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Chris Borland retiring

#41

Quote:I'm sure you are fearless behind that desk.
 

As are you.

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#42

Quote:As are you.
 

I'm not the one claiming to be Macho Man.

The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.
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#43

Quote:I'm not the one claiming to be Macho Man.
 

Did I?

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#44

I do know one thing, though.  If I were blessed with the ability to make millions in the NFL and have my family taken care of for life, I wouldn't walk away from my obligations.  Everyone acts like this is some brave act, but he screwed a lot of people with this decision based on fear of  possibly getting hurt.


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#45

Quote:I do know one thing, though. If I were blessed with the ability to make millions in the NFL and have my family taken care of for life, I wouldn't walk away from my obligations. Everyone acts like this is some brave act, but he screwed a lot of people with this decision based on fear of possibly getting hurt.


Do you even know if he has a wife and kids aka his obligations or the people he's "screwing"?
"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."
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#46

Quote:Yes.  Just because its a less noble job, doesn't mean its not a job.  
 

You have zero context in what you speak about.

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#47

Quote:Do you even know if he has a wife and kids aka his obligations or the people he's "screwing"?
 

No idea.  I assume he has a mother and father though.  I also assume that if he doesn't have a wife and kids that he would like some of those one day as well.

 

It's not just his family he's screwing, he's screwing the 49ers royally.  They just wasted a high 3rd rounder on this kid and were depending on him, only for him to walk away less than a year later when they needed him most.  It's just a business, but it's not good form.  

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#48

Quote:No idea.  I assume he has a mother and father though.  I also assume that if he doesn't have a wife and kids that he would like some of those one day as well.

 

It's not just his family he's screwing, he's screwing the 49ers royally.  They just wasted a high 3rd rounder on this kid and were depending on him, only for him to walk away less than a year later when they needed him most.  It's just a business, but it's not good form.  
 

This father?

 

"Oh, I don't know. I think maybe it's one of those affirming things as a parent, you know, that maybe somewhere along the line you accidentally did something right," the elder Borland told FOX Sports by phone Tuesday morning from his office at The Borland Group in Dayton, Ohio. "Chris has had a great network of friends and family, beginning with his sister and brothers. So when it came time to make the decision, the support for his decision was unanimous and very positive. And I think maybe that helped him do it."

 

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/chris...ear-031715

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#49

Quote:You have zero context in what you speak about.
 

I don't know how to be any more contextual for you.

 

You sarcastically asked me if I was comparing first responders to NFL players.  I said yes.  What else do you want?

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#50

Quote:No idea.  I assume he has a mother and father though.  I also assume that if he doesn't have a wife and kids that he would like some of those one day as well.

 

It's not just his family he's screwing, he's screwing the 49ers royally.  They just wasted a high 3rd rounder on this kid and were depending on him, only for him to walk away less than a year later when they needed him most.  It's just a business, but it's not good form.  
 

lol this is a dumb argument.  screwing his family?  his family, assuming they love him more than money, is probably supportive of the decision.

 

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#51

Quote:This father?

 

"Oh, I don't know. I think maybe it's one of those affirming things as a parent, you know, that maybe somewhere along the line you accidentally did something right," the elder Borland told FOX Sports by phone Tuesday morning from his office at The Borland Group in Dayton, Ohio. "Chris has had a great network of friends and family, beginning with his sister and brothers. So when it came time to make the decision, the support for his decision was unanimous and very positive. And I think maybe that helped him do it."

 

http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/chris...ear-031715
 

Yes, that father.

 

Having support and making the right decision are completely different.  Most of the media supports the decision and proclaim him to be some brave pioneer that will save our children from the horrors of football.

 

If he had walked away because he didn't like football, I would have had more respect for the decision.  My opinion would be that he should suck it up and finish what he started, but I could at least respect the decision a little more.  The whole "scared of possibly getting injured" thing doesn't jive well with me.

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#52

Quote:I don't know how to be any more contextual for you.

 

You sarcastically asked me if I was comparing first responders to NFL players.  I said yes.  What else do you want?
 

Putting aside your insulting comparison of NFL players to first responders and military. Do you really not think that every year there are firemen or policemen that quit because of the dangers of the job? Or coal miners or whatever other dangerous profession you might think of.

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#53

Quote:lol this is a dumb argument.  screwing his family?  his family, assuming they love him more than money, is probably supportive of the decision.

 
 

I would hope they love him more than money and are supportive of him.  Doesn't change the fact that he walked away from a job that would have paid him enough money to never need any ever again because he was scared of something happening that hasn't even happened to him yet.

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#54

Quote:Putting aside your insulting comparison of NFL players to first responders and military. Do you really not think that every year there are firemen or policemen that quit because of the dangers of the job? Or coal miners or whatever other dangerous profession you might think of.
 

Yes, but they aren't being offered millions of dollars for a 7-10 year career.  They move on to other jobs that pay the same.  Personally, I have yet to see a police officer quit solely because of the danger of the job.  Many times its a contributing factor, but not the sole stimulus.  And being a police officer is exponentially more dangerous than being a football player.  How many police officers die per year just from suicide?

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#55

Quote:Yes, but they aren't being offered millions of dollars for a 7-10 year career.  They move on to other jobs that pay the same.  Personally, I have yet to see a police officer quit solely because of the danger of the job.  Many times its a contributing factor, but not the sole stimulus.  And being a police officer is exponentially more dangerous than being a football player.  How many police officers die per year just from suicide?
 

Police officers do change careers all the time after they get shot at.

 

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#56
(This post was last modified: 03-17-2015, 01:15 PM by badger.)

Quote:I would hope they love him more than money and are supportive of him.  Doesn't change the fact that he walked away from a job that would have paid him enough money to never need any ever again because he was scared of something happening that hasn't even happened to him yet.
 

he has already been suffering from concussions, and he explained that in his retirement statement.  I guess you didn't read it.

 

Again, you're talking about how this is wrong because money money money.  Did it ever occur to you that money is not of utmost important?

 

And you keep comparing this to public servants and military who have been commissioned to serve and protect.  Football is purely recreation and entertainment.  There is no higher calling or purpose in football.  Of course we shouldn't care if somebody walks away from it regardless of the reason.

 


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#57

Police officers don't make nearly what NFL players do, but I would say they make a pretty good living.  Firefighters too. 

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#58

Quote:Police officers don't make nearly what NFL players do, but I would say they make a pretty good living.  Firefighters too. 
 

Some do.

 

Not in Florida.  Go see for yourself, but most of them make less than $40,000.  

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#59
(This post was last modified: 03-17-2015, 01:23 PM by FreeAgent01.)

Quote:he has already been suffering from concussions, and he explained that in his retirement statement.  I guess you didn't read it.

 

Again, you're talking about how this is wrong because money money money.  Did it ever occur to you that money is not of utmost important?

 

And you keep comparing this to public servants and military who have been commissioned to serve and protect.  Football is purely recreation and entertainment.  There is no higher calling or purpose in football.  Of course we shouldn't care if somebody walks away from it regardless of the reason.

 
 

http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/1...y-concerns

 

He says he wants to be proactive and he isn't experiencing any symptoms.

 

I keep comparing them because they do a more dangerous job for pennies, but they don't suddenly quit because they are afraid.  If they did quit because they were afraid of the dangers and there were no other reasons, I would call that person a modern-day, risk-adverse coward as well.

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#60

Quote:All these early retirements are doing is just making room for new players. As long as the NFL is making people big money, there will be plenty of bodies. I respect Borland for his choice though. MLB and RB seem to have the highest chance for major injury. He made a bit of money, earned some cash and respect..He now gets to ride off into the sunset with fond memories and his health in tact
 

Players don't think concussions are major injuries. The NFL made up a strict concussion protocol because without it, nobody thought he needed to leave a game early or miss the next game with a head injury.

 

However, it would be an interesting study if the NFL determined which players have the highest risk of injuries to certain body parts or tissue types - for example, wide receivers are most likely to be concussed.

 

Quote:Helmets do nothing in regards to concussions. They are used to prevent skull fracture.
 

Helmets are not being blamed for failing to prevent concussions. The problem is players today use their heads to block or tackle, which no one did when helmets were leather with only one chin bar.

 

Quote:Wow...I saw a few games and that kid was a MONSTER flying all over the field.  Go on him for thinking long term, but wow.  Between him, Locker, and Worilds all walking away early plus all the trades, Gore going from Philly to Indy...this has been a CRAZY offseason!
 

MJD and Justin Smith also retired early before those guys did, but they played much longer.

 

Jake Locker and Jason Worilds said they wanted to pursue other interests and did not cite injury concerns. They also had reached the end of their rookie contracts.

 

Frank Gore went from San Francisco to Indianapolis. He never signed the contract Philadelphia offered him.

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