^{Bridgewater: 179-243 : 77% Completion - 2557 yards - 10.5  - 23 tds - 2 ints - 11 sacks}

 

^{Mariota: 144-225: 64 % Completion - 2281 Yards - 10.1 YPA -  20 tds - 0 Ints - 10 sacks}

 

^{One is in a run first offense playing slightly better defensive teams as someone posted earlier and the other is in a extremely pass happy 1 read system with tons of screens and throws to the flat where Oregon's speed demons kill defenses. Yet somehow Bridgewater has 77% completion in a pro style offense and Mariota can only muster 64% throwing screens and crossing routes all day. The YPA of 10 in a pro style offense is amazing as well.}

 

^{And where is this Mariota is amazing accurate stuff coming from?}

 

 

 

Their rear ends. 

 

The Mariota hype reminds me of the Blaine Gabbert hype - you look at it in wonder as you don't understand where its coming from when you actually watch the player play and he doesn't look impressive. 

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Their rear ends. 

 

The Mariota hype reminds me of the Blaine Gabbert hype - you look at it in wonder as you don't understand where its coming from when you actually watch the player play and he doesn't look impressive. 

Gabbert was overrated, but guys that are 6' 4", athletic with big arms don't grow on trees.

 

MM is on another level though. He actually produced in college and has so much more upside than Gabbert, I really don't get the comparison. Gabbert also regressed in his last year of college, MM is just getting better.

 

Just because he's not operating in a pro style system doesn't mean he isn't impressive. He's running that offense as good as anyone could expect. Not saying there's no risk involved, but to say he's not impressive is just plain silly.

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Gabbert was overrated, but guys that are 6' 4", athletic with big arms don't grow on trees.

 

MM is on another level though. He actually produced in college and has so much more upside than Gabbert, I really don't get the comparison. Gabbert also regressed in his last year of college, MM is just getting better.

 

Just because he's not operating in a pro style system doesn't mean he isn't impressive. He's running that offense as good as anyone could expect. Not saying there's no risk involved, but to say he's not impressive is just plain silly.

 

Getting better? Mariota's comp % is much lower than last seasons....which is scary given what he's asked to do in that offense... :blink: 

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Some people need to stop looking at pure numbers when they talk about Mariota vs. Bridgewater, and actually watch them play. Stop knocking guys for the offense they run, and watch them in situations where they are asked to play "NFL" QB. 

 

 

http://youtu.be/rM6-KQeGcMc

45:26

46:40

1:01:30

1:52:49

2:03:42

 

Look at these 5 plays and tell me that he isn't an elite prospect.

46:40 is really inaccurate, 1:01:30 is late and he's locking on his read.

 

45:26 and 2:03:42 are interesting, he shows his arm and mobility, but that's not really what will be asked of him first on Sundays

 

1:52:49 is nothing special

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^{Bridgewater: 179-243 : 77% Completion - 2557 yards - 10.5  - 23 tds - 2 ints - 11 sacks}

 

^{Mariota: 144-225: 64 % Completion - 2281 Yards - 10.1 YPA -  20 tds - 0 Ints - 10 sacks}

 

^{One is in a run first offense playing slightly better defensive teams as someone posted earlier and the other is in a extremely pass happy 1 read system with tons of screens and throws to the flat where Oregon's speed demons kill defenses.}

Is it the 'extremely pass happy' offense that has Teddy with 18 more passing attempts? In fact, UL 2669 passes and 1293 rushes so far this year. Oregon 2405 passes and 2652 rushes. 

 

Sorry to embarrass you like that, but if you're going to try to sound like an expert about something you should make sure your very first overriding point is correct. 

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Wilson is a tactical thinker and it shows in how he goes through progressions and does every thing possible to not leave the pocket. Mariota has the break from the pocket early problem and will scramble at a much higher rate than wilson who prefers to slide around in the pocket and then escape at the last minute.

 

Mariota is a run the play by the book type. You wont see him beating teams with his brains and thats why i cant place him above bridgewater. If the play design is bad then Mariota will falter whereas with Wilson he will simply adjust the play to fit better. You cant teach a athletic minded player like Mariota to suddenly start using his brain he will need a very detailed system with much of the thinking process taken down so his athletics can shine through.

 

RG3 is very similiar in this trait and so was Vick. They have relied on their athletics to the point it has become second nature for them to think it will just carry them through games. Their mindset is " well this play wont look too good against this cover 2 but if it doesnt work out i can just run anyways" for Wilson its "Well this play wont work against the cover 2 ima adjust this because i dont want to have to run and the bigger plays will be downfield"

 

Big difference IMO.

Yikes, two posts in a row trying to denigrate Mariota and are way wrong. You clearly have no clue how much Mariota uses his brain when he is playing...and he is absolutely nothing like RG3 or Vick. So sad.

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46:40 is really inaccurate, 1:01:30 is late and he's locking on his read.

 

45:26 and 2:03:42 are interesting, he shows his arm and mobility, but that's not really what will be asked of him first on Sundays

 

1:52:49 is nothing special

 

46:40 - He threw it over the linebacker, before his back was open. The #1 trait an NFL QB needs - Anticipation.  That was a beautiful touch pass for what would have been a TD in the NFL.

1:01:30 - Are you kidding me? The kid stood in there with defenders draped over him and delivered a perfect strike. You're not being fair here.

45:26 & 2:03:42 - You're right, NFL plays are designed with the expectation that the QB has ample time to throw. The reality is that a QB will only get a perfect pocket maybe only 70% of the time. Here he shows that he can escape and make accurate and strong throws when he's 'off his platform'. Big Ben has made a living this way, and won 2 super bowls in the process.

1:52:49 - I threw that one in as an example that he has the capability to make throws even when the timing is right. Guys like Johnny Manziel seem to always have to 'ad-lib' to be effective. Not Mariota.

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Getting better? Mariota's comp % is much lower than last seasons....which is scary given what he's asked to do in that offense... :blink:

 

<span style="font-family:'courier new';">He’s at 64%, which is not terrible for “that offense”. You make it sound like Chip Kelly’s offense produces high completion percentage, which is completely false. He’s also averaging about 2 yards more per attempt and has a 20-0 TD to Int ratio compared to 32-6 from last year.
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<span style="font-family:'courier new';">He’s far from a polished product and there’s risk involved, but he has a much higher floor than Gabbert based solely on his athletic ability and college production. And the ceiling….well sky is the limit.
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Nothing against Mariota, but there's no way anyone can convince me that he is NFL ready based on this vid:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acq0zs5eRtU

 

Forget that he plays in a typical read option scheme, what I see is a bunch of erratic throws and inconsistent footwork.

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Does Mariota ever not line up shotgun? Give me Teddy.

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If that RV sales place wants Tebow in Jax bad enough to take out a billboard saying as much.....they should just HIRE him.

Does Mariota even football?

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Does Mariota even football?

i dont think so

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Does Mariota ever not line up shotgun? Give me Teddy.

poor evaulation. 

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Does Mariota ever not line up shotgun? Give me Teddy.

 

I brought this up as well several weeks back. I have yet to see this guy line up under Center. 

 

Dude's a project - between this and the erratic throws/ footwork/ delivery. 

 

Haven't we learned our lessons with "project" players by now???

 

We don't have Jim Harbaugh (or other "insert guru QB developer here)....so it makes sense for the Jaguars to draft the most pro ready QB there is with as little "fixing" needed as possible. 

 

Teddy Bridgewater is that....and he happens to also be the best QB prospect anyway, so the decision should be a slam dunk. 

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Does Mariota even football?

 

I don't even think he puts on his shoulder pads the right way.

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Marcus Mariota is a fantastic prospect, there's no doubt about it, but Teddy Bridgewater is a special prospect, and it's because of his poise, pocket presence, eye level, accuracy, and football IQ. Bridgewater from day 1 will be one of the better QB's in the NFL.

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Marcus Mariota is a fantastic prospect, there's no doubt about it, but Teddy Bridgewater is a special prospect, and it's because of his poise, pocket presence, eye level, accuracy, and football IQ. Bridgewater from day 1 will be one of the better QB's in the NFL.

 

Some of the resident board geniuses would rather have a running back at the QB position, rather than an actual QB who does the QB things well....hence the Mariota hype. 

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Some of the resident board geniuses would rather have a running back at the QB position, rather than an actual QB who does the QB things well....hence the Mariota hype. 

 

I think Mariota has a chance to be a dynamic player at some point, but I want Bridgewater.

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I think Mariota has a chance to be a dynamic player at some point, but I want Bridgewater.

 

....and he equally has a chance to never smooth out those actual QB issues he has and be a mediocre pro. 

 

Thats why you take Bridgewater. The Jags are in no position to "gamble" on this one, and theres no reason to when the Bridgewater option is elite to begin with. 

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It was a serious question....I've yet to see him take a snap from under center

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If that RV sales place wants Tebow in Jax bad enough to take out a billboard saying as much.....they should just HIRE him.