And the Jags have?

 

Brunell, before his knee injury in 1997.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

It shows just how clueless their personnel department is when it comes to QBs.

If they try to sign LeFevour away from the Hamilton Tiger-Cats then we'll know for certain the tinhorns indeed are on to something. 

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It shows just how clueless their personnel department is when it comes to QBs.

 

 No see the Texans are just a little more picky when it comes to expending a top pick on a QB. 

And with no top picks available they made the right choice to wait till next year.

   And we will have a top defense for years to come.

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No see the Texans are just a little more picky when it comes to expending a top pick on a QB.

And with no top picks available they made the right choice to wait till next year.

And we will have a top defense for years to come.

Who said there were no "top picks available?"

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

 No see the Texans are just a little more picky when it comes to expending a top pick on a QB. 

And with no top picks available they made the right choice to wait till next year.

   And we will have a top defense for years to come.

 

That remains to be seen

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We'll see if the Texans have a Top Defense for years to come.  It certainly looks like a dangerous defense. They might still find a QB next year.  I don't however think they'll wind up with one as good as Bortles. 

 

My thoughts on Ryan Mallett (and Tom Savage for that matter), for the record, have nothing to do with him being a Texan.  I didn't think he'd turn out to be much on the Patriots, and wouldn't think he'd turn out to be much even if the Jags signed him.   In fact, I think the Texans should have waited a round or two and drafted Mettenberger instead of Savage.  I think the Titans got a really good deal there. 


Of course we don't know what Bortles will become.  He hasn't played a Down that counts yet.  But we don't know what next years crop will do either.  They haven't even played their last year of college yet.  Personally I have high hopes for Bortles given what he's shown so far.  

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

We'll see if the Texans have a Top Defense for years to come.  It certainly looks like a dangerous defense. They might still find a QB next year.  I don't however think they'll wind up with one as good as Bortles. 

 

My thoughts on Ryan Mallett (and Tom Savage for that matter), for the record, have nothing to do with him being a Texan.  I didn't think he'd turn out to be much on the Patriots, and wouldn't think he'd turn out to be much even if the Jags signed him.   In fact, I think the Texans should have waited a round or two and drafted Mettenberger instead of Savage.  I think the Titans got a really good deal there. 


Of course we don't know what Bortles will become.  He hasn't played a Down that counts yet.  But we don't know what next years crop will do either.  They haven't even played their last year of college yet.  Personally I have high hopes for Bortles given what he's shown so far.  

 

Good quarterbacks come out most years. The texans will still have to actually identify them, though, and given their seeming miss on Bortles and bad evaluation of Schaub (paying that guy was complete idiocy. Anyone with any ability to evaluate could see his success was coming from the pieces around him, not from him) I'm not sure they can do it.

 

Of course just getting a "good" QB really isn't enough, especially if the Jaguars continue to build their team as well as they seem to be.

 

I foresee a lot of heartbreaking losses against the Jagaurs for the texans in the future as they play good tough games but always lose at the end because we have the better QB.

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Good quarterbacks come out most years. The texans will still have to actually identify them, though, and given their seeming miss on Bortles and bad evaluation of Schaub (paying that guy was complete idiocy. Anyone with any ability to evaluate could see his success was coming from the pieces around him, not from him) I'm not sure they can do it.

 

Of course just getting a "good" QB really isn't enough, especially if the Jaguars continue to build their team as well as they seem to be.

 

I foresee a lot of heartbreaking losses against the Jagaurs for the texans in the future as they play good tough games but always lose at the end because we have the better QB.

 

To be fair, they may be changing GM's before you know it.  Gene Smith couldn't identify a starting Quarterback if his life depended on it.  He could go back in time, knowing what Peyton Manning would become, and if he brought a QB back from the past, it'd be Ryan Leaf.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

To be fair, they may be changing GM's before you know it.  Gene Smith couldn't identify a starting Quarterback if his life depended on it.  He could go back in time, knowing what Peyton Manning would become, and if he brought a QB back from the past, it'd be Ryan Leaf.

 

It'll be interesting to see what happens in Houston. I expect they'll be just good enough to replay the Del Rio years here. A lot of 7 8 and 9 win seasons on the strength of their defense.

 

A problem they'll face is the premier GM prospects won't like the idea of coming in with a coach already in place, so do they dump Billy O, take a second tier GM prospect, or just stick with what they have for 3 more seasons?

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If the Texans are in position to draft Hackenberg in 2016, I'm guessing O'Brien won't be the coach

Not necessarily. Keep in mind of how long Kubiak was coach. Sure he didn't have an absolute horrible season until last year, but he kept the team just average until the 2011 season. And Dom Capers was even given a longer leash than people anticipated. Also, if we theoretically took Hackenberg in 2016 it could just be because we traded a haul to move up for him.


In all likelihood that probably won't happen though. In the next draft I see the Texans drafting either a CB in the first round(since the draft will supposedly be rich in corner talent), a WR to succeed Andre when he retires, or maybe a safety-in then in the second and third we'll draft a RT and a QB. Probably whoever ends up the best between Kevin Hogan, Connor Cook and Sean Mannion. I'd prefer Bryce Petty but he'll likely go in the first round.

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It'll be interesting to see what happens in Houston. I expect they'll be just good enough to replay the Del Rio years here. A lot of 7 8 and 9 win seasons on the strength of their defense.


A problem they'll face is the premier GM prospects won't like the idea of coming in with a coach already in place, so do they dump Billy O, take a second tier GM prospect, or just stick with what they have for 3 more seasons?

OB was more McNair's guy than Smith's. Smith liked the hire but he was reportedly more interested in Lovie Smith and Whisenhunt. I would have been ok with any of those two hired but I think O'Brien deserved an NFL head coaching gig so I'm glad we have it to him.


I see our division becoming respectable again fairly soon. As much as it may pain me to say it, I'll humbly admit that I can see the Jaguars finishing second in the division with an 8-8/9-7 record, depending on how soon Bortles takes over and how well he does of course. The Texans will finish between 6-10/8-8, and the Titans will probably finish similar to us, maybe slightly lower since I do think we're the better team over them as long as we get decent QB play(which of course might be asking too much lol).

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Brunell, before his knee injury in 1997.

 He was pretty good,but hardly a world beater.

Matt Schaub had more passing yards.

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Who said there were no "top picks available?"

  Plenty of people called this QB draft class sub par.

If you want to argue I guess I can do some google searches to prove it.

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That remains to be seen

As does Bortles success as a QB.

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We'll see if the Texans have a Top Defense for years to come.  It certainly looks like a dangerous defense. They might still find a QB next year.  I don't however think they'll wind up with one as good as Bortles. 

 

My thoughts on Ryan Mallett (and Tom Savage for that matter), for the record, have nothing to do with him being a Texan.  I didn't think he'd turn out to be much on the Patriots, and wouldn't think he'd turn out to be much even if the Jags signed him.   In fact, I think the Texans should have waited a round or two and drafted Mettenberger instead of Savage.  I think the Titans got a really good deal there. 


Of course we don't know what Bortles will become.  He hasn't played a Down that counts yet.  But we don't know what next years crop will do either.  They haven't even played their last year of college yet.  Personally I have high hopes for Bortles given what he's shown so far.  

 

  By no means am I calling the current crop of QBs on the Texans roster world beaters. Far from it.

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Good quarterbacks come out most years. The texans will still have to actually identify them, though, and given their seeming miss on Bortles and bad evaluation of Schaub (paying that guy was complete idiocy. Anyone with any ability to evaluate could see his success was coming from the pieces around him, not from him) I'm not sure they can do it.

 

Of course just getting a "good" QB really isn't enough, especially if the Jaguars continue to build their team as well as they seem to be.

 

I foresee a lot of heartbreaking losses against the Jagaurs for the texans in the future as they play good tough games but always lose at the end because we have the better QB.

I see this as the whole static team argument.

Anyone can pick a QB based on college performance,whether they pan out is a different story.

  Bortles looks good so far no doubt,but he's no different than Clowney even though Clowney probably has a better chance at success due to the difficulty of the QB position.

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He was pretty good,but hardly a world beater.

Matt Schaub had more passing yards.

The passing game has been totally different in matt schaubs career than it was in MB's. That stat is impossible to use unless it is the reverse.


Also this draft was supposed to be way better for qbs as opposed to 2013, then all the sudden people were saying 2015 will be better than 2014. Grass is always greener effect.


There are also plenty of people unaffiliated with the jaguars or bortles who labeled him as a franchise guy, such as Bruce Arians.


And on top of that, there could be multiple guys that wind up worthy of a first round grade. Carr, Bridgewater, bortles, maybe a later round guy...maybe even savage.


The point is, there were "top pick" qbs available.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

The passing game has been totally different in matt schaubs career than it was in MB's. That stat is impossible to use unless it is the reverse.


Also this draft was supposed to be way better for qbs as opposed to 2013, then all the sudden people were saying 2015 will be better than 2014. Grass is always greener effect.


There are also plenty of people unaffiliated with the jaguars or bortles who labeled him as a franchise guy, such as Bruce Arians.


And on top of that, there could be multiple guys that wind up worthy of a first round grade. Carr, Bridgewater, bortles, maybe a later round guy...maybe even savage.


The point is, there were "top pick" qbs available.

 

Plenty of people have said the 2015 QB class will be better. It's not my evaluation it's the pros saying that.

Winston,Mariota and others are projected to be better than any QB in this years draft.

   Dont act like it's just me saying it.

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Ah the old qb's are better next year. Remember that being claimed multiple years here. Then draft day comes and all their reputations have been shattered.

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Ah the old qb's are better next year. Remember that being claimed multiple years here. Then draft day comes and all their reputations have been shattered.

Old QBs are better next year? Isn't that an oxy-moron? Yeah it is........

Argue with all the pros who said it,not me.

 Fact of the matter is....? EVERY OPINION THAT MATTERS SAYS THE SAME THING. Dont take my word for it. Look it up yourself.

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