If you want to draft Mariota instead of Bridgewater with the #1 pick, I can safely say you want the Jaguars to have the least success possible for the next 10 years.

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I think Bridgewater at 3 is better value than Mack at 3, yes.

 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjtJ-SXZOgQ

 

 

 

More like Marcus Mediocre

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjtJ-SXZOgQ

 

 

 

More like Marcus Mediocre

 

He struggles with his ball placement.  His throws are accurate, but where he places them in the catching radius of the receivers is never consistent.  That's gonna be harder to fix in the pro's due to the faster DB's and safeties.  Not saying that he couldn't fix it, but it's something that's a little worrying when talking about a top QB prospect.

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He struggles with his ball placement.  His throws are accurate, but where he places them in the catching radius of the receivers is never consistent.  That's gonna be harder to fix in the pro's due to the faster DB's and safeties.  Not saying that he couldn't fix it, but it's something that's a little worrying when talking about a top QB prospect.

Fisch's insistence on running Henne on those options makes me fearful that Mariota is the target and not Bridgewater. 

 

I hope that isn't the case.

 

I hope we get Bridgewater.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Fisch's insistence on running Henne on those options makes me fearful that Mariota is the target and not Bridgewater. 

 

I hope that isn't the case.

 

I hope we get Bridgewater.

 

Bridgewater can run the read-option too.  He's fast enough for it to be effective.  He's not Pryor/Mariota fast, but he's at least Andrew Luck fast.  I don't think the read option will be a staple of any NFL offense.  The Redskins proved how effective it was last year.  Got them to the playoffs, but got their franchise guy hurt and regressing this year.

 

Whether it's Bridgewater or Mariota, I don't think the read-option will be the base of our offense.  They'll have a set of plays in there like all the rest of the NFL, but it won't be every down.

 

Even with Mariota's speed running the read option, I still think Teddy is the obvious choice for a throw-first QB.  Run-first QB's don't have long NFL careers and are always inconsistent ala Mike Vick.

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Fisch's insistence on running Henne on those options makes me fearful that Mariota is the target and not Bridgewater.


I hope that isn't the case.


I hope we get Bridgewater.

I'm glad someone's noticed.



Bridgewater is the superior QB but Mariota is the better fit for Fisch's offense from what I've seen out of his playbook. Him or Johnny Football...

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I'm glad someone's noticed.



Mariota is the better fit for Fisch's offense. Him or Johnny Football...

Jags will be Jags, I guess Winston next year is the plan.

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Has anybody stopped to think that Mariota probably won't declare for the draft after this year?  He's a red-shirt sophomore.  There aren't a whole lot of QB's who come out that early.  The same would go for Hundly and Manziel.  Although I do think that Hundly is coming out this year since he's been on record as saying the NCAA is a cartel, and Johnny Football likes to tick people off so they're both still unknowns.

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Has anybody stopped to think that Mariota probably won't declare for the draft after this year?  He's a red-shirt sophomore.  There aren't a whole lot of QB's who come out that early.  The same would go for Hundly and Manziel.  Although I do think that Hundly is coming out this year since he's been on record as saying the NCAA is a cartel, and Johnny Football likes to tick people off so they're both still unknowns.

Mariota has the chance of going top 5 (I think he'll overdrafted) He'll bite this year. Next year is Jameis

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Has anybody stopped to think that Mariota probably won't declare for the draft after this year?  He's a red-shirt sophomore.  There aren't a whole lot of QB's who come out that early.  The same would go for Hundly and Manziel.  Although I do think that Hundly is coming out this year since he's been on record as saying the NCAA is a cartel, and Johnny Football likes to tick people off so they're both still unknowns.

 

I don't know, I think the days of 1st round quarterbacks going back for another year are pretty much over by now.  Not sure if Hundly is a 1st rounder in the first place though.

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I'm glad someone's noticed.



Bridgewater is the superior QB but Mariota is the better fit for Fisch's offense from what I've seen out of his playbook. Him or Johnny Football...

 

Nobody is a good fit for Fisch's offense.  Fisch's offense isn't a good fit for the Jaguars.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

Bridgewater can run the read-option too.  He's fast enough for it to be effective.  He's not Pryor/Mariota fast, but he's at least Andrew Luck fast.  I don't think the read option will be a staple of any NFL offense.  The Redskins proved how effective it was last year.  Got them to the playoffs, but got their franchise guy hurt and regressing this year.

 

Whether it's Bridgewater or Mariota, I don't think the read-option will be the base of our offense.  They'll have a set of plays in there like all the rest of the NFL, but it won't be every down.

 

Even with Mariota's speed running the read option, I still think Teddy is the obvious choice for a throw-first QB.  Run-first QB's don't have long NFL careers and are always inconsistent ala Mike Vick.

One of the last things I'd want for the Jaguars is Bridgewater running any read option plays. 

 

Leave him in the pocket where he excels and gives the WRs a chance to excel.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

If you want to draft Mariota instead of Bridgewater with the #1 pick, I can safely say you want the Jaguars to have the least success possible for the next 10 years.

 

finally something by Tommy I agree with

 

Fisch's insistence on running Henne on those options makes me fearful that Mariota is the target and not Bridgewater. 

 

I hope that isn't the case.

 

I hope we get Bridgewater.

 

Scary stuff

 

Jags will be Jags, I guess Winston next year is the plan.

 

sig-worthy.

Nobody is a good fit for Fisch's offense.  Fisch's offense isn't a good fit for the Jaguars.

 

another sig-worthy

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He struggles with his ball placement.  His throws are accurate, but where he places them in the catching radius of the receivers is never consistent.  That's gonna be harder to fix in the pro's due to the faster DB's and safeties.  Not saying that he couldn't fix it, but it's something that's a little worrying when talking about a top QB prospect.

This was an issue for Kaepernick too, but seems to be working out fine, for now at least.

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Mariotta has been playing better football against bigger competition. bridgewater is playing without pressure against shrimps which allows him to madden his way to inflated stats. His only issue like stated before is placement and that is so easily taught in the NFL. Pocket presence, Fierce competitiveness, Rising up to an occasion, Arm strength are all things you can't teach which is what Mariotta has over bridgewater.

 

Agreed on Fisch. Im hesitant to say he needs to go because OC's rise and fall with QB play (like everything else anyways). Id say give em' one more year with a new QB then evaluate.

 

The Jaguars are targeting Mariotta likely because they know they have NO CHANCE at Bridgewater even if they go 0-16. The bucs are too far gone at this point. Talented players that don't care aren't better than untalented players who do care.

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 Pocket presence, Fierce competitiveness, Rising up to an occasion, Arm strength are all things you can't teach which is what Mariotta has over bridgewater.

Shirley, you can't be serious

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Mariotta has been playing better football against bigger competition. bridgewater is playing without pressure against shrimps which allows him to madden his way to inflated stats.


Agreed on Fisch. Im hesitant to say he needs to go because OC's rise and fall with QB play (like everything else anyways). Id say give em' one more year with a new QB then evaluate.


The Jaguars are targeting Mariotta likely because they know they have NO CHANCE at Bridgewater even if they go 0-16. The bucs are too far gone at this point. Talented players that don't care aren't better than untalented players who do care.

Mariota has been playing worse passing defenses than Bridgewater so the playing against shrimps argument is ridiculous.


And if the Bucs go 0-16 and the Jags do as well strength of schedule will determine who picks first so we wouldn't really know about that until the last few weeks of the season

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Worse passing defenses? I urge you to go look at the stats on that and Im sure you'll find that mariota has gone through more brick walls than bridgewater. Strength of Schedule is currently in the Jags favor but thats only temporary because the texans and colts will only get better % records as the season goes on. Expect them to ruin it for the jags.

 

Go look at scouting reports. Arm strength isn't apart of ted's top 3 attributes. He is a more hyped russel Willson/Drew Bree's. We can debate on pocket presence giving bridgewaters pocket QB style but the others are clear.

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The Jaguars are targeting Mariotta likely because they know they have NO CHANCE at Bridgewater even if they go 0-16. The bucs are too far gone at this point. Talented players that don't care aren't better than untalented players who do care.

 

If they both go 0-16 the Jags will probably get the tiebreaker. Just last week the Jags owned the SOS tie breaker with Tampa, and our schedule gets very easy down the stretch. 

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Worse passing defenses? I urge you to go look at the stats on that and Im sure you'll find that mariota has gone through more brick walls than bridgewater. Strength of Schedule is currently in the Jags favor but thats only temporary because the texans and colts will only get better % records as the season goes on. Expect them to ruin it for the jags.

 

Go look at scouting reports. Arm strength isn't apart of ted's top 3 attributes. He is a more hyped russel Willson/Drew Bree's. We can debate on pocket presence giving bridgewaters pocket QB style but the others are clear.

 

Using the stat for passing yards allowed. http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/695

 

Marcus Mariota Passing Defenses faced:

 

FCS team

29

70

123

105

36

106

34

 

On average passing D Mariota faced: 71

 

Teddy Bridgewater passing Defenses faced:

45

FCS team

69

27

119

121

47

50

 

Average passing D for Bridgewater: 68

 

Not a big difference, but there are the stats. 

 

Mariota also played against 3 passing defenses ranked in the lower third of teams in the NCAA all of them ranked worse than 100. 

 

Total Defense: http://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/22

 
Mariota:
 
FCS 
64
83
121
112
59
95
54
 
Avg total defense Mariota faced: 84
 
Bridgewater:
39
FCS
93
72
120
84
20
40
 
Avg defense Bridgewater faced: 67

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