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Jameis Winston hearing at noon today


Quote:Wow....you hate women too?
 

I hate feminists.

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(This post was last modified: 12-05-2014, 10:56 AM by jtmoney.)

Quote:Yes because what he said happened in the bathroom is 100%. I mean if something bad happened in that bathroom, why would he lie about it?

You asked why he would do that. He gave an explanation. You are the one choosing what to believe. I don't know what happened. You made it sound like there was no reasonable explanation. His door wouldn't lock and Casher and Darby came in twice. He took it to the bathroom because the door locked. Reasonable explanation? Yes. Is that the reason? I don't know.

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Quote:Since she had sex with her boyfriend earlier in the day, I highly doubt she was a virgin. But I wasnt talking about her...I was just using that as an example.


Then it doesn't seem like a very good example, does it?

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Quote:And no one questions her character at all. Womyn rule!



Sure...why don't you first tell us how awful his character is for having a girlfriend and "hooking up" on the side...repeatedly from the accounts of his room mates liking to watch and join in.
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Quote:I'm not saying he did it....where have I once said he did it?


I'm saying there are too many loose ends for your fan base to defend him until the end. There is not just one girl who has said something that involved sex happened with Jameis but two.


Again, there are many people that specialize in rape counseling that have said that women who have been raped change their story due to the trauma. They'll forget things that happened and then remember them later. JT Money will downplay the only 2 to 8% of rapes are false accusations that the professionals give because one person says its not true.


I didn't down play it. There is a lot of research to back it up. My guess is you haven't done any. You keep saying you aren't saying he did it, but you sound like you are saying he did it. What exactly are you saying?

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Quote:I'm not saying he did it....where have I once said he did it?

 

I'm saying there are too many loose ends for your fan base to defend him until the end.  There is not just one girl who has said something that involved sex happened with Jameis but two.  

 

Again, there are many people that specialize in rape counseling that have said that women who have been raped change their story due to the trauma.  They'll forget things that happened and then remember them later.  JT Money will downplay the only 2 to 8% of rapes are false accusations that the professionals give because one person says its not true.
 

You've certainly argued against Winston enough for your thoughts on the matter to be known. This particular case reads like remorse charges. She has a boyfriend but cheats on him with a football player. It couldn't be that she willfully made the choice to cheat, the guy raped her. And the fat check at the end makes it all worthwhile.

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Quote:Sure...why don't you first tell us how awful his character is for having a girlfriend and "hooking up" on the side...repeatedly from the accounts of his room mates liking to watch and join in.
 

He has awful character for cheating on his alleged girlfriend. That doesn't make him a rapist.

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Quote:Then it doesn't seem like a very good example, does it?



As an example of why you'd give a BJ and not have sex...it's a perfect example. Sorry you couldn't understand that....
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Quote:He has awful character for cheating on his alleged girlfriend. That doesn't make him a rapist.



Now it's "alleged" girlfriend? And no one said it made him a rapist, just liking having sex with your partner doesn't mean you can't get raped later.
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Quote:You asked why he would do that. He gave an explanation. You are the one choosing what to believe. I don't know what happened. You made it sound like there was no reasonable explanation. His door wouldn't lock and Casher and Darby came in twice. He took it to the bathroom because the door locked. Reasonable explanation? Yes. Is that the reason? I don't know.
 

You are right, I'm choosing to question a guy that has had two women say something weird happened with him.  I'm questioning why the video vanished into thin air when all this was brought to the polices attention.  Do I think that explanation is reasonable, yes....but I still dont understand why a girl that is lying (I know you'll all say cash, but at some point public ridicule makes the value of the money diminish) would continue on with this.  It could have been dropped long ago.

 

How am I wrong in questioning any of this?

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Quote:I didn't down play it. There is a lot of research to back it up. My guess is you haven't done any. You keep saying you aren't saying he did it, but you sound like you are saying he did it. What exactly are you saying?



And you keep saying you don't know what really happened that night but you sound like you know he didn't do it...
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Quote:I didn't down play it. There is a lot of research to back it up. My guess is you haven't done any. You keep saying you aren't saying he did it, but you sound like you are saying he did it. What exactly are you saying?
 

I'm questioning it because there are a lot of unexplained details out there.

 

As far as research there is a plethora of information on why women dont go to the police about rape, why they dont pursue it if they do, why they would lie about it, or how their story changes through the process of it.

 

I guess this makes me a feminist? lol

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Quote:Now it's "alleged" girlfriend? And no one said it made him a rapist, just liking having sex with your partner doesn't mean you can't get raped later.
 

I don't know that he had a girlfriend at the time. I'd hate to be accused of making things up.

 

Having sex with your partner and then going home with another guy to hook up later seems to say something about her character.

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Quote:And you keep saying you don't know what really happened that night but you sound like you know he didn't do it...
 

his story keeps changing. hmmm

 

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Quote:but I still dont understand why a girl that is lying (I know you'll all say cash, but at some point public ridicule makes the value of the money diminish)
 

They say money can't buy happiness, but I'm sure she'd rather cry in her new Mercedes.

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Quote:You are right, I'm choosing to question a guy that has had two women say something weird happened with him.  I'm questioning why the video vanished into thin air when all this was brought to the polices attention.  Do I think that explanation is reasonable, yes....but I still dont understand why a girl that is lying (I know you'll all say cash, but at some point public ridicule makes the value of the money diminish) would continue on with this.  It could have been dropped long ago.

 

How am I wrong in questioning any of this?



Funny how they keep trying to say this was her goal from the start because he's famous, but then keep telling us he was a nobody that hadn't even started a game yet when talking about the police protecting him.
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Quote:I don't know that he had a girlfriend at the time. I'd hate to be accused of making things up.

 

Having sex with your partner and then going home with another guy to hook up later seems to say something about her character.
 

according to her, she didn't want to go home with Jameis

 

what does it say about Jameis character that he sends multiple women to counseling after weird sexual encounters, and he steals from publix?

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Quote:I don't know that he had a girlfriend at the time. I'd hate to be accused of making things up.

 

Having sex with your partner and then going home with another guy to hook up later seems to say something about her character.



Well according to big johns narrative, she got mad because she found out his girlfriend was coming into town and she was just a side piece...that's supposedly why this all happened.
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Quote:Well according to big johns narrative, she got mad because she found out his girlfriend was coming into town and she was just a side piece...that's supposedly why this all happened.
 

he read it on twitter, so it must be true

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Quote:As an example of why you'd give a BJ and not have sex...it's a perfect example. Sorry you couldn't understand that....
 

I understand an example, it just doesn't relate to this case.  


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