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Not Cool With Tanking The Season!


It's a shame, because I bet Gus and Dave are drooling over Purifoy. 


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Quote:I have no clue what this is suppose to mean. If you're suggesting I'm calling for Bradley's head after this season you're wrong. I will say if the team continues to play this ineptly throughout the season then his seat should be warming.

 

Losing out only gets you to roll the dice sooner. We all know that drafting a QB is rolling the dice. People want to say "oh, boy look at the Colts I'm sure they were upset they drafted first." Does anyone want to go back and look at the last 15 years of 1st overall draft picks?

 

Tim Couch -    Browns

M. Vick  -- Atl

David Carr -- Houston

C. Palmer - Cincy

E. Manning - S.D.

Alex Smith - 49'er

J. Russell - Oak

M. Stafford - Det

S. Bradford - St. L

C. Newton - Carolina

A. Luck - Indy

 

So, 11 times out of the last 15 years, in this "QB era", a QB was taken 1st overall. Look at that list and tell me how many of those guys turned a team into significant relevancy? There's only 1 SB winner in that list.

 

Now look at the QB's considered top QB's in the league:

 

Brady  - 6th round

Flacco - 18th overall

Roethlisberger  - 11th overall

RGIII - 2nd overall

A. Rodgers - 24th overall

Matt Ryan - 3rd overall

Drew Brees - 64th overall

R. Willson  -  75th overall

Kaepernick - 36th overall

 

Look at that list then realize we took Blaine Gabbert 10th overall and Leftwich 7th overall. We've drafted 2 QB's in the top 10 and neither one of them worked out. We will be drafting in the top 10 again, guaranteed. There's plenty of  serviceable QB's such as Cutler (11th), Romo (UDFA), Rivers (4th), Schaub (90th), Dalton (35th) that could be much better if they had a better supporting cast.

 

The point is losing out will only discourage more fans from buying tickets. Guys like TMD can sit in Jersey and tell us how much better we'd be if we lose since he's not buying tickets and sitting in the seats. If I wasn't spending my money, sitting in the seats every Sunday watching a totally incompetent team, then I might be indifferent like him.

 

But I'd like to see some wins. I'd like to be encouraged going into next season that we have something positive working here. At the end of the season I would like to see this team compete man-to-man with Houston, Tenn, and Indy. We'll be drafting high enough anyway, at least a winning streak at the end of the season gives the fans some hope.

 

Regards.....................the Chiefjag

Of those 11 Quarterbacks,  4 would be considered franchise-caliber Quality -- 36%

 

Beyond the first pick in the past 15 years, QB's taken rounds 2-3:

Donovan McNabb

Akili Smith

Daunte Culpepper

Cade McCown

Shaun King

Chad Pennington

Drew Brees

Quincy Carter

Marques Tuaisosopo

Joey Harrington

Patrick Ramsey

Josh McCown

Byron Leftwich

Kyle Boller

Rex Grossman

Dave Ragone

Chris Simms

Phillip Rivers

Ben Rothlisberger

J.P Losman

Matt Schaub

Aaron Rodgers

Jason Campbell

Charlie Frye

Andrew Walter

David Greene

Vince Young

Matt Leinart

Jay Cutler

Kellen Clemens

Taravis Jackson

Charlie Whitehurst

Brodie Croyle

Brady Quinn

Kevin Kolb

John Beck

Drew Stanton

Trent Edwards

Matt Ryan

Joe Flacco

Brian Bohm

Chad Henne

Kevin O'Connell

Mark Sanchez

Josh Freeman

Pat White

Tim Tebow

Jimmy Clausen

Colt McCoy

Jake Locker

Blaine Gabbert

Christian Ponder

Andy Dalton

Colin Kaepernick

Ryan Mallett

RGIII

Ryan Tannehill

Brandon Weeden

Brock Osweiller

Russell Wilson

Nick Foles

E.J. Manuel

Geno Smith

Mike Glennon


Total of 64 quarterbacks.

Of which I'd say (even counting some I disagree with such as Andy Dalton who is in a good situation and still not doing so hot) 15 are franchise-caliber QB's.

Which equals 23.4%

 

Including just later 1st rounders:

Donovan McNabb

Akili Smith

Daunte Culpepper

Cade McCown

Chad Pennington

Joey Harrington

Patrick Ramsey

Byron Leftwich

Kyle Boller

Rex Grossman

Phillip Rivers

Ben Rothlisberger

J.P Losman

Aaron Rodgers

Jason Campbell

Vince Young

Matt Leinart

Jay Cutler

Brady Quinn

Matt Ryan

Joe Flacco

Mark Sanchez

Josh Freeman

Tim Tebow

Jake Locker

Blaine Gabbert

Christian Ponder

RGIII

Ryan Tannehill

Brandon Weeden

E.J. Manuel

 
31 QB's of which I'd say 10 are franchise quality guys or 32.25%
 
Out of all 75 QB's: 25%

1st pick only; 36.36%
1st round:  33%

1st round, not counting first pick: 32.25%
1st-3rd not counting first pick:  23.4%
 
So I'd say that first pick has a decent success rate with all things considered.  
I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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(This post was last modified: 10-05-2013, 09:41 PM by The_Anchorman.)

I made a spread sheet a couple years back in regards to QB success based the round drafted. It's about 30% success rate, and then it drops significantly from there.

 

It's obvious we'll have either the 1st or 2nd pick this year.  There are 3 QB's in this draft I think have the potential to be all pro...  It's up to Caldwell to decide who that QB is.  I just watched the you tube video of Teddy B against Tulane.  He looks pretty darn good. 

 

He'll need to also have a good mental make up and strong character to be a high caliber QB.  I haven't heard anything negative on him so far.  So I can see where alot of folks are excited about the kid. 

 

Man, I just wish I could go into cryogenic sleep and just be woken up when this season is over! 

 

Oh by the way, Tampa's HC is on the hot seat.  I'm sure he's gonna do everything he can to win games. 

 

 


QB


Year


round


Team


bust


Franchise


Serviceable


Sam Bradford


2010


1


Rams


Y


na


 

Tim Tebow


2010


1


Broncos


Y


na


 

Matt Stafford


2009


1


Lions


na


Y


 

Marc Sanchez


2009


1


Jets


Y


na


 

Josh Freeman


2009


1


Bucs


Y


na


 

Matt Ryan


2008


1


Falcons


 

Y


 

Joe Flacco


2008


1


Ravens


 

y


 

Jamarcus Russel


2007


1


Raiders


Y


 

 

Brady Quinn


2007


1


Browns


Y


 

 

Vince Young


2006


1


Titans


Y


 

 

Matt Leinhart


2006


1


Cardinals


Y


 

 

Jay Cutler


2006


1


Broncos


 

Y


 

Alex Smith


2005


1


49ers


 

Y


 

Aaron Rodgers


2005


1


Packers


 

Y


 

Jason Campbell


2005


1


Redskins


 

 

Y


Eli Manning


2004


1


Chargers


 

Y


 

Phillip Rivers


2004


1


Giants


 

Y


 

Ben Rothlesberger


2004


1


Steelers


 

Y


 

Carson Palmer


2003


1


Bengals


Y


 

 

Byron Leftwich


2003


1


Jaguars


Y


 

 

Kyle Boller


2003


1


Ravens


Y


 

 

Rex Grossman


2003


1


Bears


Y


 

 

David Carr


2002


1


Texans


Y


 

 

Joey Harrington


2002


1


Lions


Y


 

 

Patrick Ramsey


2002


1


Redskins


Y


 

 

Mike Vick


2001


1


Falcons


 

Y


 

Chad Pennington


2001


1


Jets


 

 

Y


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