On Football Outsiders, there is an article written that breaks down the body language of draft prospects as they are interviewed by Jon Gruden. While I agree that any information is helpful, this just seems to be way over the "obsessive" line to me.

 

<p style="margin-left:40px;">"...Those who study Boyd’s body language might also see some defensiveness in his statement. After Boyd explains that others may not think he’s the best quarterback in this class and says, 'But it doesn’t really matter what they think at the end of the day,' Boyd steeples his fingers towards Gruden.


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<p style="margin-left:40px;">When an interview subject steeples his fingers and the fingers are pointed upward, it’s a sign of thoughtfulness behind the words being spoken. When the fingers are pointed towards the speaker–which Boyd does towards Gruden–it can be a sign of the speaker creating a barrier of distance from the listener –a defensive position.


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<p style="margin-left:40px;">The body language and words could reinforce to an observer that Boyd feels defensive and insecure about the way he’s perceived as a prospect
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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

wonder what it means if my fingers are steepled back towards me?

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I feel like I'm back in Psychology 101

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Next year Gruden will have then hooked up to a polygraph machine while he questions them on the whiteboard.

 

Then the water boarding and truth serum!

 

Must see TV.

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The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.

Darn, I always thought that when people steepled their fingers towards me it meant that they have a loved one with diarrhea.

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Next year Gruden will have then hooked up to a polygraph machine while he questions them on the whiteboard.

 

Then the water boarding and truth serum!

 

Must see TV.

 

And then he tells people what a great player they are for putting up with the reeds under the fingernails technique.

 

Maybe next year he can bring on Jeff Ireland as a special guest and have him ask QBs why their parents are involved in prostitution.

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

On Football Outsiders, there is an article written that breaks down the body language of draft prospects as they are interviewed by Jon Gruden. While I agree that any information is helpful, this just seems to be way over the "obsessive" line to me.

 

<p style="margin-left:40px;">"...Those who study Boyd’s body language might also see some defensiveness in his statement. After Boyd explains that others may not think he’s the best quarterback in this class and says, 'But it doesn’t really matter what they think at the end of the day,' Boyd steeples his fingers towards Gruden.


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<p style="margin-left:40px;">When an interview subject steeples his fingers and the fingers are pointed upward, it’s a sign of thoughtfulness behind the words being spoken. When the fingers are pointed towards the speaker–which Boyd does towards Gruden–it can be a sign of the speaker creating a barrier of distance from the listener –a defensive position.


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<p style="margin-left:40px;">The body language and words could reinforce to an observer that Boyd feels defensive and insecure about the way he’s perceived as a prospect
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You don't need an entire article to suggest something like that.

 

I thought Boyd has tremendous self confidence, which is something you want.  But he also shows he's got a lot to learn about the game.  He's got a lot of good leadership qualities, though.  I think he's bright enough to know his weaknesses, and to know his impossible challenge in convincing others he's the best in the class.  That's a tough argument to make and he knows it.

 

I found it almost amusing how he overshadowed the other QBs when sitting in on Mariucci's show.  There was no question he was the alpha of the pack (which included a big name candidate.)

 

I wrote him off completely earlier, but now I think he'd be a nice later round investment pick.  He certainly needs seasoning like they all do, but I wouldn't be opposed to letting him work at it in the wings 2-3 years before writing him off again.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

And then he tells people what a great player they are for putting up with the reeds under the fingernails technique.

 

Maybe next year he can bring on Jeff Ireland as a special guest and have him ask QBs why their parents are involved in prostitution.

Pretty sure Ireland is with the Seahawks right now.Not sure a consultant can be on Gruden's show or not.  Might be a conflict of interest.

 

They will however look at 'names' and genealogy.  For example... Tom Savage's great great great great great great grandfather's half-sister is the great great great great great great grandmother of Ryan Leaf.  Which should take him off of everyone's board.  On the other hand, Brynn Renner and Tom Brady are third cousins twice removed, meaning he should be moving up.  But with a name like Brynn...

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

Darn, I always thought that when people steepled their fingers towards me it meant that they have a loved one with diarrhea.

 

Maybe it's both.

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You don't need an entire article to suggest something like that.

 

I thought Boyd has tremendous self confidence, which is something you want.  But he also shows he's got a lot to learn about the game.  He's got a lot of good leadership qualities, though.  I think he's bright enough to know his weaknesses, and to know his impossible challenge in convincing others he's the best in the class.  That's a tough argument to make and he knows it.

 

I found it almost amusing how he overshadowed the other QBs when sitting in on Mariucci's show.  There was no question he was the alpha of the pack (which included a big name candidate.)

 

I wrote him off completely earlier, but now I think he'd be a nice later round investment pick.  He certainly needs seasoning like they all do, but I wouldn't be opposed to letting him work at it in the wings 2-3 years before writing him off again.

 

I'd take Boyd in the late round for sure.

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I'd take Boyd in the late round for sure.

me too, seems like he can be a decent back up in this league with a ceiling of Garrard type career

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I'd take Boyd in the late round for sure.

 

He's a great insurance pick. I'd feel safe with him on the roster in a sense that he's a prototypical game manager that will only be good as his receivers.

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THERE IS A SKELETON INSIDE OF YOU.

 

RIGHT NOW. THIS IS NOT A JOKE.

me too, seems like he can be a decent back up in this league with a ceiling of Garrard type career

 

That is who he reminds me of. I think he would be a solid pick in the 6-7 round. Can't be any worse than Matt Scott.

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