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Mel Tucker

#21

Quote:I think that's the only reason he got hired here too!  They were at North Dakota State together.   And our O-coordinator seems to have gotten his job the same way.

 

Of course I hope they were just the only guys Bradley could convince to come here, and he intends to upgrade the Defensive Coordinator position next year, and the Offensive Coordinator position if our offense continues to falter.
 

Bradley's cronies are all over this assistant staff. 

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#22
(This post was last modified: 10-11-2014, 04:21 PM by The Mad Dog.)

Quote:Well I guess Belichick is guilty of nepotism too. I mean he hired Weis and Crennel mainly because they were his friends right?
 

Its fine when you actually hire actual quality assistants. The Patriots won a LOT with those 2 at OC/ DC respectively. 

 

When the crony hires yield the 32nd and 31st offense/ defense in the league after 21 games....then its becoming clear that those cronies aren't that good of hires. 


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#23

Quote:Bradley's cronies are all over this assistant staff. 
 

Just like your boy BOB in Houston. Crennel, Godsey, Vrabel. Surrounded by cronies.

 

I'll await your excuse for why O'Brien is different.

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#24

Quote:Its fine when you actually hire actual quality assistants. The Patriots won a LOT with those 2 at OC/ DC respectively. 

 

When the crony hires yield the 32nd and 31st offense/ defense in the league after 21 games....then its becoming clear that those cronies aren't that good of hires. 
 

The year before Crennel was hired in New England, his defense in Cleveland was among the worst in the league.

 

Just like they have been throughout most of his coaching career.

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#25

Quote:Just like your boy BOB in Houston. Crennel, Godsey, Vrabel. Surrounded by cronies.

 

I'll await your excuse for why O'Brien is different.
 

again, see my point about results. 

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#26
(This post was last modified: 10-11-2014, 04:27 PM by The Mad Dog.)

Quote:The year before Crennel was hired in New England, his defense in Cleveland was among the worst in the league.

 

Just like they have been throughout most of his coaching career.
 

They won in New England with him. Thats all that matters. 

 

Gus' cronies are doing horrible here except for Wash and Scelfo. Jerry Sullivan is doing a good job too, but is one of the few non-crony hires. 


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#27

Quote:again, see my point about results. 
 

This is hilarious.

 

What results? Houston is 3-3. 

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#28

Quote:This is hilarious.

 

What results? Houston is 3-3. 
 

A .500 record in their first year is somehow bad? For a team that went 2-14 the year prior?...

 

LOL Bradley's staff was 0-6 at the same point. 

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#29
(This post was last modified: 10-11-2014, 04:30 PM by thunderbuns.)

It's only "cronies" when it's not your "rec's". We get it.


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#30

Quote:A .500 record in their first year is somehow bad? For a team that went 2-14 the year prior?...

 

LOL Bradley's staff was 0-6 at the same point. 
 

Who said it was bad?

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#31

Quote:This is hilarious.

 

What results? Houston is 3-3. 
 

 

Quote:Who said it was bad?
 

your words above aren't implying that??? 

 

okeee....

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#32

Quote:Mel Tucker was ok here. Nothing extraordinary. But to be honest, I would take Tucker right now over your former defensive coordinator Babich.
 

This is my thought as well.  He was really pretty average or slightly below but I would take him every day and twice on Sunday's over Babich.

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#33

Nobody (including me) said it was bad. But it is completely ridiculous to act like 6 games proves that coaching staff hires were correct or not. But that has never stopped you before.


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#34

Quote:Yes. Sometimes nepotism works out. That doesn't change the fact that Mike Smith was [probably] hired mainly because he was JDR's friend.
 

Hiring coaches you have worked with is not nepotism. It's also nothing new.

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#35

Quote:Hiring coaches you have worked with is not nepotism. It's also nothing new.
 

Exactly.  Every single HC hires coaches he's worked with in the past as well as others he knows and trusts.  It's very, very common. 

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#36

Quote:Exactly.  Every single HC hires coaches he's worked with in the past as well as others he knows and trusts.  It's very, very common. 
 

It's probably more uncommon for a coach to hire a guy (particularly coordinators and high level coaches) that he's not worked with before.

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#37

Quote:It's probably more uncommon for a coach to hire a guy (particularly coordinators and high level coaches) that he's not worked with before.
 

Definitely. When Jimmy Johnson went from Miami to the Cowboys, he brought Wannstedt, Butch Davis and Dave Campo with him.

 

But when Bradley does it..."CRONIES!" "NEPOTISM!".

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#38

Quote:It's probably more uncommon for a coach to hire a guy (particularly coordinators and high level coaches) that he's not worked with before.
Agreed. I almost typed that into my prior post.

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#39

Quote:A .500 record in their first year is somehow bad? For a team that went 2-14 the year prior?...

 

LOL Bradley's staff was 0-6 at the same point. 

That 2-14 team lost 8 of those games by a touchdown or less.  I'd hold off on the O'Brien praise just yet.

 

Quote:Exactly.  Every single HC hires coaches he's worked with in the past as well as others he knows and trusts.  It's very, very common. 
 

There's no denying that.  I just think it's a bad thing, and isn't helpful.  I mean if they're not the best people for the job, isn't it going to hurt the team?  If they are, it won't matter.  But I think it's becoming incredibly difficult for rising OC and DC's to get jobs as OC's and DC's because of it.  And eventually that's going to lead to a lack of good head coaches out there when all the older guys retire.

I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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#40

Quote:There's no denying that.  I just think it's a bad thing, and isn't helpful.  I mean if they're not the best people for the job, isn't it going to hurt the team?  If they are, it won't matter.  But I think it's becoming incredibly difficult for rising OC and DC's to get jobs as OC's and DC's because of it.  And eventually that's going to lead to a lack of good head coaches out there when all the older guys retire.
 

Based on what? It certainly has not hurt Harbaugh in San Francisco.

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