Alcohol in not legal when you are on probation

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He tested positive for alcohol, a legal substance. Not a fan of the NFL on this "rule". In fact, I think its mindbogglingly idiotic.

It's specifically part of his substance program because of his DUI last year. It's not tested for the vast majority of players. 

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He tested positive for alcohol, a legal substance. Not a fan of the NFL on this "rule". In fact, I think its mindbogglingly idiotic.

PFT’s Mike Florio has confirmed Gordon is in line for a one-year ban for a violation of the NFL’s substance-abuse policy.


A source tells Florio that Gordon tested positive for alcohol. Moreover, a source tells Florio that Gordon’s suspension looks to be a “done deal,” with a reversal of the ban not expected. As Florio notes, Gordon is subject to alcohol testing because of his July 2014 DWI arrest.

I'm not sure what's the issue. This entire thing is avoidable. Don't get a alcohol related arrest, and this doesn't happen. I'm pretty sure staying staying sober is a part of the terms and conditions of his reinstatement. What dumb [BLEEP] drinks knowing damn well he's going to be tested for alcoholic substances?

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

It's specifically part of his substance program because of his DUI last year. It's not tested for the vast majority of players.

I understand this. Don't like it. Never have. NFL is not the law, and they are not probation officers. Just stop. They are digging themselves into a hole. They will never be able to sell the idea that punishments are anything but arbitrary and that their priorities are completely out of order if they continue doing stuff like this.

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Yeah you're right. Players on their 4th strike in the substance abuse program should be able to smoke and drink whatever they want.

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I understand this. Don't like it. Never have. NFL is not the law, and they are not probation officers. Just stop. They are digging themselves into a hole. They will never be able to sell the idea that punishments are anything but arbitrary and that their priorities are completely out of order if they continue doing stuff like this.

Dude this is like strike 4 now.


Playing in the NFL is a privilege, not a right. If you want to smoke and drink and get arrested multiple times in the process go right ahead. But the NFL doesn't have to continue their employment with you while you're supporting your habits. To be honest I wish I could find me a job that would let me screw up 3 or more times, and still have an opportunity to come back.

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Yeah you're right. Players on their 4th strike in the substance abuse program should be able to smoke and drink whatever they want.

I know, right? Smoke a little crack, sip on a little meth. That's exactly the point of what I was saying.

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I know, right? Smoke a little crack, sip on a little meth. That's exactly the point of what I was saying.

what is your point? That alcohol is legal? Because its not when you are on probation for a DUI. He broke the law and NFL rules. 4 times.

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what is your point? That alcohol is legal? Because its not when you are on probation for a DUI. He broke the law and NFL rules. 4 times.

Though I think you're wrong about the probation thing, even if it were true, a year suspension is a tough sell when the NFL has historically punished unlawful acts of violence significantly less severe.

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Though I think you're wrong about the probation thing, even if it were true, a year suspension is a tough sell when the NFL has historically punished unlawful acts of violence significantly less severe.

well I'm not wrong I am 100% sure about it. its black and white. No drugs or Alcohol. That's the law and dude broke it 4 times.

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Dude this is like strike 4 now.

Playing in the NFL is a privilege, not a right. If you want to smoke and drink and get arrested multiple times in the process go right ahead. But the NFL doesn't have to continue their employment with you while you're supporting your habits. To be honest I wish I could find me a job that would let me screw up 3 or more times, and still have an opportunity to come back.

They are making everything unnecessarily convoluted. You can drink. You can drive. You just can't do both and get arrested for it. That's as far as the NFL needs to go. How about letting law enforcement tell them how many "strikes" there are?


IMO, they'd be better off sticking with PEDs and banned substances. Let the actual law handle everything else.

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well I'm not wrong I am 100% sure about it. its black and white. No drugs or Alcohol. That's the law and dude broke it 4 times.

Link?

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They are making everything unnecessarily convoluted. You can drink. You can drive. You just can't do both and get arrested for it. That's as far as the NFL needs to go. How about letting law enforcement tell them how many "strikes" there are?


IMO, they'd be better off sticking with PEDs and banned substances. Let the actual law handle everything else.

I don't know why you are not getting this. There is nothing convoluted. Once you have broken the law and are placed on probation, You Can Not Drink.

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Link?

Google.com

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I don't know why you are not getting this. There is nothing convoluted. Once you have broken the law and are placed on probation, You Can Not Drink.

 


Reread.

Google.com

Thanks. Google says you are not 100% correct.

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Well I guess my judge just hates me I guess

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Sorry for being a condescending jerk. But it's a normal stipulation of probation where I live anyway.

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It's normal for probation anywhere. I've never seen a judge place someone on probation and not make that a condition of the probation--especially for alcohol / drug-related crimes.

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Sorry for being a condescending jerk. But it's a normal stipulation of probation where I live anyway.

  

It's normal for probation anywhere. I've never seen a judge place someone on probation and not make that a condition of the probation--especially for alcohol / drug-related crimes.

OK. I wont even argue. Let's say 100% those are always the exact rules of probation. Do you really believe it should be the job of the NFL to conduct that probation? And that a full season is a logical length of suspension?


I know the NFL is trying to protect its image and all, but I think stuff like this will ultimately end up hurting them.

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OK. I wont even argue. Let's say 100% those are always the exact rules of probation. Do you really believe it should be the job of the NFL to conduct that probation? And that a full season is a logical length of suspension?


I know the NFL is trying to protect its image and all, but I think stuff like this will ultimately end up hurting them.

for a fourth violation I believe a year suspension is warranted. Its not like he's going to jail. He just cant play football for 16 games.

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