you posted a stupid comment in the OP, you got shut down, and then you went into 6 pages of Dodgeball. Same as the other 50 threads you started here to get a rise. The same as you acting out and getting thrown out of the other message board in like 12 hours. Then you whine that no one takes you seriously, but that's because you aren't serious. You're a clown.

95% of YOUR posts on here is running away from arguments and insulting.

The only time you thought you had a point was a source you did not know what you were reading.

Now put your Borats on and get with the debate or keep insulting for giggles because your incapable of addressing any points.

Oh doof, never, ever change.

*Hand waves away*

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Good news everyone! Ukraine has agreed to a ceasefire! We might see Doof return from the front lines a hero to his people!

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

Good news everyone! Ukraine has agreed to a ceasefire! We might see Doof return from the front lines a hero to his people!

All hail the returning hero !!!!

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A new broom always sweeps clean.

Good news everyone! Ukraine has agreed to a ceasefire! We might see Doof return from the front lines a hero to his people!

All hail the returning hero !!!!

Slob of Ukraini!!!!

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato