Well, their actions did match the definition.

 

What I would do is irrelevant to the definition of the word thug. Why would I attack someone because they were an [BAD WORD REMOVED] to my wife? Do I have no self-control? I like to believe we live in a some-what civilized society. Would I stand up to them and defend her? Sure. If they touched her, I would definitely retaliate. 

 

However, If you believe assaulting another over a game of football isn't cruel or vicious though, then in the name of the Dude, I say "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."

 

Well this is the root of your problem. We are only expected to be civilized from the perspective of outsiders looking in. It's easy to sit back and cast stones at the actions of someone else without knowing precisely what went down to incite any given response.

 

I would amend the bolded statement to: "I like to believe we live in a somewhat civilized society...until <expletive> starts affecting me personally, then all bets are off!" That's a more accurate description of most folks imo.  :teehee:

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oh im so offended that guys fought at a football game.

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Funny that Gronk admitted he started the fight, the seahawks was trying to get a jump and pushed one of the OL men and Gronk said he was like screw it this is the last game and started throwing haymakers, but the Seahawks are the thugs  

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Funny that Gronk admitted he started the fight, the seahawks was trying to get a jump and pushed one of the OL men and Gronk said he was like screw it this is the last game and started throwing haymakers, but the Seahawks are the thugs

Gronk is the ultimate football warrior, Irvin is the thug.

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Whether someone has a liberal, or conservative viewpoint, a authoritative figure should not lock a thread for the sole purpose to get the last word in all the while prohibiting someone else from being able to respond.

Guess the football warrior Gronk gets a pass on this one.

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Whether someone has a liberal, or conservative viewpoint, a authoritative figure should not lock a thread for the sole purpose to get the last word in all the while prohibiting someone else from being able to respond.

oh im so offended that guys fought at a football game.

 

 

Funny that Gronk admitted he started the fight, the seahawks was trying to get a jump and pushed one of the OL men and Gronk said he was like screw it this is the last game and started throwing haymakers, but the Seahawks are the thugs  

 

 

Gronk is the ultimate football warrior, Irvin is the thug.

 

 

Guess the football warrior Gronk gets a pass on this one.

 

 

ROTFL. @Jamies_fried_chicken he hasnt responded to the other angle on being "sport thugs" and regular "thugs".

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Well, their actions did match the definition.

 

What I would do is irrelevant to the definition of the word thug. Why would I attack someone because they were an [BAD WORD REMOVED] to my wife? Do I have no self-control? I like to believe we live in a some-what civilized society. Would I stand up to them and defend her? Sure. If they touched her, I would definitely retaliate. 

 

However, If you believe assaulting another over a game of football isn't cruel or vicious though, then in the name of the Dude, I say "Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."

1.  First off, the fights were not "assaults," which are threats that create the reasonable apprehension of bodily harm, they were "battery," which is the offensive touching.

 

2.  You say you wouldn't attack now.  But you are safely detached behind a computer screen at some desk, either in your home or an office.  You aren't there in the heat of the moment, with adrenaline building as fight or flight response kicks in.  Just as you weren't there dressed as a Seahawk or Patriot, in the heat of battle, in the biggest game of people's careers in many instances, with the adrenaline kicking in.  If, in the hypothetical presented, you responded physically, by your standard you would be a "thug."  I think many, under the circumstances, would be a little more understanding of you.

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But...but...but...Seattle is thuggish.

 

Going back to page 3 of this thread,    I don't view what happened at the end of the game as thuggish.   There's a major difference between being very frustrated about seeing what looked like a Super Bowl victory turn into a defeat compared to acting like a criminal.     Aaron Hernandez and Lawrence Phillips come to mind as thugs.  Bruce Irvin doesn't. 

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Going back to page 3 of this thread,    I don't view what happened at the end of the game as thuggish.   There's a major difference between being very frustrated about seeing what looked like a Super Bowl victory turn into a defeat compared to acting like a criminal.     Aaron Hernandez and Lawrence Phillips come to mind as thugs.  Bruce Irvin doesn't.

Thank you.

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Bruce Irvin doesn't. 

 

He lived in Morgantown... therefore bib overall wearin, sister bangin, meth smokin, corn jug sluggin, PED using, drug dealer robbin thug.

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Guess the football warrior Gronk gets a pass on this one.

 

of course

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Aaron Hernandez, definitely a thug. That is a story that needs to be told to all the young players entering the league who come from such backgrounds so they can avoid that particularly sad ending.

 

As for a Pats fans perspective - I'm glad the Seahawks blew up and started the fracas at the end of the game. They weren't able to keep a lid on it and gave the Patriots more breathing room, further away from the endzone and potential disaster.

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I can only wonder why the word thug was used?

Exactly... Some over utilize the "THUG" word simply for descriptions otherwise...


NH3...

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Going back to page 3 of this thread,    I don't view what happened at the end of the game as thuggish.   There's a major difference between being very frustrated about seeing what looked like a Super Bowl victory turn into a defeat compared to acting like a criminal.     Aaron Hernandez and Lawrence Phillips come to mind as thugs.  Bruce Irvin doesn't.

Well said...


NH3...

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@D6

 

 

Maybe my use of the word "thug" was overemphasized, but the behavior of all the players at the end of the game is still inexcusable. I didn't think that one word could turn into such a huge debate and be taken so literally, out of context, and end up becoming a class on criminology/ethics; but since I've been on this board for 5 years now, and knowing some of the people on here; I'm really not surprised, or even offended in the slightest; by some of the criticism that I've received over this. Or that people would nitpick me for one word, rather then talk about the behavior at the end of the game in general. I am totally numb to what other people have to say to me at this point.

 

 

Welcome to the Jaguars MB.

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I can even buy the "personnel" excuse. But why not bootleg Wilson if you are going to pass there?


If the run was expected, the play action would work well enough to freeze the LBs.


Wilson has great mobility to get outside.

This is what I don't understand if you're calling a pass you ask wilson to bootleg gives him time to throw it away and not take the sack, opens him up to run and freezes the lb. was a bad call the pa would of probably worked but just a pass? Nah..

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@D6

 

 

Maybe my use of the word "thug" was overemphasized, but the behavior of all the players at the end of the game is still inexcusable. I didn't think that one word could turn into such a huge debate and be taken so literally, out of context, and end up becoming a class on criminology/ethics; but since I've been on this board for 5 years now, and knowing some of the people on here; I'm really not surprised, or even offended in the slightest; by some of the criticism that I've received over this. Or that people would nitpick me for one word, rather then talk about the behavior at the end of the game in general. I am totally numb to what other people have to say to me at this point.

 

 

Welcome to the Jaguars MB.

 

Jagswilldestroyyou,  I can't speak for anyone else.  But I'm not disturbed at all at what you expressed in this thread.   We see the situation what occurred at the end of the Super Bowl at least somewhat different.   Yet,  I respect your point of view.

 

Ideally,  the Super Bowl would have ended cleanly.    Yet,  considering the stakes of the game and how the game changed at the blink of an eye,   it's not surprising what occured following Malcolm Butler's interception that turned likely victory for the Seahawks into one of the most painful losses any of us have ever witnessed a team to have gone through.   That's saying something for me considering I've been an NFL fan for 4 1/2 decades.  

 

One thing I have very little tolerance for is criminal behavior that endangers others.   If I thought Bruce Irvin acted like a criminal,  I would have expressed it.   One thing I'm not concerned about is being ' politically correct'.   My posts on Political related topics on this MB have illustrated this to the point that I'm convinced that some people won't even acknowledge me on the MB.   It's not something I seek but it's more important to stand up for what you believe is right.    In the case of what happened in the Super Bowl,  I don't think any player crossed the line beyond the heat of battle.   Having said that,   I understand and respect why others feel differently.

 

I certainly enjoy the content and discussions you bring to the MB.   You certainly make this place more interesting and provide the opportunity to learn.   Thank you.

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Jagswilldestroyyou,  I can't speak for anyone else.  But I'm not disturbed at all at what you expressed in this thread.   We see the situation what occurred at the end of the Super Bowl at least somewhat different.   Yet,  I respect your point of view.

 

Ideally,  the Super Bowl would have ended cleanly.    Yet,  considering the stakes of the game and how the game changed at the blink of an eye,   it's not surprising what occured following Malcolm Butler's interception that turned likely victory for the Seahawks into one of the most painful losses any of us have ever witnessed a team to have gone through.   That's saying something for me considering I've been an NFL fan for 4 1/2 decades.  

 

One thing I have very little tolerance for is criminal behavior that endangers others.   If I thought Bruce Irvin acted like a criminal,  I would have expressed it.   One thing I'm not concerned about is being ' politically correct'.   My posts on Political related topics on this MB have illustrated this to the point that I'm convinced that some people won't even acknowledge me on the MB.   It's not something I seek but it's more important to stand up for what you believe is right.    In the case of what happened in the Super Bowl,  I don't think any player crossed the line beyond the heat of battle.   Having said that,   I understand and respect why others feel differently.

 

I certainly enjoy the content and discussions you bring to the MB.   You certainly make this place more interesting and provide the opportunity to learn.   Thank you.

Thank you for understanding D6. I respect your opinion too. I'm sorry about some of the things I said earlier and if I might have offended anyone. I should have used a different terminology like "distasteful", "disrespectful", or anything else that implied unprofessionalism. I can understand why the Seahawks felt the way they did; and about the way that defeat was literally snatched from the jaws of victory for them; but the way that some players such as Bruce Irvin decided to act and take out their frustrations on the Patriots, rather than just shake hands and say "good game man" like true professionals, was too much for me to stand.

 

 

Obviously I let my emotions get the better of me by starting this thread; and there's definitely a lesson in all of this that we can learn from about emotional intelligence, and general miscommunication. Understand that I was not offended just as a football fan, but as a man in general by Bruce Irvin's actions. If the Jaguars lost a SB like that, I would be heartbroken beyond comprehension, but I wouldn't take it out on other people. It's just a game at the end of the day.

 

 

Thank you for the kind comments D6. You're probably the only one on here that I know that of who has recognized my intelligence and my contributions to the board. Honestly, thank you.

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I certainly lost a lot of respect for them.  It was classless.  They only hurt themselves.  At the same time, I understand it.  Just don't agree with it.  They're grown men.

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