Nothing wrong with a good Agatha Christie mystery.

 

I just wish the Jags games had more mystery/drama to them, because right now it seems we already know the ending not long after the game starts.

 

A little more mystery/drama would be a welcome change.

I know what you mean. My feeling is that, while it's true that the Jag's have been stinking out loud most of this season, I think there is reason to remain optimistic about the future of the club. We're crummy right now primarily because we have so many rookies (players and coaches)... not exactly a news flash; but this very fact will work to the Jags advantage in years to come if we can just stick to the plan. 

I realize that I'm not 'in vogue' by ranting and raving about how awful the Jags are right now. It's just that I see little value in being redundant. Sooner or later, this team is gonna' get all it's stuff in one bag... and then watch out!

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I y'ams who I y'ams and thats all I y'ams...

I don't think they could be this bad on purpose.

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Be optimistic about the future because of what? Nothing good has happened to this franchise in a minute and this new regime isn't proving jack that looks like that is changing anytime soon. I guess you mean have blind optimism if you just want to be positive about this disaster.

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Be optimistic about the future because of what? Nothing good has happened to this franchise in a minute and this new regime isn't proving jack that looks like that is changing anytime soon. I guess you mean have blind optimism if you just want to be positive about this disaster.

If it's so bad, leave. Nobody will notice.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

I agree FBT... what do we have if we are not optimistic? Even the best teams can lose by 20+

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I don't think we have to try to lose.

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I ain't no monkey... I'm an ape.

The only hope we can have is that we will turnout like the Patriots. Believe it or not, their fans wore paper bags on their heads at a point in their franchise history.

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The only hope we can have is that we will turnout like the Patriots. Believe it or not, their fans wore paper bags on their heads at a point in their franchise history.

 

Dang, I had a long researched reply typed out but hit a wrong button and it disappeared.  In a shorter summary:

 

The Pats were in Superbowl XX and got demolished by the 85 Bears.  That started a downfall for them.  I think they went 8 or 9 years after that point without a playoff appearance.  They went 1-15 in 1990.  In the late 80's or early 90's they went through several ownership changes before finally being owned by Kraft in 1994.  Parcells came around in 1993 along with #1 pick franchise guy Drew Bledsoe.  The success began again.

 

They also went through uniform and logo changes in the early 1990's with a few tweaks in the years after that.

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Be optimistic about the future because of what? Nothing good has happened to this franchise in a minute and this new regime isn't proving jack that looks like that is changing anytime soon. I guess you mean have blind optimism if you just want to be positive about this disaster.

Hey, it's your thing, do what'cha wanna' do. I can't tell ya... who to sock it too....

Seriously... if your post really expresses your thinking about the Jags, (and who am I to change your mind?) then it sort'a begs the question; why continue following them? That question aside, I am not (neither have I ever been) an advocate of 'blind optimism'. As I said earlier, I do see reason for some optimism.

 

1. We have an owner who wants to put his team in the same category as perennial contenders like the packers or patriots. He has the financial 'wherewithal' to help facilitate that.

2. We have a young and ambitious GM who wants very much to make a name for himself as a GM and has some positive credentials to go with it.

3. We have a head coach who was eagerly sought by other 'winning' teams to be their head coach. He is thought to have been the best choice that was available at the time we were looking. He is (by the way) wearing a super bowl ring as a coach...

4. Those teams who are year after year contenders built their winning teams via the draft! We're following the example of winning teams in what we're doing.

5. We DO have a bunch of very young rookies. All of them have demonstrated the core skills to play in the NFL (or they wouldn't be here now). Some of them have demonstrated real 'upside' potential to become franchise players. We're building the ground work for a team that can be really good for years!

 

So, there are reasons to base some optimism on. Of course, the downside of our situation is that after years of really bad drafting, veterans who were R O A D being allowed to stay here, and a less than competent staff who were facilitating all this... the team had to be gutted like a fish in order to 'fix it'. We are still suffering the side effects of being gutted and rebuilding from scratch. It's tough on the fan base to have to endure this after having already endured about seven years of bad football; it's frustrating because we've heard the rhetoric of 'next year' and 'we're rebuilding' used by the previous regime too often as excuses for lame performance... and we're hearing 'next year' and 'we're rebuilding' again; but unlike the last GM who brought in players like Blaine Gabbert and was drafting punters in the third round... this GM seems to have a handle on the situation and is moving us in the right direction. 'In the right direction' shouldn't be confused with 'we've arrived'; we haven't... yet. But we have all the markings of a team that is doing the hard stuff that will eventually lead them to NFL prominence.

 

It's up to you if you want to stick around for the ride.... As FBT already said, you can leave and no one will even notice you've gone. (by the way, FBT has made that same remark to me before too...)

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I y'ams who I y'ams and thats all I y'ams...

Bump. This is a relevant question right now.

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No, they don't lose on purpose. They just suck.

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Make the Jags Great Again
Blake Bortles......YOU'RE FIRED!
Dave Caldwell.....YOU'RE FIRED!

If it's so bad, leave. Nobody will notice.

Actually, the Jags should be trying to keep fans - yes, someone will notice.  We need all the fans we can get...

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I guess Scobee gave you the answer to this dumb question

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Again....this is a relevant question. Do we do this on purpose?

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Again....this is a relevant question. Do we do this on purpose?

Yes - Dave is setting us up for a RGIII type deal in the draft.  

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