One of the best posts/topics I've read in the past few days.

LOL! Has your mind melded onto that of a klingons?

Only a complete homer that is completely lost all willingness to think logically would ever say Bradley, based on what we've seen, can ever extrapolate out to be a coach like Walsh, Noll, Landry, or Belecheat.

First off, I believe they all had WAY more experience coaching prior to getting their first head coaching gig.

Secondly, just because a rookie HC has the same record of some HOF coaches does not create a link that the rookie is going to become a great HC.

To be honest, most HC's that start off this poorly wind up never becoming a HC again.

And this is the best post you've read in a long time... Only if you just like to read fluff and not think critically. LOL

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Years coaching in the NFL prior to first NFL head coaching job:

Gus Bradley: 4

Tom Landry: 6

Chuck Noll: 9

Bill Walsh: 9 (plus 2 years as HC @ Stanford prior to getting the HC job in SF)

Bilecheat: 16

But yeah, Bradley with his 4 years is totally gonna be one of the all time greats... PHSHHHHHH

Dude, I'm as much a fan as anyone. But c'mon, let's all get a grip here.

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LOL! Has your mind melded onto that of a klingons?


Only a complete homer that is completely lost all willingness to think logically would ever say Bradley, based on what we've seen, can ever extrapolate out to be a coach like Walsh, Noll, Landry, or Belecheat.


First off, I believe they all had WAY more experience coaching prior to getting their first head coaching gig.


Secondly, just because a rookie HC has the same record of some HOF coaches does not create a link that the rookie is going to become a great HC.


To be honest, most HC's that start off this poorly wind up never becoming a HC again.


And this is the best post you've read in a long time... Only if you just like to read fluff and not think critically. LOL

I agree, but you are wasting your finger typing. You are going to hear two things, "knee jerk" and "more time."

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Consistency is key imo..

 

The Jaguars with Gus HAVE been consistent.

 

Unfortunately, it has been the wrong kind of consistency.

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I survived the Gus Bradley Error.

The Jaguars with Gus HAVE been consistent.


Unfortunately, is has been the wrong kind of consistency.

Hahaha. I love this message board.

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Hahaha. I love this message board.

 

lol, me too.

 

Where else can Jags fans find some things to laugh about in the midst of another horrible start to a Jags season.

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I survived the Gus Bradley Error.

The Jaguars with Gus HAVE been consistent.

 

Unfortunately, is has been the wrong kind of consistency.

 

lol, its funny because its true. 

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#2 - Teams that keep firing/hiring coaches every 2 years on average do keep sucking. Feel free to look that up from the last 10 years.

 

 

You're confusing cause and effect. Teams that suck tend to hire bad coaches that need to be replaced. The sucking comes down from the top. Secondly, good coaches will show promise in year two and will thus not be fired, so there's a selection effect in the process. If you keep hiring bad coaches, keeping them longer is not going to help your team. The 49ers went through three bad coaches before they hired Harbaugh. They kept him, does that suddenly make them a smart team? Or is it just because he actually won in his first two seasons and even the Browns wouldn't be crazy enough to cut him after that? By your logic the 49ers should have stuck with Singletary (or Nolan, or Erickson).


 

Gus hasn't shown any promise this year. The team hasn't improved much over last year's disaster, not in the record, nor the O/D rankings. He has no previous track record as a head coach, and only 4 years as a coordinator, of which only two were above bad. His successor did even better, implying that Gus was not the reason the Seattle defense was so good in 2011 and 2012.


 

If he turns the team around in these next 10 games, then great. If he doesn't, then apparently the Jags are one of those teams that suck from the top down. Didn't anyone see that hiring an inexperienced coach to develop a bunch of inexperienced players was a recipe for disaster?

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

You're confusing cause and effect. Teams that suck tend to hire bad coaches that need to be replaced. The sucking comes down from the top. Secondly, good coaches will show promise in year two and will thus not be fired, so there's a selection effect in the process. If you keep hiring bad coaches, keeping them longer is not going to help your team.


 

Exactly. 


 

Its amazing how embarrassingly clueless some people are that they think keeping a bad coach will eventually work out. 


 

<b><i>Success breeds continuity, not the other way around. </i></b>

 

<b><i>Certain Jags fans on this board honestly believe its the opposite :wacko: </i></b>

 

 

The 49ers went through three bad coaches before they hired Harbaugh. They kept him, does that suddenly make them a smart team? Or is it just because he actually won in his first two seasons and even the Browns wouldn't be crazy enough to cut him after that? By your logic the 49ers should have stuck with Singletary (or Nolan, or Erickson).


 

Agreed. Although for reasons unknown to man, the 49ers are indeed rumored to be parting ways with Harbaugh at seasons end. 


 

 

Gus hasn't shown any promise this year. The team hasn't improved much over last year's disaster, not in the record, nor the O/D rankings. He has no previous track record as a head coach, and only 4 years as a coordinator, of which only two were above bad. His successor did even better, implying that Gus was not the reason the Seattle defense was so good in 2011 and 2012.


 

Agreed again. 


 

As a matter of fact the Seattle defense didn't start to really improve until Pete Carroll arrived. Not only that, but it didn't peak until Gus Bradley was gone. I remember in 2012 in the divisional playoffs, Bradley's defense almost choked up a loss after blowing a huge lead to the Falcons in the second half. Their OFFENSE had to save the day with a late score. Good for Bradley that Mike Smith's defense equally sucked. 


 

If he turns the team around in these next 10 games, then great. If he doesn't, then apparently the Jags are one of those teams that suck from the top down. Didn't anyone see that hiring an inexperienced coach to develop a bunch of inexperienced players was a recipe for disaster?

 

Caldwell went too strictly in following the Atlanta plan by choosing Bradley. It was his version of Mike Smith. Although Mike Smith in all reality isn't that great either. If the Falcons fire him at seasons end and the Jags have an opening I hope to God we don't make the mistake of hiring Mike Smith. If thats the level of "upgrade" you're settling for, then you might as well not make any changes at all. 

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Caldwell went too strictly in following the Atlanta plan by choosing Bradley. It was his version of Mike Smith. Although Mike Smith in all reality isn't that great either. If the Falcons fire him at seasons end and the Jags have an opening I hope to God we don't make the mistake of hiring Mike Smith. If thats the level of "upgrade" you're settling for, then you might as well not make any changes at all. 

Yeah. I don't see Mike Smith coming back. Like you said, mind as we'll stick with Bradley. If Bradley doesn't work out, we need a successful experienced HC. Let's just hope Bradley turns this around bc I'm sick of losing. I have a strange feeling BB will save his job once the team drafts/gets better players.

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Thats exactly what it does sound like. 

 

Sad that we have people that willfully defend him. 

 

Hey now!  I defended Costanza!

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In order to rebuild, you have to destroy.

No. The late game field goal decision on 3rd down with 12 seconds as well as the in game clock management and game management crap is all on Bradley. Tom Coughlin wasn't making those mistakes his first year as a Jags coach, let alone his second. The assistant staff he chose is also horrible for the most part, led by the Coordinator choices.


Sometimes you just gotta accept that the guy we hired for head coach is crap and bite the bullet.

You should have listened to Boselli and Prisco Monday. Tom WAS making mistakes like that even in 1999.


Kicking it w 12 left was the right call. Not having a time out there because of a bad challenge was not.

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Bill Walsh -  He was 8-24 in his first two seasons as 49ers head coach. 13-3 in his 3rd.

 

Chuck Noll - 12-31 in his first THREE seasons as steelers head coach. 11-3 in his 4th.

 

Tom Landry - 18-46 in his first FIVE seasons as dallas' head coach. Didn't have a winning record till' his 7th season then lit the world on fire.

 

Bill Belichick - 20-28 in his first three seasons as browns coach then 11-5 the next year.

 

 

Why should you care? These guys are or will be in the hall of fame as head coaches. Some even consider this bunch to be littered in the top 5 lists of head coaches all time.

 

Am I saying bradley is going to join this list? No. Im saying Quit whining and knee jerking like little babies. Lets have this play out 3 full seasons before we start demanding firings.

Instant satisfaction decade for society, because Gus Bradley isnt throwing a tantrum at the games then he must agree with failure?  

I think it would be a huge mistake to fire Gus at this point of the season... let him finish and judge him then if you must but you will gain nothing by firing him at week 7 and beyond...

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