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We Don't Need Sammy Watkins

#61

Watkins is a playmaker and the Jaguars do need playmakers. Nothing wrong with taking him in my opinion.


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#62

Quote:We have Ace Sanders I see Ace progressing this year as a even better wide out, than last year. You get a decent Qb, and have a decent playbook I think this guy can be dangerous like Watkins. If you haven't notice the coaches are trusting him more as a receiver than a PR/KR I would have done the same if I saw this guy taking the initiative to develop as a WR. With the speed he has and the leaping ability to catch the football despite his height , and don't let me forget to mention those hands . This guy is Unbelievable. Cant wait till Regular Season New Qb(Hopefully)  ,New O line  ,New D line , Fresh Start.
I disagree with Justin Blackmon's woes and possibly never being able to play again, not to mention all teams need a guy like Sammy Watkins...

that being said this draft is deep and at WR.. while none of them will be a sammy watkins type of WR

they are decent others in this draft

 

If Clowney isnt there at #3 I see the Jaguars trading down (provided they get a fair offer like 1st round this year & 1st round next year & a 2nd round this year or greater deal).. If that deal isnt there you have to take Sammy Watkins (you could even trade him afterwards if you didnt like the guy but hes close to Calvin Johnson in talent

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#63

Quote:I disagree with Justin Blackmon's woes and possibly never being able to play again, not to mention all teams need a guy like Sammy Watkins...

that being said this draft is deep and at WR.. while none of them will be a sammy watkins type of WR

they are decent others in this draft

 

If Clowney isnt there at #3 I see the Jaguars trading down (provided they get a fair offer like 1st round this year & 1st round next year & a 2nd round this year or greater deal).. If that deal isnt there you have to take Sammy Watkins (you could even trade him afterwards if you didnt like the guy but hes close to Calvin Johnson in talent
i understand people wanting watkins but saying he is close to megatron is just wrong

if we were talking about megatron at 3 I would be all over it but watkins is smaller, slower and just no

 

johnson is 6-5 and 239 and runs a 4.3

watkins is 6-1 and 211 and runs a 4.4

that's nothing to be ashamed of, megatron is a genetic freak that comes around once maybe twice a decade but lets not start touting watkins up as megatron just because he is the best receiver in a deep draft

 

megatron is incredible because not only can he beat you deep but he can also get that big body in the way on slants and curls and make the catch,

 

I'm not saying he can't be a number 1 receiver in the nfl but saying he is close to megatron is just wrong

that being said i do feel he could become a julio jones or dez bryant type or receiver though both of those guys have better physical attributes than watkins ie weight, height and most importantly arm length.

 

that's nothing to sniff at but personally I value sacks higher than receiving yards. A sack can kill a drive whilst consistent pressure can force interceptions in even the best qbs. So I would take mack or clowney above watkins. I think clowney would grade out better and mack would grade out in a similar fashion, both are polished players but without that freak athleticism that makes clowney incredible.

 

teddy rounds out my top 3 as I believe he is a potential franchise qb but that's a fight for another thread

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#64

I could easily see Watkins being a Torry Holt in his prime type. A guy who can stretch the field. To say we don't need a guy like that is just plain silly.


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#65

Quote:I Agree! I believe you need somebody who can actually throw before you find somebody who can catch.. Why draft a talent if you will never see it? Jags need QB first!
Just like the Lions needed a QB before they got Calvin?

Just think, if they had passed on Johnson before, by the time Stafford showed up he'd be throwing to nobodies.

 

And likely wouldn't have had the success he's had so far.

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#66

Quote:Give me a QB or Kalil Mack, plain and simple.
"Just give me a QB, ANY QB, Anyone but Henne!!!"

 

That's kind of how we ended up with Gabbert. Wanting a QB so bad because we were tired of what we had...

 

Just sayin.

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#67

I still can't process the logic of using Ace Sanders as a reason not to draft Watkins.


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#68

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I'm not saying we should necessarily take him at 3, but you can never have too many good WRs. Just like pass rushers.
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#69

Quote:I could easily see Watkins being a Torry Holt in his prime type. A guy who can stretch the field. To say we don't need a guy like that is just plain silly.
 

Just like saying how every team would love a punter that can consistently boom it 50+ yards through the air. It just doesn't mean you need to take one in the 3rd round. Sound familiar?

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#70

Quote:Just like saying how every team would love a punter that can consistently boom it 50+ yards through the air. It just doesn't mean you need to take one in the 3rd round. Sound familiar?
 

Because that's totally the same thing

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#71

Quote:Just like the Lions needed a QB before they got Calvin?

Just think, if they had passed on Johnson before, by the time Stafford showed up he'd be throwing to nobodies.


And likely wouldn't have had the success he's had so far.
What about Shorts? And Blackmon if he returns?
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#72

Quote:What about Shorts? And Blackmon if he returns?
 

The guy with one year left on his deal? And the guy currently suspended?

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#73

what type of impact are we expecting from Watkins if he is the selection? typically, rookies don't produce 1000 yd/80rec/8td seasons.
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#74

Quote:what type of impact are we expecting from Watkins if he is the selection? typically, rookies don't produce 1000 yd/80rec/8td seasons.


I think the hope would be the third pick would not be a 'typical rookie'.
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#75

Peter Warrick, Mike Williams, Roy Williams, etc.

 

There is no sure pick for a WR either. Because of that, is it really that smart to draft one at #3 in what's being called one of the deepest WR drafts ever?


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(This post was last modified: 04-12-2014, 02:42 PM by Shack Del Rio.)

Quote:Peter Warrick, Mike Williams, Roy Williams, etc.

 

There is no sure pick for a WR either. Because of that, is it really that smart to draft one at #3 in what's being called one of the deepest WR drafts ever?
 

Don't draft and offensive tackles. Jason Smith, Robert Gallery, Alex Barron, etc

 

Don't draft a pass rusher. Vernon Gholston, Derrick Harvey, Gaines Adam, etc

 

Don't draft a quarterback. Jamarcus Russell, Blaine Gabbert, Mark Sanchez, etc

 

You can do this for any position.

 

You could also say why draft one at 3 when you can have one in the second. Was it smart for the Bengals to take AJ Green when they could have waited for Randall Cobb. I think so.


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#77

Quote:Peter Warrick, Mike Williams, Roy Williams, etc.

 

There is no sure pick for a WR either. Because of that, is it really that smart to draft one at #3 in what's being called one of the deepest WR drafts ever?
 

There is no sure pick at any position

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#78

Quote:I think the hope would be the third pick would not be a 'typical rookie'.


that's precisely what I'm getting at. Watkins may turn out to be "torry holt" good as another poster suggested. however, being picked at 3 doesn't guarantee it will happen his rookie year. it is more rare than common for a rookie to come in and set the world on fire. better to temper expectations...
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#79

Big difference between a want and a need.. I kinda agree that we don't need him.
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#80

Quote:what type of impact are we expecting from Watkins if he is the selection? typically, rookies don't produce 1000 yd/80rec/8td seasons.
As a rookie?  I doubt it.  Not with Henne under center.

 

To the topic at hand, because we know we're at least a year away from really turning the page with the offense, the plan has to be to make the Jags defense a stout unit that will keep us in games, so you go for the elite pass rusher.  We need to impact the quarterback, and we need to do it far more often than we have in the past.  We can get by with the receivers we have, and if Blackmon manages to stay on the field and keep his nose clean, we'll be even better.


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