I work with a guy who not only doesn't have sex with his 'wife', she doesn't live with him either.  He lives on the Westside, she lives at the beaches.  She doesn't work and he pays all of her bills.  Then, to add insult to injury, she took his truck and makes him drive her old crappy 4 Runner.  He lives paycheck to paycheck with maxed out credit cards.  The thing is, he's not a bad guy.  Just mind-numbingly desperate and spineless.

If he's dumb enough to let her get away with that...shame on him!!

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

I suppose when you toss a grenade you stand next to it to see what happens.

So you admit it.  Gotcha!

 

I don't throw grenades, but then again, I'm not in a Dutch biker gang.

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So you admit it.  Gotcha!

 

I don't throw grenades, but then again, I'm not in a Dutch biker gang.

 

You misread/heard, he's in a Dutch diker gang. You know, the Finger in the Dike saviors of the country.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

You misread/heard, he's in a Dutch diker gang. You know, the Finger in the Dike saviors of the country.

 

Sounds pretty butch.

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“An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato

 

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We weren't put on this earth to "be happy". 
 
We were put on this earth to marry. pro-create and raise families. Can same sex marriages pro-create? Nope. The only way same sex marriages can pro-create is by going outside the marriage. 
 
 
Man has selfishly rearranged the rules to suit man. 
 
 
Am I going to "live and let live"? Yep. If you want to get married to a person of the same sex, go ahead. 
 
 
But me?....do I believe in "traditional marriage"? Yep. And those that do, theres nothing wrong with that. Despite what the agenda is trying to force. 
 

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Do you have children? Should all "Traditional married" couples have children? I happen to have a child with my partner that we adopted that wasn't wanted by his parents. We got him at 6 moths old. He just turned 9 and is a happy, healthy, smart very well adjusted child. Very popular in school, can't decide which girl he likes more Jasmine or Hannah and makes straight A's. I have a good job, many friends and my persoal life harms no one.

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as time goes on, the younger generations are more open to same sex marriage than the older generations.

 

So will that mean the generation that comes after you will be open to [BAD WORD REMOVED]?

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Whether someone has a liberal, or conservative viewpoint, a authoritative figure should not lock a thread for the sole purpose to get the last word in all the while prohibiting someone else from being able to respond.

So will that mean the generation that comes after you will be open to [BAD WORD REMOVED]?

 

That's ridiculous. 

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

That's ridiculous. 

 

How?

 

Remember when that same thing was said about Same sex marriage 20-30 years ago?

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Whether someone has a liberal, or conservative viewpoint, a authoritative figure should not lock a thread for the sole purpose to get the last word in all the while prohibiting someone else from being able to respond.

How?

 

Remember when that same thing was said about Same sex marriage 20-30 years ago?

 

consenting adults isn't near the same issue as bestiality, It's a weak argument I hear from the religious community all the time.

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How?

 

Remember when that same thing was said about Same sex marriage 20-30 years ago?

 

If the comparison was something like the difference between attitudes towards interracial marriages 30 years ago and now, it's a reasonable discussion. You're talking about sexual acts between humans and different species.

 

It's a stupid.argument.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

Guess if we spell it right it's censored? I was referring to the animal and human marriage term in the above response.

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consenting adults isn't near the same issue as [BAD WORD REMOVED], It's a weak argument I hear from the religious community all the time.

 

The funny thing is, the argument goes in the other direction much better

 

So you want to ban gay marriage?  What's next, banning bacon and blended fabrics?

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

If the comparison was something like the difference between attitudes towards interracial marriages 30 years ago and now, it's a reasonable discussion. You're talking about sexual acts between humans and different species.

 

It's a stupid.argument.

 

So are you going to bury your head in the sand and act like [BAD WORD REMOVED] dosent exist?

 

You keep saying the argument is stupid as if you are uncomfortable discussing that topic as well. 

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Whether someone has a liberal, or conservative viewpoint, a authoritative figure should not lock a thread for the sole purpose to get the last word in all the while prohibiting someone else from being able to respond.

So are you going to bury your head in the sand and act like [BAD WORD REMOVED] dosent exist?

 

You keep saying the argument is stupid as if you are uncomfortable discussing that topic as well. 

 

What? How in the world do you arrive at that conclusion from what I posted?

 

What I am saying is that the evolution of society's acceptance of sexual relations between humans has nothing to do with acceptance of sexual relations between human and animals.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

So are you going to bury your head in the sand and act like [BAD WORD REMOVED] dosent exist?

 

You keep saying the argument is stupid as if you are uncomfortable discussing that topic as well. 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...hoice.html

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/20...legal.html

 

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/timsta...advocates/

 

 

When Man is no different than animal, civilization can no longer exist.

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There's a reason the word is filtered, it's best we not delve too deeply into this particular tangent.

 

I'm to blame for letting it get this far, my posts aren't filtered and so I did not realize the word is filtered.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

So if we're going to ban gay marriage, are we also going to start punishing adultery by stoning?  I know some countries have the death penalty for adultery.  I guess they're just more civilized than us.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

So if we're going to ban gay marriage, are we also going to start punishing adultery by stoning?  I know some countries have the death penalty for adultery.  I guess they're just more civilized than us.

 

I get stoned every time I think about a woman, just to be safe.

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If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.
- Bob Marley


 

What? How in the world do you arrive at that conclusion from what I posted?

 

What I am saying is that the evolution of society's acceptance of sexual relations between humans has nothing to do with acceptance of sexual relations between human and animals.

 

So are we not going to act like sexual relations between same sex couples and sexual relations between humans and animals are immoral?  That was the whole point in my response to Achilles in the first place.

 

There are parallels between zoophilia and homosexuality. First, in the beginning homosexuality was considered a "dark pleasure", and people exploring their "Sexual curiosities". Which then extended into a movement of people wanting to further explore and indulge without fear of reprisal. 

 

Ironically, people who engage in zoophilia, or bestiality are making the same arguments the Gay and Lesbian communities were making back in the 1970's and 1980's, see Jagswilldestroyou's link. 

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Whether someone has a liberal, or conservative viewpoint, a authoritative figure should not lock a thread for the sole purpose to get the last word in all the while prohibiting someone else from being able to respond.

There's a reason the word is filtered, it's best we not delve too deeply into this particular tangent.

 

I'm to blame for letting it get this far, my posts aren't filtered and so I did not realize the word is filtered.

 

 

You already won this argument as well because of censorship, if people who feel differently cant speak out why keep this thread open?

 

So we can talk about Same sex marriage and not talk about the concerns of other secret immoral behaviors? 

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Whether someone has a liberal, or conservative viewpoint, a authoritative figure should not lock a thread for the sole purpose to get the last word in all the while prohibiting someone else from being able to respond.