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Treestone Ice · 01-30-2015, 06:50 PM

So who here is buying the rumors on who wants to trade up for who, months before the draft even happens? I highly doubt Chip Kelly is telling people he wants Mariota, or anyone else for that matter. This reeks of some media scumbag throwing an article out there to get clicks. God knows iggle fans are dumb enough to give them to him too.

I'm not sure which has been worse the last few years as a Jags fan: the regular season or the off season.

David4499 · 01-31-2015, 09:34 AM

Quote:Personally, I'd give up my #3 pick in exchange with any NON PLAYOFF TEAM for their 1st and 2nd round pick + their 2016 1st round pick. Heck, I'd probably do 2015 1st and 2nd + 2nd round pick in 2016.

Ok Gene..... Dave's runnin this thang now....

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~~JaguarsWoman~~ · 02-05-2015, 05:05 AM

Quote:So who here is buying the rumors on who wants to trade up for who, months before the draft even happens? I highly doubt Chip Kelly is telling people he wants Mariota, or anyone else for that matter. This reeks of some media scumbag throwing an article out there to get clicks. God knows iggle fans are dumb enough to give them to him too.

I'm not sure which has been worse the last few years as a Jags fan: the regular season or the off season.

Nick Foles recently said he is not in danger of losing his starting job in Philadelphia. Chip Kelly never told him anything, but the media certainy did. Until someone gives me a quote from Kelly about trading up, I am going to assume there is no basis for the rumor because no team would trade "a king's ransom" for a guy they don't need and the Eagles certainly don't need a quarterback.

**Senor Fantastico** · 02-18-2015, 01:37 PM

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/adamlevitan'>Adam Levitan ‏@adamlevitan </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/adamlevitan/status/568089953634275328'>47m47 minutes ago</a>
Mr. <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/Jeff_McLane'>@Jeff_McLane</a> on 97.5, talking Mariota: "Unless I'm missing something here, the Eagles are going to do whatever it takes to get him."







Chip Kelly, come on up!

Bon Jagley · 02-18-2015, 02:19 PM

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<div style="color:rgb(41,47,51);font-family:Arial, sans-serif;background-color:rgb(245,248,250);">Adam Levitan ‏@adamlevitan 47m47 minutes ago
Mr. @Jeff_McLane on 97.5, talking Mariota: "Unless I'm missing something here, the Eagles are going to do whatever it takes to get him."







Chip Kelly, come on up!

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It would have to be a huge return to make that move. The Browns got two first, a second and two fourths in the Julio Jones trade. That would be the minimum I would take.

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knarnn · 02-18-2015, 03:25 PM

Rumors heating up per rotoworld:

Quote:Marcus Mariota | CLG

(February 18, 2015 12:31 PM EST)

Appearing on 97.5 The Fanatic in Philadelphia, the Philly Inquirer's Jeff McLane stated that he expects the Eagles to try to move up for Oregon QB Marcus Mariota in the draft.

This isn't the first we've heard of Chip Kelly's love for his college quarterback. "Unless I'm missing something here," said McLane, "the Eagles are going to do whatever it takes to get him." Acquiring Mariota would likely cost the Eagles most of their 2015 draft class, but would be well worth it if Mariota solves their quarterback problem. Philadelphia currently holds the No. 20 overall pick. They'll likely have to get into the top five, jumping the quarterback-needy Jets at No. 6.

SOURCE: ADAM LEVITAN ON TWITTER

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knarnn · 02-27-2015, 03:27 PM

Evidence contiunes to build. Per rotoworld:

Quote:Marcus Mariota | CLG

(February 27, 2015 1:53 PM EST)

According to Philly Voice's Jimmy Kempski, "evidence continues to build" that the Eagles plan to trade up for Oregon QB Marcus Mariota.

We've followed Kempski's work for years and can't ever remember him being wrong. Most notably, he called the DeSean Jackson release well in advance.

Kempski acknowledges he previously believed Philly moving up for Mariota was "unrealistic," but now "it appears the Eagles are determined to get their guy."

Moving up from No. 20 into the top-two picks would likely cost Philadelphia most of its 2015 draft class, in addition to a 2016 first-round pick.

SOURCE: PHILLY VOICE

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Treestone Ice · 02-28-2015, 04:38 PM

So one guy calls the team dumping DeSean (after the media said he was a gangbanger), and now hes the Mrs. Cleo of the NFL draft, got it. Ive literally never heard of any Adam Levitan, and rotoworld isnt known for its accuracy. These would be the media scumbags I alluded to earlier.

knarnn · 02-28-2015, 06:19 PM

According to the draft trade value chart if the Eagles are determined to move into the top 6 of the draft:

Quote:Here is a breakdown of what that might cost, according to the NFL Draft Value Chart, which assigns a point value to every pick.

No. 2 (2,600 points) Eagles would have to give up three first-round picks, or two first-round picks, two second-round picks and a third-round pick.

No. 3 (2,200 points) Eagles would have to give up two first-rounds picks, a second-round pick and a third-round pick.

No. 4 (1,800 points) Eagles would have to give up two-first round picks and a third-round pick, or a first-round pick, second-round pick, third-round pick, and two fourth-round picks.

No. 5 (1,700 points) Eagles would have to give up two first-round picks, or a first-round pick, two second-round picks and a third-round pick.

No. 6 (1,600 points) Eagles would have to give up two first round picks, or one first-round pick and two second-round picks.

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/report_eagles_are_determined_to_land_marcus_mariot.html'>http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2015/02/report_eagles_are_determined_to_land_marcus_mariot.html</a>

"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

EricC85 · 02-28-2015, 06:32 PM

I'm so hoping this pans out. Give me philly's draft class this year and their first next year.

SuperJville · 02-28-2015, 07:06 PM

I'm actually perfectly fine staying at #3 and getting an impact player now, this year.

Let my scouts and coaches do their job and then pick the best non-QB available, which will probably be one of the pass rushers.

Now, if someone from pick 6 or 7 wants to trade up, I will listen because you will probably still find a really good player there.

If you only think there's 4-5 potential stars in this draft: stay put and take one. Don't trade back.

gatorbait025 · 02-28-2015, 07:42 PM

If we want a DE I really don't think Beasley,Fowler, Ray, Dupree, Gregory are that big of a difference we could also get the best TE of the draft if we move back or someone who I think is a beast RT La'el Collins.

jobclarke · 02-28-2015, 08:50 PM

Really depends on free agency. McPhee for Otto, a RT, The free safety from buffalo maybe, CB Jackson, to play nickel then it's all about depth. Then it's possible to trade down because you'll be looking for young depth instead of a starter. I'd want a lot from the eagles to go that far. You have to use their eagerness to get him as leverage because a QB that you believe in is priceless.

cwpomerta · 03-01-2015, 01:10 AM

One thing I'm wondering, which I haven't seen someone address yet, is why would the Eagles want to trade with us? We obviously aren't going to draft a QB, neither are the two teams drafting after us. It seems it would be more valuable for the Eagles to trade with the Raiders or the Redskins. At 20, it's very likely the Raiders could still land a top WR or CB, maybe even a pass rusher depending on how the dominoes fall. Same with the Redskins who can still draft a top need player at 20. Best case scenario for me if Winston and Williams go 1 and 2 would be to trade out. We need the extra picks and can still get some very good need players later on in the draft. Fowler is going to be a bust and all the other pass rushers are a huge reach at 3.

StroudCrowd1 · 03-01-2015, 02:08 AM

This works out perfect. We don't have the best draft prospect since Luck in our division AND we can potentially benefit from a trade down from Kelly. I am all for it. I admittedly didn't watch much of Mariota outside of the champtionship game, but I just don't see the "it" factor in him. In fact, I was hoping the tacks would take him.

jobclarke · 03-01-2015, 03:52 AM

Quote:One thing I'm wondering, which I haven't seen someone address yet, is why would the Eagles want to trade with us? We obviously aren't going to draft a QB, neither are the two teams drafting after us. It seems it would be more valuable for the Eagles to trade with the Raiders or the Redskins. At 20, it's very likely the Raiders could still land a top WR or CB, maybe even a pass rusher depending on how the dominoes fall. Same with the Redskins who can still draft a top need player at 20. Best case scenario for me if Winston and Williams go 1 and 2 would be to trade out. We need the extra picks and can still get some very good need players later on in the draft. Fowler is going to be a bust and all the other pass rushers are a huge reach at 3.

They'll want to trade with us because we're basically the first available slot who won't need a QB. They vent risk waiting cuz another team can decide to trade with us instead and they'll lose their guy

BlueEyedJag · 03-01-2015, 09:40 AM

Quote:They'll want to trade with us because we're basically the first available slot who won't need a QB. They vent risk waiting cuz another team can decide to trade with us instead and they'll lose their guy

Plus I feel that dave would take the deal offered to Oakland or Washington and wouldn't be asking for a premium just because it's pick 3 vs 4 or 5.

lordmacabre · 03-01-2015, 09:50 AM

Quote:Absolutely. I want your 20th overall pick, your 52nd overall pick, your 110th pick in this year's draft along with your 1st round and 3rd round pick in 2016's draft for the 3rd overall pick though.

Mariota to the Eagles makes sense because he's already familiar with Kelly's offense and he may not be an elite QB in the NFL on any other team simply for the fact that he won't be playing on a no-huddle fast paced offense anywhere but Philadelphia. He's a system QB. And he fits Kelly's system like a glove.

I would be so happy if they wanted to trade us that many picks. I really hope this rumor has legs. It never seems to happen for us, but I'd like just once for it to swing our way.

lordmacabre · 03-01-2015, 09:58 AM

Quote:One thing I'm wondering, which I haven't seen someone address yet, is why would the Eagles want to trade with us? We obviously aren't going to draft a QB, neither are the two teams drafting after us. It seems it would be more valuable for the Eagles to trade with the Raiders or the Redskins. At 20, it's very likely the Raiders could still land a top WR or CB, maybe even a pass rusher depending on how the dominoes fall. Same with the Redskins who can still draft a top need player at 20. Best case scenario for me if Winston and Williams go 1 and 2 would be to trade out. We need the extra picks and can still get some very good need players later on in the draft. Fowler is going to be a bust and all the other pass rushers are a huge reach at 3.

The thing is though, if you bank on making a deal for say #4 or #5, there is absolutely no guarantee that another QB needy team doesn't jump to #3 ahead of you. In fact, if the Eagles desire to move up has any merit, I'd think other QB needy teams would definitely be talking to us. And really, when talking about capital expended to move from 20, I don't see the difference being large regardless of where you move between 3-5. If I'm the Eagles and I'm willing to spend that much on a guy, I'd rather toss in an extra 4th rounder and be sure I'm getting him.

knarnn · 03-01-2015, 02:08 PM

Quote:The thing is though, if you bank on making a deal for say #4 or #5, there is absolutely no guarantee that another QB needy team doesn't jump to #3 ahead of you. In fact, if the Eagles desire to move up has any merit, I'd think other QB needy teams would definitely be talking to us. And really, when talking about capital expended to move from 20, I don't see the difference being large regardless of where you move between 3-5. If I'm the Eagles and I'm willing to spend that much on a guy, I'd rather toss in an extra 4th rounder and be sure I'm getting him.

Wouldn't it suck for them if the Eagles traded up to say #4 and the Jets traded up with us to leapfrog them?

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