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What Makes You Think Teddy Bridgewater Is The Answer?

#41

Quote:After watching a lot of Teddy Bridgewater this season (and some last season), my only concern today is the same concern as it was the very first time I watched him.....his size. 

 

vagrant & others can talk about him being 220 or close to that, but even if true, he still looks very small out there. The eye test shows that. I wonder how he will hold up on a consistent basis vs the bigger, stronger players of the NFL. 

 

Other than that though, I have very few issues with the player.
That's cause he's 6ft., 3in.

 

He has the frame to carry 230/35 easy.

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#42

Quote:Will he be the savior? Or will he be Ryan Leaf, Tim Couch, Jamarcus Russel, Heath Shuler, David Carr, Vince Young, Joey Harrington, Jeff George, Byron Leftwich, Leinhart........

There is no sure thing. Maybe it would be better to trade the pick, stock up and take Mettenburger or Manziel a little later.

This team has so many needs, the QB position is just the beginning.

With the current line up, would Stafford, Rivers, Ryan lead us to the playoffs? Even Brady is struggling when his supporting cast is gone.

Hopefully, there will be no pure rebuilding through the draft only, and that a concerted effort made to get a few proven FAs and build around whomever they draft.

Plus the fact, theres the matter of Jags not getting the 1st pick. They can do something stupid like win a couple meaningless games.
Well thats just dumb. Because other QB's have failed, we should not take the best available one?

 

Colts definitely should have traded the #1 pick because.... well you know... there is no such thing as a "sure thing." They had a lot of holes after going 2-14 so they should have traded that pick and stockpiled more picks! Genius!

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#43

Quote:Exatly, I just want the Jaguars to pick the right guy, Bridgewater at this point definitely looks the "the guy".
 

I agree. What it seems like to me is that so many people in Jacksonville (fans and media) are so afraid of taking the wrong QB again that are trying hard to find reasons he is not the guy. I hear them ask how Bridgewater would do in the SEC. And yet when someone brings up the two SEC teams he has played in his last half dozen games, alot of excuses are made why they should not count. He dominated Florida but so many people downplay it.

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#44
(This post was last modified: 10-11-2013, 12:23 PM by The Mad Dog.)

Quote:That's cause he's 6ft., 3in.

 

He has the frame to carry 230/35 easy.
 

I wonder if even the 6'3" part is legit.....I guess we won't truly know until combine time. College heights/ weights have been known to be exaggerated. 

 

All things being equal - I'd rather have a player that is naturally a solid frame/ certain weight than one that is skinny and needs to "make that happen" - because when/ if it does, it sometimes effects other parts of the player's game/ mechanics. 

 

the only problem with that - is the other QB have not shown to be "equal" to Teddy's game, so it might have to be one aspect that we just "take a chance on". 


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#45

Quote:That's cause he's 6ft., 3in.

 

He has the frame to carry 230/35 easy.
 

I think Brady was like 6'5 200 at the combine. If you saw the photo of him from the combine, he looks like some random teenager. 

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#46

Quote:I love that we have finally started arguing about this Smile All the Gabbert / Henne Supporters can be put in one category of delusional people that know nothing about football and need to be ignored.. ... If Bridgewater was white, people would have more confidence in him... He can throw a football, he goes to a small school but at least he's producing well against teams he should beat.. Last nights game showed me a lot about his ability to remain calm when the game was close. He had no panicky.. The entire game he had the confidence that he was going to win... I'm still not completely sold but the kid can play
 

I don't doubt this. Let's be real there are a lot of lingering stereotypes regarding black QBs. This will slowly change, as more and more of the top QBs drafted are black and teams look toward QBs that are multidimensional threats. 

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#47

Quote:I think Brady was like 6'5 200 at the combine. If you saw the photo of him from the combine, he looks like some random teenager. 
 

Good point...although, Brady never looked "short"....for whatever reason, Bridgewater does. 

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#48

Quote:I wonder if even the 6'3" part is legit.....I guess we won't truly know until combine time. College heights/ weights have been known to be exaggerated. 

 

All things being equal - I'd rather have a player that is naturally a solid frame/ certain weight than one that is skinny and needs to "make that happen" - because when/ if it does, it sometimes effects other parts of the player's game/ mechanics. 

 

the only problem with that - is the other QB have not shown to be "equal" to Teddy's game, so it might have to be one aspect that we just "take a chance on". 
If you go by physical attributes and combine times, you are basically drafting like the Raiders did for a long time.

 

"This guy is really fast! Let's get him! Heyward-Bey please!"

 

Teddy is the best QB out there right now. Regardless of his "build", we take him if we have the #1 pick.

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#49

Quote:Good point...although, Brady never looked "short"....for whatever reason, Bridgewater does. 
 

He's bigger than Geno. Geno was 6'2 218 coming out. 

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#50

Quote:If you go by physical attributes and combine times, you are basically drafting like the Raiders did for a long time.

 

"This guy is really fast! Let's get him! Heyward-Bey please!"

 

Teddy is the best QB out there right now. Regardless of his "build", we take him if we have the #1 pick.
 

I never said that I wouldn't still take him 1st overall....

 

And not exactly a great comparison there. 

 

I couldn't care less about 40 times. 

 

For a QB though, physical size and hand size can be important factors. IIRC, small hand size in addition to having an effect with deeper throws, can lead to more fumbles. 

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#51

Quote:Please.. I've watched more of Bridgewater than you can even imagine. I see a player who is in the heisman running with 18 TDs and 2 picks.

I just look at the highlights...... Haha
Good for you...I've also watched every game he's played in this year...every snap too... there's no doubt he's in the Heisman talk... there was also talk about him slipping I the Heisman votes this morning too... I don't know that he has or has not slipped... but right now I think there's three or four QB's ahead of him in the race for the Heisman...

Here's the funny thing... when some sees what he's done in the games he's played in (like I have) last night and all the other games this year says something like what has been said... people like you jump in to defend him... there's nothing I've said that isn't the truth... he made several bad throws last night...he made several in the Kentucky game that I pointed out earlier... but nowhere have I said ( or others have said) that he's a bad QB... just pointing out what happened in those games...that doesn't make him a bad QB but to act like he's never had bad games is laughable... that game last night was not his best compared to his other games...that simple and just stating the facts...
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#52

Quote:I never said that I wouldn't still take him 1st overall....

 

And not exactly a great comparison there. 

 

I couldn't care less about 40 times. 

 

For a QB though, physical size and hand size can be important factors. IIRC, small hand size in addition to having an effect with deeper throws, can lead to more fumbles. 
I totally get what you're saying. The combine can be a great place to double check a lot of questions you may have about a player.

 

Although physical size can be important, it shouldn't be the end all be all. Thats how players like Drew Brees and Russ Wilson go un-noticed.

 

Teddy's deep ball looks just fine to me. That throw he had last night with a free rusher in his face was just nasty.

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#53

Quote:Why is he not worth that high of a pick in your opinion?


The games I have been him play against good defenses he has not be good enough to say hey that's our guy...I mean Carr put up 5 TDs and 400+ passing yards on Rutgers and I feel like he should have been able to do me if he is "the guy". Maybe I'm looking into this to deep but why take a chance on a guy that HAS to start just like gabby did...Bridgewater can't handle that any better then gabby...
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#54

Quote:After watching a lot of Teddy Bridgewater this season (and some last season), my only concern today is the same concern as it was the very first time I watched him.....his size. 

 

vagrant & others can talk about him being 220 or close to that, but even if true, he still looks very small out there. The eye test shows that. I wonder how he will hold up on a consistent basis vs the bigger, stronger players of the NFL. 

 

Other than that though, I have very few issues with the player.
 

I thought the same thing last night as I was watching. I noticed that his helmet is one of those oversized types (Schutt, I believe). If you look at photos of him, it seems as if his head is too large for his body when his helmet is on.

 

Might be the same thing you are seeing.

I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!
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#55

Quote:The games I have been him play against good defenses he has not be good enough to say hey that's our guy...I mean Carr put up 5 TDs and 400+ passing yards on Rutgers and I feel like he should have been able to do me if he is "the guy". Maybe I'm looking into this to deep but why take a chance on a guy that HAS to start just like gabby did...Bridgewater can't handle that any better then gabby...
 

What games other than the Rutgers game are you basing these assumptions that he can't handle starting right away like Gabbert? 

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#56
(This post was last modified: 10-11-2013, 12:58 PM by JagsFerLife.)

Quote:After watching a lot of Teddy Bridgewater this season (and some last season), my only concern today is the same concern as it was the very first time I watched him.....his size. 

 

vagrant & others can talk about him being 220 or close to that, but even if true, he still looks very small out there. The eye test shows that. I wonder how he will hold up on a consistent basis vs the bigger, stronger players of the NFL. 

 

Other than that though, I have very few issues with the player.
He'll bulk up quick once he hits an NFL locker room, I think. By the time training camp and stuff is over, he can probably put on 10+ pounds on muscle. After a full season, I think he can get up to about 220.

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Yes, Teddy has his worst game of the season last night, and does has stuff to work on, but I think his "bad" games will be a whole lot better than what we've seen these past few years.


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#57

Quote:What games other than the Rutgers game are you basing these assumptions that he can't handle starting right away like Gabbert?


Our Oline is enough to say he is being thrown to the wolfs...if u get another average qb in 2nd or 3rd round he don't HAVE to start right away. If we draft Teddy #1 overall he pretty much has to start. I still believe if gabby got to sit for a couple years and had a better oline he maybe just maybe may have some confidence and not be a scared little sissy...Teddy will end up just as gabbert. Started way too soon, unless we plan to draft 5 more linemen behind him
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#58

Quote:Our Oline is enough to say he is being thrown to the wolfs...if u get another average qb in 2nd or 3rd round he don't HAVE to start right away. If we draft Teddy #1 overall he pretty much has to start. I still believe if gabby got to sit for a couple years and had a better oline he maybe just maybe may have some confidence and not be a scared little sissy...Teddy will end up just as gabbert. Started way too soon, unless we plan to draft 5 more linemen behind him
 

So you think Bridgewater would end up like Gabbert because he'd have to start right away although, pocket presence and ability to keep eyes downfield are 2 things Bridgewater thrives on that Gabbert even struggled with at Mizzou.

 

And if we draft an average QB in the 2nd or 3rd, who is going to start over him? Because none of the guys on this roster are even average. 

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#59

Quote:Our Oline is enough to say he is being thrown to the wolfs...if u get another average qb in 2nd or 3rd round he don't HAVE to start right away. If we draft Teddy #1 overall he pretty much has to start. I still believe if gabby got to sit for a couple years and had a better oline he maybe just maybe may have some confidence and not be a scared little sissy...Teddy will end up just as gabbert. Started way too soon, unless we plan to draft 5 more linemen behind him
 

Guys are who they are. If you need a perfect offensive line to be a good quarterback than you aren't the right guy. Too many recent instances of rookie QB's starting on day one to think that anyone needs that much time on the sideline.

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#60

Quote:I gotta admit, after watching him against Rutgers and earlier against Kentucky, I'm a lot less sold on Teddy then I was after the Florida game last year.


^^I'm with you on this. I still would be happy if the Jags take him though. I'm just not near as sold on him as a lot of fans are.
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