Manziel played with a hurt thumb the last two games which clearly affected his throws downfield. The LSU game had horrible wr play in which they were dropping balls and running wrong routes he also ran a lot more in the last two games. In the Missouri game you could tell they adjusted the gameplan to quick throws which the defense picked apart. Saying all that I rank manziel barely ahead of teddy and both of them way ahead bortles. But what I really think is the jaguars draft neither because if you look at the last draft class Caldwell does not draft injury prone players even though both these players played through their injuries and showed toughness.

 

To bad it's my opinion and not your huh. I'll let you know when I do my favorite prospects for this year draft we'll see how you do last year I had


Qb ej Manuel

Hb Jonathan Franklin

Fb Kyle jurserski

Wr deandre Hopkins

Te zach ertz

Ot joeckel

Og warford

C swanke

De ansah

Dt Brandon Williams

Olb gooden

Ilb olgeltree

Cb trufant

Fs Mathieu

Ss Reid


It will be after the combine post there if you want to nut up too something

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

My two overrated guys in the likely first round are...

LB/DE Anthony Barr- I watched this guy get pushed all over the field once an OL locked onto him. He's a one-trick pony that is currently very raw....upside is there but he is a risk.

WR Kelvin Benjamin- Although he'll be a big red zone threat, I think he'll have problems gaining any separation in the NFL.

 

I agree with both of these also Barr is the most overrated of all prospects

 

anthony barr, up until his injury was playing really well and receiving great reviews from everywhere.

and kelvin benjamin was a one man wrecking crew for carolina this year, even with cam struggling and no one taking the focus off him.

 

you also talked about how dee ford is terrible and as soon as he saw some actual playing time this past week because of the injury ahead of him, he came right in and disrupted the qb. another brilliant call by you.

 

youre also really good with qbs. ej manuel has been an absolute gem and manziel looks phenomenal too.

 

i guess youre right, credit should be given where credit is due. you just know way more than everyone else. hit the nail on the head, buddy.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

anthony barr, up until his injury was playing really well and receiving great reviews from everywhere.

and kelvin benjamin was a one man wrecking crew for carolina this year, even with cam struggling and no one taking the focus off him.


you also talked about how dee ford is terrible and as soon as he saw some actual playing time this past week because of the injury ahead of him, he came right in and disrupted the qb. another brilliant call by you.


youre also really good with qbs. ej manuel has been an absolute gem and manziel looks phenomenal too.


i guess youre right, credit should be given where credit is due. you just know way more than everyone else. hit the nail on the head, buddy.

I had ej Manuel because he was the best out of that weak qb group and later doubted Manziel due to inability to manipulate the pocket but that D is solid no credit there and we'll see how Barr and Benjamin plan out

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Oh and randy Gregory is just as bad as ray but with more potential they'll be huge busts but let me tell you Melvin Gordon will be amazing

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I had ej Manuel because he was the best out of that weak qb group and later doubted Manziel due to inability to manipulate the pocket but that D is solid no credit there and we'll see how Barr and Benjamin plan out

 

barr and benjamin are arguably 2 of the best players out of any of those listed besides maybe ansah. mathieu has performed well too. and 2 of the biggest busts were 2 of the guys you were high on. so i think ill maybe not etch your opinion on ray in stone.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

Oh and randy Gregory is just as bad as ray but with more potential they'll be huge busts but let me tell you Melvin Gordon will be amazing

 

hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahah ok dude well as long as they wind up as good as ej manuel....

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

are you sure you dont mean 2 years so you can tell me to check your posts from the year before that dont exist?

Check 2years ago or last year whatever u want

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hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahah ok dude well as long as they wind up as good as ej manuel....

I wouldn't have picked a qb from that class if I wasn't building a team with draft picks I said he was the best of that weak group

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Check 2years ago or last year whatever u want

 

those posts are conveniently non existent and you know that, because i saw you tell someone before that they could check your posts but theyre gone now because the board was re-done.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

those posts are conveniently non existent and you know that, because i saw you tell someone before that they could check your posts but theyre gone now because the board was re-done.

Ya how did u find the ones u did I can't even find them myself

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Ya how did u find the ones u did I can't even find them myself

 

just a simple search of your username. its not rocket science.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

just a simple search of your username. its not rocket science.

I didn't see the filters before

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We get neither in the perfect scenario. The tacks think they are set at QB and go elsewhere then someone who wants one of the QBs trades up and we grab a solid Oline man and acquire another 2nd round pick.


One can dream...

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After watching him tonight, give me some LW!

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a good player should always find a spot on your defense (or offense), regardless of what scheme you run.

 

If a player like Leonard Williams doesn't "fit" your defense, then you're running a [BLEEP] defense.

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a good player should always find a spot on your defense (or offense), regardless of what scheme you run.

 

If a player like Leonard Williams doesn't "fit" your defense, then you're running a [BLEEP] defense.

 

i wouldnt say that, but i get what youre trying to say. leonard williams is too good to pass on. you find ways to make him work.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

i wouldnt say that, but i get what youre trying to say. leonard williams is too good to pass on. you find ways to make him work.

 

I just think you're always better off having more of a "base" defense that multiple players can play.  Find good players and your defense will become very good.

 

A defensive lineman that's 6'5 and 300 lbs like Williams should be sought-after in any defense.  If he doesn't "fit"... then you're doing something wrong IMO.

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I just think you're always better off having more of a "base" defense that multiple players can play.  Find good players and your defense will become very good.

 

A defensive lineman that's 6'5 and 300 lbs like Williams should be sought-after in any defense.  If he doesn't "fit"... then you're doing something wrong IMO.

 

well at that point you change it to make it work. you dont take a lesser player because he fits better.

 

you take the talent that is leonard williams and make your defense work for him as opposed to what the texans tried to do with clowney, tried to make him work for the defense.

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

Anybody that says Williams doesnt fit our defense is a moron, the 5 tech doesnt have to be as big as Red Bryant, he just has to be able to stop the run, Williams add that and can rush the passer, which makes him a perfect fit.

 

Move him inside and outside on both ends in different situations 

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well at that point you change it to make it work. you dont take a lesser player because he fits better.

 

you take the talent that is leonard williams and make your defense work for him as opposed to what the texans tried to do with clowney, tried to make him work for the defense.

 

exactly right

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