I believe so. I would expect to hear something like: "The Jaguars and Suh, Cobb, McCourty, Bulaga, and Murray have agreed to contracts in principle." on Saturday morning.

 

Pssh, not too believable. You forgot Julius Thomas!

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I believe so. I would expect to hear something like: "The Jaguars and Suh, Cobb, McCourty, Bulaga, and Murray have agreed to contracts in principle." on Saturday morning.

 

LOL! Expect or hope? lol

 

GO JAGS!!

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Let's Get Em!!!! Go Jags!

Did anyone see the article on ProFootballTalk.com suggesting that the Suh Camp wants to PLAY, the Jaguars, Raiders and Buccaneers so that the Dolphins can land Ndamukong Suh?

 

Not sure that is a wise move. I hope that Caldwell does not play along if the Suh Camp does not want to come to J-Ville.

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Did anyone see the article on ProFootballTalk.com suggesting that the Suh Camp wants to PLAY, the Jaguars, Raiders and Buccaneers so that the Dolphins can land Ndamukong Suh?


Not sure that is a wise move. I hope that Caldwell does not play along if the Suh Camp does not want to come to J-Ville.

I'm confused as to how the Dolphins will even be able to afford him. Especially in a bidding war.

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Did anyone see the article on ProFootballTalk.com suggesting that the Suh Camp wants to PLAY, the Jaguars, Raiders and Buccaneers so that the Dolphins can land Ndamukong Suh?

 

Not sure that is a wise move. I hope that Caldwell does not play along if the Suh Camp does not want to come to J-Ville.

 

Unless, you're looking at an article I'm not seeing, I think you're misreading what Florio is saying. Sexton may say those teams are very interested in Suh when in reality they may not be in order to drive up his price in another market like Miami. Act like Oakland and Jacksonville are preparing $110+ million offer sheets with big guarantees for Suh when they may actually be focused on other free agents like Cobb or Julius Thomas. I'm sure agents oversell the interest in their clients all the time in order to drive up their price.

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Based upon what John Oesher is saying in today's O-Zone, he does not get the impression that the Jags are going to chase Ndamukong Suh, so maybe Dave Caldwell has had the talks with Suh's agent and has decided that putting together an offer is not worth the team's time if they are going to be shopped.

 

Looks to me that Suh is not going to be on the Jags shopping list.

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Based upon what John Oesher is saying in today's O-Zone, he does not get the impression that the Jags are going to chase Ndamukong Suh, so maybe Dave Caldwell has had the talks with Suh's agent and has decided that putting together an offer is not worth the team's time if they are going to be shopped.


Looks to me that Suh is not going to be on the Jags shopping list.

Oesher is about as plugged in to the front office as you or I. He's offering his opinion only. See last year's draft pick predictions.

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If we don't go after Suh.... there really won't be any way to explain that.

 

We have the cap room, we don't have the talent, and there is a top free agent out there that is durable and in his prime.  He would be one of the top 10 players in the NFL excluding quarterbacks.  

 

We are in year 3 of this regime's re-build.  The time is now.  

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If we don't go after Suh.... there really won't be any way to explain that.

 

We have the cap room, we don't have the talent, and there is a top free agent out there that is durable and in his prime.  He would be one of the top 10 players in the NFL excluding quarterbacks.  

 

We are in year 3 of this regime's re-build.  The time is now.  

 

I'd like for them to go after Suh but there is an easy way for them to explain if they don't.  They have more pressing needs then DL.  They need playmakers on offense, Suh isn't going to score TD's for them.  Instead of getting into a bidding war with other teams for his services, they can focus on 2-3 top players for the price of Suh.

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I'd like for them to go after Suh but there is an easy way for them to explain if they don't.  They have more pressing needs then DL.  They need playmakers on offense, Suh isn't going to score TD's for them.  Instead of getting into a bidding war with other teams for his services, they can focus on 2-3 top players for the price of Suh.

 

Needs don't matter when you talk about Suh.

 

All those other guys are pretty much just guys.  Julius Thomas had like 400 something yards receiving a boat-load of TDs with Peyton Manning throwing him the ball.  I'm not sold on him.

 

Devin McCourty is a guy that's good at what he does - but that position depends on scheme and supporting cast - otherwise we can be looking at a Jarius Byrd situation from last year when a safety signs a big deal and then doesn't do anything.

 

Suh is priority #1 because he doesn't need a scheme or a support cast.  He just needs the center to snap the ball and he will wreak havoc no matter where he goes.

 

I would frankly be upset if all we get is Julius Thomas and then a bunch of 2nd and 3rd tier players.

 

When was the last time a guy like Suh was available?  Mario Williams?  

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I'd be ok if we don't land Suh, but I sure as hell hope that it is because he just chose another team than the fact that we either didn't offer him at all, or lowballed him.

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otherwise we can be looking at a Jarius Byrd situation from last year when a safety signs a big deal and then doesn't do anything.

 

Tad disingenuous to use a guy who had to be put on IR 4 games into the season as your example...

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Tad disingenuous to use a guy who had to be put on IR 4 games into the season as your example...

 

My mistake - I didn't realize he was on IR.  Just knew their defense wasn't that great and they lost a lot of games.  

Should've fact checked first.

 

 

But that brings up a good point with potential free agents:  Durability

Although you can't predict the future - Suh has been very durable and consistent.

Something we can't say about Julius Thomas, Randall Cobb, or Jeremy Maclin for instance.

McCourty has been durable as well.

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Based upon what John Oesher is saying in today's O-Zone, he does not get the impression that the Jags are going to chase Ndamukong Suh, so maybe Dave Caldwell has had the talks with Suh's agent and has decided that putting together an offer is not worth the team's time if they are going to be shopped.

 

Looks to me that Suh is not going to be on the Jags shopping list.

 

Not chasing Suh and not being interested in Suh are two totally different things. I get the impression he means we are not going to get into a bidding war. 

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I'm confused as to how the Dolphins will even be able to afford him. Especially in a bidding war.

 

 The Dolphins have freed up a significant amount of salary cap space already and they seem to be trying to free up more salary cap space.

 

 If it's a pure bidding war,  Ndamukong Suh decides he will sign with the highest bidder,  and the Jaguars are willing to spend money that's in the stratosphere that even the top QB's haven't received from one contract,    the Dolphins can't compete with the Jags.   If the bidding doesn't get close to that level,   the Dolphins and many other teams have a realistic chance of landing Suh.

 

 Regarding the Dolphins connection,  take it for what it's worth that Suh has reportedly been in South Florida this week:

 

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/dave-...story.html

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The Dolphins have freed up a significant amount of salary cap space already and they seem to be trying to free up more salary cap space.


If it's a pure bidding war, Ndamukong Suh decides he will sign with the highest bidder, and the Jaguars are willing to spend money that's in the stratosphere that even the top QB's haven't received from one contract, the Dolphins can't compete with the Jags. If the bidding doesn't get close to that level, the Dolphins and many other teams have a realistic chance of landing Suh.


Regarding the Dolphins connection, take it for what it's worth that Suh has reportedly been in South Florida this week:

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/dave-hyde-blog/sfl-hyde5-dolphins-poised-as-suh-visits-south-florida-20150304-story.html'>http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/dave-hyde-blog/sfl-hyde5-dolphins-poised-as-suh-visits-south-florida-20150304-story.html</a>

Even including the recent contract dumps, the Dolphins have about 9.5 million in cap to work with. If Suh gets the contract I think he's going to command then the Dolphins will need to get extremely creative in order to be serious frontrunners for his service.

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/'>http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/</a>

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Devin McCourty is a guy that's good at what he does - but that position depends on scheme and supporting cast - otherwise we can be looking at a Jarius Byrd situation from last year when a safety signs a big deal and then doesn't do anything.

 

Suh is priority #1 because he doesn't need a scheme or a support cast.  

McCourty is a close second to Suh in my book. (if we're ranking priority of potential FAs)  Diminish him all you want - but he would make our secondary better immediately.  We've only seen competent play in tiny doses from Evans over the past two years.

 

 McCourty represents a major upgrade at a position opposing teams have schemed against/picked on in several losses for the Jags. 

 

Yes - Suh is a rare opportunity worth taking a big run at.  McCourty is right behind him because he's a top ten player at a position of dire need in a year with lots of question marks in the draft at FS. 

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Even including the recent contract dumps, the Dolphins have about 9.5 million in cap to work with. If Suh gets the contract I think he's going to command then the Dolphins will need to get extremely creative in order to be serious frontrunners for his service.

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/'>http://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/</a>

 

I'm glad you posted this,  as I thought the Dolphins had much more salary cap space than they do.   I'm surprised they have less cap space than the Lions.   Especially,  considering the composition of the Dolphins roster.

 

Based on the site you provided and a slightly more favorable one that I just looked at,   I agree with you that the Dolphins will have to get extremely creative to have a realistic chance at landing Ndamukong Suh.   The lack of a Florida state income tax potentially helps the Dolphins but they need much more than that. 

 

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

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The following article from MLive caught my attention.   IMO,  it's on the wishful thinking side from the perspective of Lions beat writer Justin Rogers,  from the standpoint of expressing an opinion to the Lions fan base that reads his articles.   If a team like the Jaguars or Raiders offers Ndamukong Suh $ 70 million + in guaranteed money,  something they can afford to do,   most teams are not going to be able to match that offer.   So much depends on what Suh's criteria for a team is.   If money is clearly the # 1 factor and the Jaguars truly want him,   they have a pretty good chance of landing him.    With the lack of a state income tax in Florida a major positive from a Jaguars perspective.   Not just if they pursue Suh but with all FA's they have interest in:

 

 

http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/201...p_spa.html

 

Analysis: Don't get hung up on cap space, reality is most teams could afford to sign Ndamukong Suh

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The following article from MLive caught my attention. IMO, it's on the wishful thinking side from the perspective of Lions beat writer Justin Rogers, from the standpoint of expressing an opinion to the Lions fan base that reads his articles. If a team like the Jaguars or Raiders offers Ndamukong Suh $ 70 million + in guaranteed money, something they can afford to do, most teams are not going to be able to match that offer. So much depends on what Suh's criteria for a team is. If money is clearly the # 1 factor and the Jaguars truly want him, they have a pretty good chance of landing him. With the lack of a state income tax in Florida a major positive from a Jaguars perspective. Not just if they pursue Suh but with all FA's they have interest in:


<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2015/03/analysis_dont_focus_on_cap_spa.html'>http://www.mlive.com/lions/index.ssf/2015/03/analysis_dont_focus_on_cap_spa.html</a>

Analysis: Don't get hung up on cap space, reality is most teams could afford to sign Ndamukong Suh

While true that it comes down to contract structure, it'll be interesting if Suh (and his agent) would be willing to agree with a team offering a contract with the big money near the end of the agreement vs a team offering him more upfront in the first year or two. While the back loaded contract would be more team friendly the front loaded deal would be extremely player friendly.

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