Well if it's medically proven that it's highly dangerous why would you want your kid playing it? I'm sure you wouldn't want your kid bare knuckle boxing...

I'm not sure about you, but as a child I did many many MANY things that were highly dangerous. 

Some, my parents encouraged, some, my parents would have a heart attack if they knew about it.

Either way, it was all part of growing up. You can't keep everyone safe.

There's been a lot of research that SUGGESTS that football could cause issues, but so could anything else.

I fully intend on letting my son pursue whatever sport he wishes, regardless of the danger level. It's his life, and he gets to make those choices. 

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We are Jaguars.

Well if it's medically proven that it's highly dangerous why would you want your kid playing it? I'm sure you wouldn't want your kid bare knuckle boxing...

 

Because it is no more dangerous than when I played, or the generation before me, or the generation before them.  If anything, its safer now.

 

Life is highly dangerous - don't go outside.

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<div>Football is the most common sport with concussion risk for males (75% chance for concussion)
Soccer is the most common sport with concussion risk for females (50% chance for concussion)
 

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Source? Also, what defines concussion risk?

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We are Jaguars.

Source? Also, what defines concussion risk?

http://www.concussiontreatment.com/concussionfacts.html

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Air traffic controllers are at an incredibly higher risk for suicide. Life inherently has risks. If you are so risk-adverse that you "proactively" avoid some risk, then you are a wuss. Yes.

Obviously there are some risks you can avoid. Its been proven smoking cigarettes exponentially increases your risk for cancer. Every time you light one up you're gambling on that. Am I a wuss because I choose not to smoke vs living YOLO?

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Not now.  In the future it may be decided football is too dangerous for children to play.  That is part of the wussification of America.

 

 

You can acknowledge that the guy is making a smart decision and enjoy watching football at the same time.  It's dangerous, but that's partly what makes it exciting.  However, it should be nobody else's place to judge whether or not somebody chooses to play it.  You have the freedom to choose to play and the freedom to choose not to play.

 

You're sitting here criticizing him for quitting, but all he did was exercise his right to choose, which is what we all should support. 

 

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You can acknowledge that the guy is making a smart decision and enjoy watching football at the same time.  It's dangerous, but that's partly what makes it exciting.  However, it should be nobody else's place to judge whether or not somebody chooses to play it.  You have the freedom to choose to play and the freedom to choose not to play.

 

You're sitting here criticizing him for quitting, but all he did was exercise his right to choose, which is what we all should support. 

 

 

He absolutely has the right to choose do do whatever he wants to do.  It doesn't mean we all have to have the same opinion of the man.  I think he is acting like a wuss and you should support my right to choose how I view a person.

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Am i a wuss when i get piss drunk and decide not to drive home because i might kill myself, someone else, or end up in jail?

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Obviously there are some risks you can avoid. Its been proven smoking cigarettes exponentially increases your risk for cancer. Every time you light one up you're gambling on that. Am I a wuss because I choose not to smoke vs living YOLO?

 

Nobody is saying he should go out there without a helmet and throw precaution out the window.  

 

This is a pure apples and oranges comparison.  First of all, you aren't getting paid millions of dollars to smoke cigarettes.  Secondly, at the end of a football career there is a small chance that you could develop CTE as opposed to a 100% chance that your health will be impacted negatively by smoking cigarettes for a lifetime.  The difference being that in one instance you get paid millions and there is a chance your health is impacted, and the other being you pay money for guaranteed health issues.  Small Chance vs Guaranteed Certainty 

 

We might say someone is afraid of jumping out of a plane with a parachute, but nobody calls them chicken for not jumping out of a plane without a parachute.

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Am i a wuss when i get [BAD WORD REMOVED] drunk and decide not to drive home because i might kill myself, someone else, or end up in jail?

Yolo!!!!!11!11!!!

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

Am i a wuss when i get [BAD WORD REMOVED] drunk and decide not to drive home because i might kill myself, someone else, or end up in jail?

 

What do you want me to say?  

 

Yes?  

 

Sure, you are a giant wuss for not breaking the law and needlessly endangering lives for no reason.  Happy?

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He absolutely has the right to choose do do whatever he wants to do.  It doesn't mean we all have to have the same opinion of the man.  I think he is acting like a wuss and you should support my right to choose how I view a person.

 

You have not experienced the symptoms he has.  You have not played middle linebacker for an entire college career and in the NFL, so... this is why your judgments come off as extremely ignorant.  Middle linebacker could be the WORST when it comes to concussions. 

 

The guy calling it quits early actually takes courage.  He made the "smart" choice.  He might have kept playing and been fine, but its not cowardly to foresee potential problems and do a risk\reward analysis.  He could easily sign up for the police force tomorrow and consider the rewards greater than the risks.  The reward is serving somebody else and a higher calling.  Playing pro football is mostly about money and glory, not about others. 

 

You shouldn't fault somebody for not playing Russian roulette with their mind and body.  that's basically what you're doing if you play for long in the NFL. 

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You have not experienced the symptoms he has.  You have not played middle linebacker for an entire college career and in the NFL, so... this is why your judgments come off as extremely ignorant.  Middle linebacker could be the WORST when it comes to concussions. 

 

The guy calling it quits early actually takes courage.  He made the "smart" choice.  He might have kept playing and been fine, but its not cowardly to foresee potential problems and do a risk\reward analysis.  He could easily sign up for the police force tomorrow and consider the rewards greater than the risks.  The reward is serving somebody else and a higher calling.  Playing pro football is mostly about money and glory, not about others.  Families would actually prefer them not play football and seriously hurt themselves.

 

You shouldn't fault somebody for not playing Russian roulette with their mind and body.  that's basically what you're doing if you play for long in the NFL. 

 

How do you know that I haven't had a concussion before?  I certainly have.  And while I didn't play football in college, I did play middle linebacker, sam linebacker, and strong safety in high school.  I also have coached wrestling for 7 years.  I am also a nationally/state registered EMT.  I am far from ignorant on concussions.  

 

This guy, self-admittedly, said he considered only playing 1 season in the NFL even before he was drafted.  He told most of his family as much.  He never told that to the team who would be drafting him or anybody else.  That is very cowardice and selfish behavior.  He can do whatever he wants and try to justify it however he wants - I don't care.  The unfiltered truth is that he quit football because he was afraid of a future injury that hasn't happened.  There is no denying that.  Let's be clear, this wasn't a retirement - it was him quitting.

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How do you know that I haven't had a concussion before? I certainly have. And while I didn't play football in college, I did play middle linebacker, sam linebacker, and strong safety in high school. I also have coached wrestling for 7 years. I am also a nationally/state registered EMT. I am far from ignorant on concussions.


This guy, self-admittedly, said he considered only playing 1 season in the NFL even before he was drafted. He told most of his family as much. He never told that to the team who would be drafting him or anybody else. That is very cowardice and selfish behavior. He can do whatever he wants and try to justify it however he wants - I don't care. The unfiltered truth is that he quit football because he was afraid of a future injury that hasn't happened. There is no denying that. Let's be clear, this wasn't a retirement - it was him quitting.

And yet you bash the guy for going against expert medical advice?

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

And yet you bash the guy for going against expert medical advice?

 

He didn't have any expert medical advice.

 

He talked to researchers who said there is an increased risk (which is true).  No medical advice was given.  No doctor told him that if he continued to play that he would suffer permanent injury.

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So basically from skimming this...


Money > anything


Always do something that can seriously hurt you, if the money is good enough


EMTs don't realize even a single concussion can have long term effects, even if no current symptoms are shown


Youre not a man if you decide the risk/reward isnt worth it...


You know, there's plenty of other ways to make millions if you don't feel like getting hit all the time.

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IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS

He didn't have any expert medical advice.


He talked to researchers who said there is an increased risk (which is true). No medical advice was given. No doctor told him that if he continued to play that he would suffer permanent injury.

Titles aside, (even though I'm quite positive one of those experts hold a PH.D in something ) he consulted with experts who are more versed in concussions and neurodegenerative diseases than you or I correct?

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"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

So basically from skimming this...


Money > anything


Always do something that can seriously hurt you, if the money is good enough


EMTs don't realize even a single concussion can have long term effects, even if no current symptoms are shown


Youre not a man if you decide the risk/reward isnt worth it...


You know, there's plenty of other ways to make millions if you don't feel like getting hit all the time.

 

Very good. 

 

May I also suggest adding:

 

- There is no God.

- Women shouldn't be allowed to vote.

- Lobotomy should be performed on the mentally disabled.

- Abraham Lincoln was a vampire.

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Titles aside, (even though I'm quite positive one of those experts hold a PH.D in something ) he consulted with experts who are more versed in concussions and neurodegenerative diseases than you or I correct?

 

No, you missed it.  He's an EMT and played high school football.  He's an expert.

 

He's like a real life Chuck Norris.  We all try to measure up to his manliness but it cant be done.

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Titles aside, (even though I'm quite positive one of those experts hold a PH.D in something ) he consulted with experts who are more versed in concussions and neurodegenerative diseases than you or I correct?

 

Yes, of course.

 

It has nothing to do with titles, however.  Its the difference between medical advice vs clinical research.  One is what your doctors would tell you personally and the other attempts to find cause/effect correlations.  They told him there was more risk for permanent injury playing professional football - duh.  No doctor told him that he was any more at risk than any other professional football player, however.

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