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shipyard thoughts...

#61

Some of you are hilarious.  When Khan bought the team many of you were yelling from the rooftops "he's going to move the team. He needs to prove it with his money that he's not!!!"  Well here you go.  Many of you wanted something like a Flex N Gate distribution place here to prove he's not moving. Well this is much much more than a distribution center and solidifies without a shadow of a doubt Khan's commitment to this city.


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#62

Quote:Some of you are hilarious.  When Khan bought the team many of you were yelling from the rooftops "he's going to move the team. He needs to prove it with his money that he's not!!!"  Well here you go.  Many of you wanted something like a Flex N Gate distribution place here to prove he's not moving. Well this is much much more than a distribution center and solidifies without a shadow of a doubt Khan's commitment to this city.
 

From the people I've seen in this thread, I don't think there were too many here that were the ones that worried.

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#63

Quote:Some of you are hilarious. When Khan bought the team many of you were yelling from the rooftops "he's going to move the team. He needs to prove it with his money that he's not!!!" Well here you go. Many of you wanted something like a Flex N Gate distribution place here to prove he's not moving. Well this is much much more than a distribution center and solidifies without a shadow of a doubt Khan's commitment to this city.


I remember the day the news broke and sitting in my truck listening to Mike Dempsy take calls about it. I had never heard so much panicking and down right nasty comments about Khan. Heck, we still get comments like that on Facebook and news4jax... It's embarrassing.
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#64

Quote:Some of you are hilarious.  When Khan bought the team many of you were yelling from the rooftops "he's going to move the team. He needs to prove it with his money that he's not!!!"  Well here you go.  Many of you wanted something like a Flex N Gate distribution place here to prove he's not moving. Well this is much much more than a distribution center and solidifies without a shadow of a doubt Khan's commitment to this city.
 

Khan has been steadily planting more roots in this community over the past couple of years in particular.  I was certainly a skeptic in the beginning, but I've come to the conclusion that he's determined to do with Jacksonville what he did with himself, taking an underdog and turning it into a force.  He's going to drag this small market into the future kicking and screaming.

 

It wouldn't surprise me to see him planning on moving here at some point, at least part time.  There's a penthouse apartment in that Shipyard project with his name on it, and an office building with space that could turn into a regional office for Flex N Gate.  He's already enhancing their presence here using the port, so it would be a natural progression.

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#65

Quote:Well now...see, that there is your problem. NFL franchises are first and foremost about business. That's what rich guys are all about, business. Once you realize that you'll understand why the rich guy in charge is more personally interested in developing the community than in personally running the franchise.


That right there is the bottom line.
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#66

Kahn is one of the best visionaries I have seen in a while. His vision and follow through is incredible. It doesnt hurt to have the money he has when being a dreamer. However, he is right. What is good for Jax is good for the Jags. Glad to be a fan of this team now because they are on the rise and sooner or later people will jump on the bandwagon because they are good.


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#67

Quote:I remember the day the news broke and sitting in my truck listening to Mike Dempsy take calls about it. I had never heard so much panicking and down right nasty comments about Khan. Heck, we still get comments like that on Facebook and news4jax... It's embarrassing.
 

It was nothing compared to the announcement that he was working on a package for a controlling interest in the Rams.  The guy was an Illini guy and had been so generous to the team.  Irony is the relief that many felt when Schemer Stan made his power play.

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#68
(This post was last modified: 02-20-2015, 05:56 PM by Banatha.)

The shipyard is a nice dream project, I am more intrigued by the choice of words by the Jaguars in talking about it.

Khan- " A franchise STABILIZING opportunity"

Lamping-" A lot of things need to happen to STABILIZE the franchise"

Twice more Lamping used the words "Stabilizing the franchise" in the same interview.

Obviously that phrase has been in high level Jaguar Meetings since Khan AND Lamping are using almost the same exact phrase.

 

The question that generates is obvious, is the franchise unstable? You don't stablize something already stable. You stablize a business that is wobbling and unstable.

They were not speaking of growth, or winning, but repairing and correcting the income stream.

Not to be an alarmist, but that phrase being repeated numerous times cannot be a positive sign on the state of the Franchise's health.


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#69

They were not talking winning because this was about the business side of the of the franchise. People forget this and only hear what they want to hear. I guess people didn't hear when Khan said this was the first time as the owner there was stability at Quarterback for this franchise since he has been the owner. Khan also said that Gus, David, and himself all know the team needs to preform better and win more games. I suggest many of you listen to the entire presentation again. The NFL is a business and what business isn't looking for stability.


If you're looking to here about winning, listen to Caldwell and Bradley.

It's funny how people hear a few words and ignore others.
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#70

Quote:They were not talking winning because this was about the business side of the of the franchise. People forget this and only hear what they want to hear. I guess people didn't hear when Khan said this was the first time as the owner there was stability at Quarterback for this franchise since he has been the owner. Khan also said that Gus, David, and himself all know the team needs to preform better and win more games. I suggest many of you listen to the entire presentation again. The NFL is a business and what business isn't looking for stability.


If you're looking to here about winning, listen to Caldwell and Bradley.

It's funny how people hear a few words and ignore others.
I was not looking for talk of winning. I believe I clearly said that.

They were indeed talking about stabilizing the business side of the franchise.  So again I will restate my concern, well curious interest, what is unstable about the business end of the franchise? The QB is not the business end of the franchise. So where is this instability on the business side that both Kahn and Lamping repeated was an issue? This is a franchise that has been in place for almost 20 years, most NFL franchises have sufficient revenue sharing that they are pretty stable,unless they are looking for greener pastures such as new stadiums and/or local revenue increases. Is the general ticket sales a pressing concern? Are business boxes a pressing concern? Is the lease terms, vendor arrangements, local advertising, out of whack with the rest of the league owners? Just what are the "several" items Lamping and Khan are referring to when they talk of the club needing to gain BUSINESS stability?

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#71

Quote:I was not looking for talk of winning. I believe I clearly said that.

They were indeed talking about stabilizing the business side of the franchise.  So again I will restate my concern, well curious interest, what is unstable about the business end of the franchise? The QB is not the business end of the franchise. So where is this instability on the business side that both Kahn and Lamping repeated was an issue? This is a franchise that has been in place for almost 20 years, most NFL franchises have sufficient revenue sharing that they are pretty stable,unless they are looking for greener pastures such as new stadiums and/or local revenue increases. Is the general ticket sales a pressing concern? Are business boxes a pressing concern? Is the lease terms, vendor arrangements, local advertising, out of whack with the rest of the league owners? Just what are the "several" items Lamping and Khan are referring to when they talk of the club needing to gain BUSINESS stability?
 

My thoughts: Winning stabilizes the franchise from a low end ticketing stand point, the longer we lose the more difficult it is to retain fan interest. A more robust business community (which includes a vibrant downtown) stabilizes the franchise from the high end ticketing and advertising stand point. A vibrant downtown also contributes to an improved tourism industry which ultimately contributes to community growth. More people means more $$$ opportunities for the franchise. It's not so much that the franchise is unstable, it's the community around it that needs to work. Obviously we'll never be the Cowboys when it comes to recognition and opportunity, but just the fact that it took several seasons to get a name on the stadium shows the challenges we have here. We should be thankful for Everbank, but they're no AT&T. Khan sees that this project will help to draw bigger industrial names to the city and that can only help his own growth prospects in the long term.

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#72
(This post was last modified: 03-06-2015, 01:58 PM by HolsterHusto.)

Update...


The DIA had a meeting today to go over Khan's proposal and then out of nowhere another developer has submitted a proposal.


According to Stephanie Brown at WOKV, an investor is willing to buy the land and clean it himself. It will be a combination of public space, market, and a mega yacht repair facility.


The DIA proposed another meeting in 30 days for any other proposals.
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