You answered your own question. They chance it because they can possibly save two lives directly, and perhaps thousands more as a result of  of their research on two live subjects. If only your concern for these two lives matched that you displayed for a rabbit.

 

Knowledge is power, which explains your impotence when discussing this subject.

 

Oh here we go... yawn

 

 

I'm all for advancement/ finding cures...that doesn't mean its smart to bring these people over here into our country and risk an outbreak here. 

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You answered your own question. They chance it because they can possibly save two lives directly, and perhaps thousands more as a result of  of their research on two live subjects. If only your concern for these two lives matched that you displayed for a rabbit.

 

Knowledge is power, which explains your impotence when discussing this subject.

Why introduce a disease when you can't sell a cure?

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I keep seeing it pop up on the news feeds I guess a couple of American doctors got it over in Africa and they're coming stateside. I don't know much about Ebola or what it does other than what I've read in the last couple of days, apparently there's no cure and it has a 90% kill rate? Sounds like something I should no more about?

 

Anyone else keeping one eye on this? Any chance of it being an issue here? I know they said a couple of the African nations had to close their borders to try and keep it from spreading. Anyways thoughts........

 

My wife was freaking out after hearing this on the news.  I said relax honey they are professionals carrying these humanitarians to a special facility to give them the best chance of success at life.  She said they are the professionals and they took every precaution when they were out there and still got it, and why not bring the facilities to them in Africa rather than bring a possible deadly disease to our shores on purpose.  To which I said

 

Merica' thats why

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My wife was freaking out after hearing this on the news.  I said relax honey they are professionals carrying these humanitarians to a special facility to give them the best chance of success at life. 

 

 

She said they are the professionals and they took every precaution when they were out there and still got it, and why not bring the facilities to them in Africa rather than bring a possible deadly disease to our shores on purpose. 

 

 

Gee, I guess others share my concerns/ thoughts on this matter. 

 

What she said in that 2nd sentence is a point of view I share as well and spits in the face of lax attitudes on the matter like rollerjags. (the "you are paranoid, its safe, it won't spread here" viewpoint...) 

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My wife was freaking out after hearing this on the news.  I said relax honey they are professionals carrying these humanitarians to a special facility to give them the best chance of success at life.  She said they are the professionals and they took every precaution when they were out there and still got it, and why not bring the facilities to them in Africa rather than bring a possible deadly disease to our shores on purpose.  To which I said

 

Merica' thats why

 

It's amazing how people trained to handle this disease, including the expert in Africa, were infected by Ebola. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Oh here we go... yawn

 

 

I'm all for advancement/ finding cures...that doesn't mean its smart to bring these people over here into our country and risk an outbreak here. 

They took extensive precautions in bringing back the two Americans who were infected.  Odds are if there's an Ebola outbreak that hits our shores, it won't be because of these two patients.  There are illegals pouring across our southern border, and they confirmed over the weekend that some of those who have come into the US from Mexico were coming from areas impacted by Ebola. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

It's amazing how people trained to handle this disease, including the expert in Africa, were infected by Ebola. 

 

exactly, hence why I don't want to chance bringing these people back over here. 

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exactly, hence why I don't want to chance bringing these people back over here. 

 

Again, the odds of being exposed to Ebola by these two people is practically non-existent.  There's more danger coming from our southern border, and it's not just Ebola that's a possible threat coming from Mexico.  But, feel free to wring your hands over this as if the CDC doesn't have a clue how to handle things like this.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Again, the odds of being exposed to Ebola by these two people is practically non-existent.  There's more danger coming from our southern border, and it's not just Ebola that's a possible threat coming from Mexico.  But, feel free to wring your hands over this as if the CDC doesn't have a clue how to handle things like this.

 

Well the 2 expert doctors that still managed to contract the disease despite all kinds of precautions & "clues" on how to handle this...suggest otherwise - or at least that this is far from something to assume. 

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Well the 2 expert doctors that still managed to contract the disease despite all kinds of precautions & "clues" on how to handle this...suggest otherwise - or at least that this is far from something to assume. 

I would suspect they didn't have the kind of equipment the CDC does here in the states.  Even the container they were sending over to transport them back to the US was state of the art. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

I would suspect they didn't have the kind of equipment the CDC does here in the states.  Even the container they were sending over to transport them back to the US was state of the art. 

 

You are correct. Hospital workers in the areas affected by the current Ebola outbreak have very little with which to protect themselves. Even latex/nitrile gloves are in short supply. I've no doubt the two patients they are bringing back were aware of what precautions must be taken, they just did not have the means to take them.

 

I do not dispute that the virus can get into this country. It's not just the Mexican border that's vulnerable. But it is not lax to presume the folks at Emory and the CDC aren't equipped to handle these two patients in particular.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
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exactly, hence why I don't want to chance bringing these people back over here. 

 

Hence why your input should be taken with a grain, nay a barrel, of salt. Because you speak from admitted ignorance of the subject matter.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
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Hence why your input should be taken with a grain, nay a barrel, of salt. Because you speak from admitted ignorance of the subject matter.

 

and you speak with a lot of assumptions on the matter, so I guess were even. 

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You are correct. Hospital workers in the areas affected by the current Ebola outbreak have very little with which to protect themselves. Even latex/nitrile gloves are in short supply. I've no doubt the two patients they are bringing back were aware of what precautions must be taken, they just did not have the means to take them.

 

I do not dispute that the virus can get into this country. It's not just the Mexican border that's vulnerable. But it is not lax to presume the folks at Emory and the CDC aren't equipped to handle these two patients in particular.

It's not just the Mexican border that's vulnerable.  That is correct.  All it takes is for one patient who has been exposed but is not yet symptomatic to leave that area of the world, hop on a plan, and suddenly you've got a global pandemic on your hands.  It sounds like there have been a few near misses, but that's only accounting for those instances that are being reported.  It's quite possible more than one person has been on a plane who has infected others, and then it spreads from there.  It remains to be seen if the current outbreak is isolated or not.  It could take a few weeks to know for sure. 

 

What's the incubation period?  21 days?  That's a pretty big window to wait and see if it shows up elsewhere. 

 

From what I understand, there were people who were on planes with a possibly infected patient.  They were told they had been exposed, but they were allowed to continue on with their travels.  I'm not sure if the patient they were supposedly exposed to was confirmed to have Ebola.  I know one of the initial reports about a woman who died on a flight from the disease was incorrect.  She died of natural causes and was not infected. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

and you speak with a lot of assumptions on the matter, so I guess were even. 

 

As soon as you have a clue, we'll be closer to even.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
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My wife was freaking out after hearing this on the news.  I said relax honey they are professionals carrying these humanitarians to a special facility to give them the best chance of success at life.  She said they are the professionals and they took every precaution when they were out there and still got it, and why not bring the facilities to them in Africa rather than bring a possible deadly disease to our shores on purpose.  To which I said

 

Merica' thats why

 

I imagine they don't bring the facilities to them so they don't risk even more people being infected, and because set up would waste valuable time.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

I don't know why people get so worked up over this. The actual fatality rate is 50%-90%, which is bad enough, but mostly it's because of poor treatment in isolated areas of remote regions of Africa. It's only transmitted through exchange of bodily fluids, like AIDS, and it's not airborne, like Influenza. Influenza kills 36,000 people in the U.S. every year. Where's the hysteria about that?

 

It's a very inefficient virus! Not like the AIDS virus which can linger in a person's body for months and years spreading throughout the community undetected before it manifests itself into a full blown disease.

 

A virus must have a "host" to survive. When the virus kills it's host the virus dies with it. When a virus like Ebola, or Reston, infects it's host sickening, then killing, it quickly, it is an inefficient virus. It's why the Influenza and AIDS virus can spread worldwide and continue to find hosts.

 

These two workers are known hosts, they will be isolated, and treated. I have no concern about them coming home. They need to be with their families.

 

Regards.......................the Chiefjag

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I don't know why people get so worked up over this. The actual fatality rate is 50%-90%, which is bad enough, but mostly it's because of poor treatment in isolated areas of remote regions of Africa. It's only transmitted through exchange of bodily fluids, like AIDS, and it's not airborne, like Influenza. Influenza kills 36,000 people in the U.S. every year. Where's the hysteria about that?

 

It's a very inefficient virus! Not like the AIDS virus which can linger in a person's body for months and years spreading throughout the community undetected before it manifests itself into a full blown disease.

 

A virus must have a "host" to survive. When the virus kills it's host the virus dies with it. When a virus like Ebola, or Reston, infects it's host sickening, then killing, it quickly, it is an inefficient virus. It's why the Influenza and AIDS virus can spread worldwide and continue to find hosts.

 

These two workers are known hosts, they will be isolated, and treated. I have no concern about them coming home. They need to be with their families.

 

Regards.......................the Chiefjag

 

Excellent post.

 

But we don't want to deny those who enjoy doing so the right to panic, do we?

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The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.

 

 

Ebola virus is not airborne, so people would have to come into direct contact with the bodily fluids of an infected person. These include blood, sweat, vomit, feces, urine, saliva or semen

Had some lady with a fever and vomiting on a plane that landed in England today. 

 

However...

In addition, the Public Health Agency of Canada’s official website states under a section entitled “mode of transmission,” that “airborne spread among humans is strongly suspected, although it has not yet been conclusively demonstrated.”

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Had some lady with a fever and vomiting on a plane that landed in England today. 

 

However...

In addition, the Public Health Agency of Canada’s official website states under a section entitled “mode of transmission,” that “airborne spread among humans is strongly suspected, although it has not yet been conclusively demonstrated.”

 

That can't be true, rollerjag talked down to me stating that that can't happen. 

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