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Jameis Winston hearing at noon today


Quote:She hasn't exactly been consistent. Once she pursued it yes, but as from Winston's testimony they tried to go after him for $7 million. You don't think she has anything to gain? Just as her staying consistent (up to a point) doesn't mean Jameis is guilty, her going after $7 million doesn't mean she is guilty.


How do we know his attorney doesn't want to settle first? Nobody knows the back room shenanigans of these guys.
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I can't even get interested in that story or read through this thread.  Jameis hooked up with a wacko that was pissed that she turned out to be a 1 night stand.  It happens.  

 

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Quote:Abuse from the media? What abuse has she taken? Almost everything that has been written about this has been written from her side making Jameis look like the villain.


And how in the world has she remained consistent? Her story of what happened that night has changed four times. She's been consistently inconsistent if anything.


When Jameis is found innocent, she deserves everything she gets.


You play dumb a lot.


Two girls have come forward that something sexual in nature scarred both of them in some way, but you want to make it seem like he's a choir boy.


Your hate for a girl that you don't really know the truth about weekday happened that night is disgusting.
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Quote:The ol story has changed 4 times. Its like she says she had red nail polish on as opposed to pink and everyone's like omg! How can we believe anything she has said!??!?!!


There are also many studies out they're that women who have been raped change their storey because of the trauma they've gone through. ...FSU fans will continue to shame her into hiding.
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Quote:There are also many studies out they're that women who have been raped change their storey because of the trauma they've gone through. ...FSU fans will continue to shame her into hiding.
 

It's more likely a rape victims story will "change" over time than stay the same. So whoever is defending Winston by bringing it this up is shooting himself in the foot. 

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Quote:How do we know his attorney doesn't want to settle first? Nobody knows the back room shenanigans of these guys.


No one knows. Correct. All we can do is speculate

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(This post was last modified: 12-04-2014, 10:25 PM by jtmoney.)

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.avoiceformalestudents.com/avfms-mega-post-10-reasons-false-rape-accusations-are-common/'>http://www.avoiceformalestudents.com/avfms-mega-post-10-reasons-false-rape-accusations-are-common/</a>


I thought this was an interesting article and yes I realize this comes from a voice for male students so take it with a grain of salt. The biggest thing that jumped out at me is what the prosecutor who prosecuting many rapists said. People always say why would someone put themselves through this, etc... but there are many studies that have concluded false rape claims are much higher than other crimes. The problem is we just don't know. Now this doesn't necessarily have anything to do with Winston and his accuser. But I think it is important to know that false rape claims are much higher than the 2%-8% figure that gets thrown around.

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Ive always thought, and Winston said in his statement yesterday, that if a rape claim was made and found to be false then that person should serve the same punishment that a convicted rapist would.
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Quote:Ive always thought, and Winston said in his statement yesterday, that if a rape claim was made and found to be false then that person should serve the same punishment that a convicted rapist would.


It's just tough to prove either way especially in a case like this. Met before, voluntarily goes with him, no physical signs of trama, gave oral (which is tough to force someone to do)... doesn't mean she wasn't raped, but I mean how in the heck do you convict someone of it?

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If she was being raped, why didn't Casher and Darby step in and help her? If she had been raped, why did she let him take her home on his scooter?
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Quote:There are also many studies out they're that women who have been raped change their storey because of the trauma they've gone through. ...FSU fans will continue to shame her into hiding.


I know this. She was also intoxicated, possibly on drugs.
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Quote:I know this. She was also intoxicated, possibly on drugs.


Toxicology report showed she was neither drunk nor on drugs.
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Quote:Toxicology report showed she was neither drunk nor on drugs.


When was that test done, again? Refresh my memory...
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(This post was last modified: 12-04-2014, 10:56 PM by UCF Knight.)

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Quote:If she was being raped, why didn't Casher and Darby step in and help her? If she had been raped, why did she let him take her home on his scooter?


You mean the guys video taping the incident, so he took her to the bathroom and who knows what happened there?


Or the scooter where her off nowhere near her place? What a gentleman.


If you had a daughter his age, would you be ok worth him taking her out? After all that he's done, beyond the accusations, I wouldn't.
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Quote:If she was being raped, why didn't Casher and Darby step in and help her? If she had been raped, why did she let him take her home on his scooter?


So they met before but she had to put her number in his phone and ask him his name that night?
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Quote:It's just tough to prove either way especially in a case like this. Met before, voluntarily goes with him, no physical signs of trama, gave oral (which is tough to force someone to do)... doesn't mean she wasn't raped, but I mean how in the heck do you convict someone of it?



Let's not pretend that you can't give oral and still say no to letting them get to the goodie box. That's how some girls remain "virgins" and keep their boyfriends happy...


Agreeing to one sexual act doesn't mean consent to them all.
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(This post was last modified: 12-05-2014, 09:25 AM by David4499.)

I remember back in the 90's the government put out a big "Date Rape" awareness program which was later scrapped by the G.W.Bush administration. More than likely a republican plot to socially keep man above woman.

 

WIKI: "Date rape is a subset of acquaintance rape. The two phrases are often used interchangeably, but date rape specifically refers to a rape in which there has been some sort of romantic or potentially sexual relationship between the two parties, whereas acquaintance rape also includes rapes in which the victim and perpetrator have been in a non-romantic, non-sexual relationship, for example as co-workers or neighbours.<sup>[1]</sup><sup>[2]</sup><sup>[3]</sup><sup>[4]</sup><sup>[5]</sup><sup>[6]</sup> Date rape is particularly prevalent on college campuses, where it frequently occurs in situations involving alcohol or other drugs referred to as date rape drugs in such context"

 

Is this Winston case not the classic example date rape? It's the one phrase I haven't heard them use.


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Quote:Let's not pretend that you can't give oral and still say no to letting them get to the goodie box. That's how some girls remain "virgins" and keep their boyfriends happy...


Agreeing to one sexual act doesn't mean consent to them all.


So she wasn't consenting when she was on top of him?
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Quote:You mean the guys video taping the incident, so he took her to the bathroom and who knows what happened there?


Or the scooter where her off nowhere near her place? What a gentleman.


If you had a daughter his age, would you be ok worth him taking her out? After all that he's done, beyond the accusations, I wouldn't.
Didn't the video tape somehow get erased?

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