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Raiders firing Allen?

#1

Per rotoworld:

Quote:Report: Raiders firing coach Dennis Allen


Dennis Allen | OAK


(September 28, 2014 10:05 PM EDT)


The Associated Press reports the Raiders will fire coach Dennis Allen.


Reporter Terry Collins is not a typical Rotoworld source, but the AP has stringent standards. Per Collins, an announcement may not be made until Tuesday. It would be bizarre for a team to go two days between deciding to fire a coach and announcing it, but this is the Raiders, and the team is still in London following Sunday's shellacking. Allen hasn't done anything to suggest he's the man to lead the Raiders out of the mire, but anyone who's followed the situation knows GM Reggie McKenzie's persistently disastrous personnel decisions are the real problem in Oakland. Allen would be a textbook scapegoat for his boss' failings. The Raiders have been the worst-run team in football for over a decade, and there's no light at the end of the tunnel.


SOURCE: 


TERRY COLLINS ON TWITTER

Quote:Update: Raiders' Dennis Allen yet to be fired


Dennis Allen | OAK


(September 28, 2014 10:21 PM EDT)


Updating an earlier item, the Associated Press' Terry Collins has deleted his report that the Raiders are firing coach Dennis Allen.


The wording of Mr. Collins' tweet was bizarre, but we went forward since he was a reporter for the Associated Press. There is still a strong chance Allen is fired during the Raiders' Week 5 bye, but it has not happened yet. The Raiders don't depart London until Monday morning. It's unlikely any decisions will be finalized before they arrive back in Oakland.


Could end up being false. Stay tuned.
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#2

He's good as gone, don't know if I blame Dennis Allen for the debacle going on in Oakland, Reggie McKenzie is proving to be one of the worst GM's of the 2000's, he's up there with Gene Smith.


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#3

Quote:He's good as gone, don't know if I blame Dennis Allen for the debacle going on in Oakland, Reggie McKenzie is proving to be one of the worst GM's of the 2000's, he's up there with Gene Smith.
 

I agree, going through their last 5 drafts I can't recall hearing anything positive about any of these guys since they entered the league. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/te.../draft.htm

 

It's hard to make chicken salad out of chicken [BLEEP].

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#4

Everybody said the Raiders would change when Al Davis died. But is has just been more of the same. Al was notorious for signing veteran players past their prime. McKenzie this offseason signed guys like Justin Tuck, Maurice Jones-Drew and Lamar Woodley. It is like Al never died. They are rebuilding but have the oldest roster in the league.


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Quote:I agree, going through their last 5 drafts I can't recall hearing anything positive about any of these guys since they entered the league. http://www.pro-football-reference.com/te.../draft.htm

 

It's hard to make chicken salad out of chicken [BAD WORD REMOVED].
 

Just look at the QB situation, its pure incompetence. McKenzie inexplicably trades for the noodle armed Matt Flynn, then drafts Tyler Wilson in the 4th round, he then proceeds to cut both Flynn and Wilson that same year. That was 2013, in 2014 McKenzie (again) inexplicably trades for the aging washed up Matt Schaub and announces him as the team’s starter, proceeds to draft Derek Carr in the second round only to have Carr beat out the guy he traded for, Reggie McKenzie is wayyyy over his head and has been on the hotseat since the start of the 2013 season, so what does he decide to do in order to save his job? Signs a bunch of aging ineffective veterans no one else wanted, make no mistake about it, I think the Raiders have a better team than the Jaguars, but at least we’re young. They’re the oldest team in the league, I feel awful for Raider fans, a house cleaning is in order.


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(This post was last modified: 09-29-2014, 01:30 PM by jagforlife85.)

The unfortunate part for a guy like Derek Carr is his injury, it will keep him out for the foreseeable future, surely the Raiders will have a new GM and head coach next year, and surely that GM and coach will want their own QB. Carr didn't show a lot while he was in there and may not get a chance to show anything because of the injury, the 2015 QB class has a chance to be special is Jameis and Marcus declare, the Raiders and Jaguars are destined for the top two picks in the draft, Carr is screwed Imo.

 


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Quote:Just look at the QB situation, its pure incompetence. McKenzie inexplicably trades for the noodle armed Matt Flynn, then drafts Tyler Wilson in the 4th round, he then proceeds to cut both Flynn and Wilson that same year. That was 2013, in 2014 McKenzie (again) inexplicably trades for the aging washed up Matt Schaub and announces him as the team’s starter, proceeds to draft Derek Carr in the second round only to have Carr beat out the guy he traded for, Reggie McKenzie is wayyyy over his head and has been on the hotseat since the start of the 2013 season, so what does he decide to do in order to save his job? Signs a bunch of aging ineffective veterans no one else wanted, make no mistake about it, I think the Raiders have a better team than the Jaguars, but at least we’re young. They’re the oldest team in the league, I feel awful for Raider fans, a house cleaning is in order.



Sometimes you just have to blow it all up and hit the reset button. Gene tried to do the same thing and patchwork a team together. That's not how you rebuild and now the Raiders are going to have to pay for it 4 or 5 years down the line from now.
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#8

I really wouldnt be surprised if he is fired way before the season ends. Living in the area raider fans are just confused at what the team keeps doing, they seem to support their team like they should but.... The track record has not been good at all with Allen.


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#9

The Raiders continue to be a model of ineptitude. Who was the coach before Dennis Allen? I forget his name. He actually seemed to have them on the right track before he was inexplicably fired. SMH. Watching the Jags these past few seasons has been tough, but I remind myself how bad it must be to be a Raiders fan and all the sudden things don't seem so bad.
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Quote:The Raiders continue to be a model of ineptitude. Who was the coach before Dennis Allen? I forget his name. He actually seemed to have them on the right track before he was inexplicably fired. SMH. Watching the Jags these past few seasons has been tough, but I remind myself how bad it must be to be a Raiders fan and all the sudden things don't seem so bad.


Hue Jackson was the coach before he's the OC with the Bengals now
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#11

Hell, even Tom Cable had an 8-8 season and was let go.

“Motivation alone is not enough.  If you have an idiot and you motivate him,now you have a motivated idiot.” Jim Rohn

 
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#12

Quote:Hue Jackson was the coach before he's the OC with the Bengals now
 

There ya go... I kept wanting to say Phil Jackson, but I knew that couldn't be right.

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#13

Annnnnd he's fired.
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#14

Gone. He's probably thrilled.


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#15

Surely it wasn't MJD who got him fired with his 12 total yards and 1.1 ypc this season.


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#16

It is still Monday in Oakland, but Tuesday here, and this is what I saw on NFL.com:

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...us-seasons

 

Quote:By firing Allen now, the Raiders will theoretically get a head start on their next permanent hire. If Mark Davis is anything like his father, the choice will be difficult to predict. We wonder if McKenzie will still be around to see it.

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#17

Quote:Everybody said the Raiders would change when Al Davis died. But is has just been more of the same. Al was notorious for signing veteran players past their prime. McKenzie this offseason signed guys like Justin Tuck, Maurice Jones-Drew and Lamar Woodley. It is like Al never died. They are rebuilding but have the oldest roster in the league.
 

The Raiders also have the NFL's hardest schedule because of the division they are in. They had to know that while signing all of those over-the-hill players like MJD and Tuck.

 

Obviously until McKenzie is fired, the team will have a top 10 pick in the draft.

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Quote:The Raiders also have the NFL's hardest schedule because of the division they are in. They had to know that while signing all of those over-the-hill players like MJD and Tuck.

 

Obviously until McKenzie is fired, the team will have a top 10 pick in the draft.
 

More than anything,  the Raiders need new ownership.  


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#19

Quote:Hue Jackson was the coach before he's the OC with the Bengals now
 

Hue Jackson was one of the Raiders better coaches since Jon Gruden.   His failing was making football front office type of decisions,  as the trade for Carson Palmer made no sense from the moment it was executed.    That trade is a significant reason why Jackson's current team is in very good shape.  


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#20

Quote:Hue Jackson was one of the Raiders better coaches since Jon Gruden. His failing was making football front office type of decisions, as the trade for Carson Palmer made no sense from the moment it was executed. That trade is a significant reason why Jackson's current team is in very good shape.  
 

What does the Carson to Oakland trade have to do with Cincinnati's current success? Palmer is in Arizona, in case you haven't heard.

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