for a guy with the best pocket presence, he sure get sacks a lot.  takes a lot of sacks

I think Rodgers is one of the most sacked QBs in the league. A good QB can overcome that.

 

As far as the OP, none of...well most of us don't take any pleasure on seeing our team destroyed on a weekly basis. But based on how the first 4 weeks have gone, Teddy is our only hope going forward.

 

I still hope to see improvement, especially from this year's draft class, but at this point, it's not realistic to expect more than 1 or 2 wins which is being generous based on the QB play so far.

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...as a FRESHman and a sophomore...

 

As I pointed out he's improved not only in reducing the QB sack numbers every season, but improved every year in every facet. 

 

If he ends this season with 13 or less QB sacks (which he's currently well on his way to doing just that) then what are you gonna say? 

 

 

As for his weight, thats allegedly an old number too. vagrantwade or someone was on here, when I listed that as a concern about a month ago, and he claimed that Teddy's weight is now around 220. WHich if true, is fine for an NFL QB. 

i cant use the past but when someone brings up competition you guys use the florida game? dude you cant have your cake and eat it too.

 

if he ends up with 13 sacks great, im just saying he takes a lot of sacks in his career for having great pocket presence and if he comes here our oline is not exactly stable atm. if he did add some pounds that should help him take some sacks.

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Yes.......yes, she probably would have.

 

Focus on winning games??? Wut???  Sorry but at this point of this year, the focus should not be on winning games... The focus should be on getting better, yes....but all winning games does for us at this point is hurt our chances to finally get a player in the draft that could really make a significant difference. 

 

I guess you enjoy being mired in the mediocrity that this team has been stuck in over the last decade.....because if we don't get the at least one of the top 2 selections in the draft, theres a pretty good chance that more of the same will continue for this franchise.

 

If you don't think the team's focus is on winning games you obviously did not read the article on NFL.com that specifically states that is all they are thinking about right now. I based that comment on that article and did not make any stupid assumptions.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000...nroe-trade

 

For anyone too lazy to read the whole thing, I am referring to this statement: The Jaguars' focus now is on games, not the future, (Ian) Rapoport said.

 

You are wrong about what winning games does. It is certainly possible to get the top pick or repeat as the #2 overall pick if he trade up from 3, 4, or 5. With extra picks from Baltimore in rounds 4 and 5, we would still have more than seven picks. Although it obviously would suck to not have a second round pick we may not even need to give up #33 because we only gave the Buccaneers our fourth round pick to leapfrog the Rams for Justin Blackmon.

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Any QB taking 50+ sacks is a concern no matter how much they weigh.

 

the only problem i have with the rodgers and romo comparison is that they both started late in their career. a rookie qb taking 50+ sacks doesnt really scream success.

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If you don't think the team's focus is on winning games you obviously did not read the article on NFL.com that specifically states that is all they are thinking about right now. I based that comment on that article and did not make any stupid assumptions.

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000...nroe-trade

 

For anyone too lazy to read the whole thing, I am referring to this statement: The Jaguars' focus now is on games, not the future, (Ian) Rapoport said.

 

You are wrong about what winning games does. It is certainly possible to get the top pick or repeat as the #2 overall pick if he trade up from 3, 4, or 5. With extra picks from Baltimore in rounds 4 and 5, we would still have more than seven picks. Although it obviously would suck to not have a second round pick we may not even need to give up #33 because we only gave the Buccaneers our fourth round pick to leapfrog the Rams for Justin Blackmon.

Yeah, the Jaguars' focus may be on right now, that doesn't mean Dave Caldwell isn't looking towards the future... which is, you know... his job...

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If you don't think the team's focus is on winning games you obviously did not read the article on NFL.com that specifically states that is all they are thinking about right now.

 

Yeah, of course that's all they're worried about, that's their job. Nobody is saying otherwise.

 

As fans, most of us don't really care about winning 2 or 3 games if it keeps us from getting the #1 pick. If you do care, that's fine too, but most of us don't.

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the only problem i have with the rodgers and romo comparison is that they both started late in their career. a rookie qb taking 50+ sacks doesnt really scream success.

pretty sure Luck took a lot of sacks last year, maybe not 50 but he was sacked often

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pretty sure Luck took a lot of sacks last year, maybe not 50 but he was sacked often

41 I glanced at it when I was looking over Rodgers sack stats a bit earlier.

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i cant use the past but when someone brings up competition you guys use the florida game? dude you cant have your cake and eat it too.

 

if he ends up with 13 sacks great, im just saying he takes a lot of sacks in his career for having great pocket presence and if he comes here our oline is not exactly stable atm. if he did add some pounds that should help him take some sacks.

 

trying to figure out where I mentioned the Florida game?.... :unsure: 

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Judge the player. UCF will be a tough game too.

Judge the player?He passed for 1 TD against Kentucky and Louisville won 27-13,now that's impressive

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Judge the player?He passed for 1 TD against Kentucky and Louisville won 27-13,now that's impressive

 

Yes, because Tom Brady/ Luck/ Manning/ et al, never had a low TD pass number game vs a lesser opponent before....

 

Just stop with this crap. Look at the entire body of work. 

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Judge the player?He passed for 1 TD against Kentucky and Louisville won 27-13,now that's impressive

Alright. You can keep cherry picking games.

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trying to figure out where I mentioned the Florida game?.... :unsure:

i was talking about the bridgewater brigade in this forum  :whistling: since you apparently didnt mention the florida game, whats your opinion on teddy and the level of competition he faces?

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i was talking about the bridgewater brigade in this forum  :whistling: since you apparently didnt mention the florida game, whats your opinion on teddy and the level of competition he faces?

 

I'd be worried if he was mediocre consistently vs the schedule he faces (like Gabbert in college esp his junior season), but since thats not the case, I am not worried at all. 

 

Teddy plays in a pro style offense. He's not going to put up video game numbers all the time like some other college QB do that play in gimmicky systems,

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pretty sure Luck took a lot of sacks last year, maybe not 50 but he was sacked often

 

41 I glanced at it when I was looking over Rodgers sack stats a bit earlier.

luck took 23 sacks his 3 years in stanford. teddy currently has taken 64 and still has more games to go.  if we can use TMD's on pace logic, teddy is on pace to get sacked 100+ his rookie year lol

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I'd be worried if he was mediocre consistently vs the schedule he faces (like Gabbert in college esp his junior season), but since thats not the case, I am not worried at all. 

 

Teddy plays in a pro style offense. He's not going to put up video game numbers all the time like some other college QB do that play in gimmicky systems,

maybe im wrong but doesnt alabama and georgia run pro style offense? murray and mccaron seem to thrive with similar offense like teddy but against better competition. your thoughts?

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luck took 23 sacks his 3 years in stanford. teddy currently has taken 64 and still has more games to go.  if we can use TMD's on pace logic, teddy is on pace to get sacked 100+ his rookie year lol

 

Indy also has/ had a bad OL. Real bad. Indy doesn't/ didn't have a Luke Joeckel at OLT. (and yes, I do believe Joeckel will thrive back at his natural position). 

 

The Jags will also address the interior of the OL this offseason. 

 

I don't see Teddy having the QB sack issues that you apparently do. 

 

Plus, the Jags WR corps will arguably be better than the Colts. SHorts, Blackmon, Sanders, and possibly another addition, compared to Wayne & TY Hilton. Yeah, that favors our WR corps. 

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luck took 23 sacks his 3 years in stanford. teddy currently has taken 64 and still has more games to go. if we can use TMD's on pace logic, teddy is on pace to get sacked 100+ his rookie year lol

Luck also had multiple high round draft picks blocking for him in addition to good presence. And I'm not sure you know what on pace even means.

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maybe im wrong but doesnt alabama and georgia run pro style offense? murray and mccaron seem to thrive with similar offense like teddy but against better competition. your thoughts?

 

AJ McCarron is a game manager, and plays behind an NFL caliber offensive line. (ok hyperbole, but point made)

 

Aaron Murray is actually a pretty good player. I don't see him as the same ceiling or as polished as Teddy, but Murray is good. He also gets sacked around the same number of times that Bridgewater did as a freshman & sophomore. If Teddy stays the course and only gets sacked 10-13 times that will shred Murrays best year. Murray doesn't put up video game numbers either though, so I am not sure of your point here. 

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Luck also had multiple high round draft picks blocking for him in addition to good presence. And I'm not sure you know what on pace even means.

what about when people say a qb with really good pocket presence makes his oline better?

 

let me do the math, luck got sacked 23 in college, 41 in the pro, 41 divide 23 = 1.78. teddy got sacked so far in his 3 years 64. so 64x1.78= 114. im pretty sure thats the pace. or do i still not understand?

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