It is a curious question but one that can never be answered...no matter how it gets spun.

 

I am sure a lot of people will try to answer it.

 

The fact that the national championshp game does not feature a Southeastern Conference team is not going to change anyone's mind about how good the SEC is. People refuse to take the SEC off the pedestal it never belonged on.

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How do you know it is an exceptional year and not the beginning of change?

Because I can't predict the future, but I know what the norm has been.

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Completely agree.


The last two SEC champs (the very best of their conference) just got beat by the ACC and BIG10 in consecutive years.


Auburn loss to ACC

Alabama loss to BIG10


Missouri and TAMU join the SEC (after being mediocre in the BIG12),,, and Missouri plays in 2 straight conference championships, while TAMU stays very competetive.

Well, to be fair, when Mizzou was in the BIG12, they were good every 4-5 years.


The SEC doesn't nearly belong to be on such a pedestal. They are good,, but not much different from Pac12, BIG10, BIG12 (IMO).


Seriously, the East is dreadful. When are UF, UGA, TENN ever going to get back to being power teams? Ever?


I'm starting to wonder if the WEST's top 4 teams every year are really all that much more powerful than the rest of the country.

Really, I wonder how SEC would've faired if a playoff had been in place the last decade? It's a curious question.


I don't see the dominance.

Losing consecutive "title" games to the ACC/BIG10.

Very curious.

You started off by comparing completely different years and teams. Can't be done.

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Because I can't predict the future, but I know what the norm has been.

 

That's my point. You don't know it is an exceptional year because it could be the beginning of a new normal. In that case, it is not an exception, but the norm.

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You started off by comparing completely different years and teams. Can't be done.

That's fair.

I was one that thought SEC was way above anyone else. I just find myself questioning that now. I think I was wrong.

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It is a curious question but one that can never be answered...no matter how it gets spun.

That's true.

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That's my point. You don't know it is an exceptional year because it could be the beginning of a new normal. In that case, it is not an exception, but the norm.

Youre predicting if you do that. You can't predict norms.

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Isn't JW supposed to be a gator fan, but yet she's arguing against the SEC? Or is she a Buckeye fan now because they are the good team...

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Isn't JW supposed to be a Gator fan, but yet she's arguing against the SEC? Or is she a Buckeye fan now because they are the good team...

 

What I am arguing against is most football fans overrating the SEC. I have always been a Buckeyes fan and started rooting for the Gators when my sister moved here.

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What I am arguing against is most football fans overrating the SEC. I have always been a Buckeyes fan and started rooting for the Gators when my sister moved here.

SEC overrated? I'll have some of what you're smoking. The SEC won 9 BCS Championships with a streak of 7 in a row. This season the SEC West had more teams in the top 25 than any other division in the FBS. I can see that your view is a little clouded on top of that high horse you're on after the Suckeyes won yesterday.

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SEC overrated? I'll have some of what you're smoking. The SEC won 9 BCS Championships with a streak of 7 in a row. This season the SEC West had more teams in the top 25 than any other division in the FBS. I can see that your view is a little clouded on top of that high horse you're on after the Suckeyes won yesterday.

 

One problem is people look at that and say the entire conference is better than all other conferences. Half of the conference sucks. I also hate it when people say a two-loss team is better than a one-loss team just because it is in the SEC and the one-loss team is not. That is obviously overrating the SEC.

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One problem is people look at that and say the entire conference is better than all other conferences. Half of the conference sucks. I also hate it when people say a two-loss team is better than a one-loss team just because it is in the SEC and the one-loss team is not. That is obviously overrating the SEC.

Wow you really wanna talk about half of a conference sucking? In 16 BCS games the Big 10 was represented 3 times....by the same team in which they won 1. I think the conference changed its logo to B1G because there's only been 1 good team in that conference for the last 15 years.

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Wow you really wanna talk about half of a conference sucking? In 16 BCS games the Big 10 was represented 3 times....by the same team in which they won 1. I think the conference changed its logo to B1G because there's only been 1 good team in that conference for the last 15 years.

 

I never said the Big Ten is a good conference. If you think that was my point you did not read the entire post.

 

The Big Ten's old logo had the number 11, so they had to change it. Why they changed it to have the number 10, I have no idea.

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Before we bury the SEC they did just go 7-5 in bowl games with one loss being in OT.  And another being a last second FG in which LSU got screwed out of a TD earlier in the game.  So its not as though this was some catastrophe of a bowl season.  

 

I keep reading a lot about the Big10 and obviously you have to give Ohio St credit for beating Alabama.  But Wisconsin(the 3rd best Big10 team) basically played to a draw against Auburn (the 6th best SEC team).  Minnesota (Big10 4) just got crushed by Mizzou (SEC 5).  And Tenn just blew out Iowa both of whom were 9 or 10 in their respective leagues.  The SEC just has more depth and quality teams than the Big10.  Even if at 9pm on new years day Ohio St played a better game than Alabama.

 

The problem the SEC had this year is that they just didnt have one elite team.  All their best teams had noticeable flaws that were their eventual downfall.  Whether it be Alabama's pass defense.  Ole Miss' and Mizzou's wildly inconsistent QBs.  Miss St lacking elite talent across the board.  LSU having arguably the worst starting QB in the SEC.  UGA annually getting Mark Richted once or twice a year.  But as usual the SEC just has more quality depth.  And more talent than any other league.  You've got 7 teams that are legitimate top 25 caliber teams.  And with A&M and Arkansas that's arguably 9 of the top 40 college teams.  No one else can come close to that. But they just didnt have the very best team.  A complete team.  Or a team good enough to overcome their biggest flaw.

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Before we bury the SEC they did just go 7-5 in bowl games with one loss being in OT. And another being a last second FG in which LSU got screwed out of a TD earlier in the game. So its not as though this was some catastrophe of a bowl season.


I keep reading a lot about the Big10 and obviously you have to give Ohio St credit for beating Alabama. But Wisconsin(the 3rd best Big10 team) basically played to a draw against Auburn (the 6th best SEC team). Minnesota (Big10 4) just got crushed by Mizzou (SEC 5). And Tenn just blew out Iowa both of whom were 9 or 10 in their respective leagues. The SEC just has more depth and quality teams than the Big10. Even if at 9pm on new years day Ohio St played a better game than Alabama.


The problem the SEC had this year is that they just didnt have one elite team. All their best teams had noticeable flaws that were their eventual downfall. Whether it be Alabama's pass defense. Ole Miss' and Mizzou's wildly inconsistent QBs. Miss St lacking elite talent across the board. LSU having arguably the worst starting QB in the SEC. UGA annually getting Mark Richted once or twice a year. But as usual the SEC just has more quality depth. And more talent than any other league. You've got 7 teams that are legitimate top 25 caliber teams. And with A&M and Arkansas that's arguably 9 of the top 40 college teams. No one else can come close to that. But they just didnt have the very best team. A complete team. Or a team good enough to overcome their biggest flaw.

LSU also beat Wisconsin with a bunch a pups.

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TravC59, aka JacksJags. @TravC59 on Twitter
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If the SEC superiority is not real, the SEC fans should be admired. They won. They somehow created the illusion that their conference is the best so that their fav team always gets an advantage.

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If the SEC superiority is not real, the SEC fans should be admired. They won. They somehow created the illusion that their conference is the best so that their fav team always gets an advantage.

This was one of many points I made when trying to show why teams of SEC fans wanted the SEC team to win in bowls or OOC. Good attempt at trying, but fruitless attempt nonetheless.


Even in what many would call a down year they still finish with second best bowl record. And people use the SEC as a measuring stick. Speaks for itself

 

I wouldn't necessarily use the term superiority, not really at any point over the last 10 or so years (give or take), but to many have blinders on.

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TravC59, aka JacksJags. @TravC59 on Twitter
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This was one of many points I made when trying to show why teams of SEC fans wanted the SEC team to win in bowls or OOC. Good attempt at trying, but fruitless attempt nonetheless.

Even in what many would call a down year they still finish with second best bowl record. And people use the SEC as a measuring stick. Speaks for itself.

To quote a few on here...haters gonna hate! :thumbsup:

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What in the Wide Wide World of Sports is agoin' on here???

It's not indicative of the entire conference to use 7 national championships as a measure of conference greatness from top to bottom. If that's the case, then every time Kentucky wins a basketball national championship the same criteria must be used to claim the SEC as best basketball conference. And I'm an SEC school engineering graduate. It only validates one team as being the best in the country.

 

Regards....................the Chiefjag

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It's not indicative of the entire conference to use 7 national championships as a measure of conference greatness from top to bottom. If that's the case, then every time Kentucky wins a basketball national championship the same criteria must be used to claim the SEC as best basketball conference. And I'm an SEC school engineering graduate. It only validates one team as being the best in the country.

 

Regards....................the Chiefjag

 

You rarely see anyone say the SEC is a strong basketball conference though.  It's different with football.  Top to bottom, the teams have been strong.  It's not like only one team won all those national titles either.

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