I don't think any team will give up a 1st day pick for Adrian Peterson.   And I agree that the Jags probably won't satisfy the Vikings from the standpoint of trade compensation.   However,  I do think there's a very realistic chance that the Arizona Cardinals will be willing to pay as high as the equivalent of a 2nd Round pick for Peterson.  

 

With Carson Palmer entering his 13th NFL season and Larry Fitzgerald entering his 12th NFL season,  there's a high degree of urgency for the Cardinals to get over the top in the 2015 season.    If the Vikings can convince the Cardinals brass that there's significant competition for Peterson's services,  I think a trade with Arizona will be worked out.   With Ben Dogra and the Cardinals restructuring Peterson's contract in a manner that both sides will be content. 

 

This^.  There is no real mention of us being interested, just a possible suited party. There have been numerous statements saying Arizona is willing to trade a high pick if he hits the trading block. I foresee him with the Cardinals.

 

GO JAGS!!

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So judgmental in this topic today; Pierce's prior; and Hardy's before that. Are we now the Jacksonville Religions of the Judicials? Just wondering...... 

 

P.S. Everybody makes mistakes. Forgiveness is the ultimate strength. I'd take AP/AD for a 4th or lower. Nothing higher. However, I'd prefer to draft our future workhorse.

 

 

GO JAGS!!

I'm sorry.  Are we not allowed to have an opinion about his behavior?  Must be nice up there in that ivory tower.

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This^.  There is no real mention of us being interested, just a possible suited party. There have been numerous statements saying Arizona is willing to trade a high pick if he hits the trading block. I foresee him with the Cardinals.

 

GO JAGS!!

Rapoport included the Jags as one of the teams he'd expect to see in the mix, just as he did the other teams he listed, Arizona included.  

 

Yes, Arizona is the most likely spot if a team is willing to trade for his services.  But, even if I was a Cards fan, I'd want the team to sit on their draft picks and offer a day 3 pick at best for his services.  This is still a 30 year old back with a bloated contract.  No telling when he hits that wall, but usually when backs do, it happens very quickly.  I wouldn't want my team spending $12-16 million per year for a guy who has hit a wall.  Especially when there is a strong possibility of getting a quality back in the draft.  That's one of the main reasons I don't want to see the Jags jumping into this mix.  I could see it for Murray...sort of.  I still had my reservations there based on what he wanted per year vs. the history of backs who have around 400 carries in a season and how that impacts them the following year. 

 

Peterson may still have a couple of good years in him.  There's no way of knowing for sure.  I wouldn't want to gamble a decent draft pick or picks to find out.

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This^.  There is no real mention of us being interested, just a possible suited party. There have been numerous statements saying Arizona is willing to trade a high pick if he hits the trading block. I foresee him with the Cardinals.

 

GO JAGS!!

 

 If the Jags were 1 to 3 years further along in the rebuilding process of the team,  it would be easier to envision the Jags being willing to pull the trigger on a trade for Adrian Peterson that satisfied the Vikings.    Based on where the Jags currently are,   unless the trade compensation for Peterson turns out to be much lower than I expect,   it probably would make more sense for the Jags to use a draft pick in Round 2,  3, or 4 on a RB who is viewed as an important  element in the growth of the team.

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 If the Jags were 1 to 3 years further along in the rebuilding process of the team,  it would be easier to envision the Jags being willing to pull the trigger on a trade for Adrian Peterson that satisfied the Vikings.    Based on where the Jags currently are,   unless the trade compensation for Peterson turns out to be much lower than I expect,   it probably would make more sense for the Jags to use a draft pick in Round 2,  3, or 4 on a RB who is viewed as an important  element in the growth of the team.

Using a draft pick to fill the RB position would fall more in line with the way this team has been focusing their energy. 

 

I agree with you that if we were further along in the process, and the only hole we had to deal with was RB, then maybe the team would be more inclined to work out some sort of deal.  That's not the case.  I think your point does hold merit with Arizona and the sense of urgency there, but I still don't think even the Cards would roll the dice and give up a high draft pick to make this deal happen.  Mid round?  Maybe. 

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  My overall take on the Vikings and the Adrian Peterson situation is that the plan is for them to try to maximize his trade value.   Rick Spielman did this with Percy Harvin,   when publicly saying that the Vikings aren't attempting to trade Harvin.   Not long afterwards,  Harvin was on his way to Seattle for 1st and 7th Round picks in 2013 and a 3rd Round pick in 2014.   While I don't think Spielman realistically expects anything close to that trade package in return for Peterson,   he's trying to make the best of a bad situation.

 

 

 I believe Peterson probably has at least one more season as a differential runner.  Yet,  I totally understand the thought process of not wanting to trade for him.   That much more if the trade compensation is the equivalent of at least a 2nd Round pick.    With Peterson's off the field baggage,  even a 3rd Round pick might not be worth it for a team in the Jaguars position.   This despite the team's very favorable salary cap situation.    Though I don't think Peterson will have the level of negative backlash that a Ray Rice or Greg Hardy addition would have had,   there still would be a significant distraction if Peterson came into the team's fold. 

A little off topic, but i'm suprised to see Seattle not learn this lesson and shell out another 1st on JG.  Eventually, this kind of stuff is gonna bite them, i guess they are just focused on striking while the iron is hot.  I think the Saints got the best of that deal.  It'll be interesting to see Beast Mode, with another year of age under his belt, not running behind Max Unger.

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A little off topic, but i'm suprised to see Seattle not learn this lesson and shell out another 1st on JG.  Eventually, this kind of stuff is gonna bite them, i guess they are just focused on striking while the iron is hot.  I think the Saints got the best of that deal.  It'll be interesting to see Beast Mode, with another year of age under his belt, not running behind Max Unger.

 

No doubt.  If you felt your team was a player or two away from getting another ring, you roll the dice and suffer the consequences of losing those draft picks down the road.  That's all fine and good if it pans out and you walk away with another ring.  But, if you sell your soul to win a title and you don't, ouch.

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No doubt.  If you felt your team was a player or two away from getting another ring, you roll the dice and suffer the consequences of losing those draft picks down the road.  That's all fine and good if it pans out and you walk away with another ring.  But, if you sell your soul to win a title and you don't, ouch.

Exactly.  I'd expect to see a fairly dramatic regression in a few years.  For a team whose offense was heavily reliant on running the football, it'll be very intersting to see how this works out.

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I'm sorry.  Are we not allowed to have an opinion about his behavior?  Must be nice up there in that ivory tower.

 

Lol. Opinions are fine, but there's a lot of judging going on (which could be considered the same thing I guess, but I see them as different). And if I'm in an Ivory Tower, man the value of Ivory must have depleted beyond belief haha.

 

 

 If the Jags were 1 to 3 years further along in the rebuilding process of the team,  it would be easier to envision the Jags being willing to pull the trigger on a trade for Adrian Peterson that satisfied the Vikings.    Based on where the Jags currently are,   unless the trade compensation for Peterson turns out to be much lower than I expect,   it probably would make more sense for the Jags to use a draft pick in Round 2,  3, or 4 on a RB who is viewed as an important  element in the growth of the team.

 

I agree. If we weren't still in the early phase of the rebuild, I'd be more positive about the possibility and the percentage of it happening. I don't see it happening. Just like the rumors of us being interested in Hardy; this feels the same. I don't see it happening.

 

GO JAGS!!

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Exactly.  I'd expect to see a fairly dramatic regression in a few years.  For a team whose offense was heavily reliant on running the football, it'll be very intersting to see how this works out.

What we know is that most mobile QBs have a limited shelf life.  They simply can't take the beating.  Wilson will find that out eventually.  When that happens, Seattle will see their fortunes change very quickly.

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I would give up a 3rd only if he would restructure his contract. If we get AP, we will be able to compete at a high level in our division with the defense on the rise. 

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I would give up a 3rd only if he would restructure his contract. If we get AP, we will be able to compete at a high level in our division with the defense on the rise. 

Why, we have plenty of money.  We don't have plenty of high draft pics.  No thanks.

 

Now a 6th or 7th, sure, but it'll never happen.

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I wonder if all the high and mighties in this thread would have moved on from Ray Lewis back in the day?

Yeah, I would have.

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I don't believe Rapoport saying the Jags have interest is true whatsoever. I think it's really lazy "oo the Jags have money and showed some interest in Demarco so surely they have interest in AD". 

 

Dave wasn't willing to go close to 8 mil per year for Demarco, he ain't gonna come close to giving almost 12 mil for AD this year (3/43 next 3 yrs) in addition to giving up a draft pick to do it. 

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I don't believe Rapoport saying the Jags have interest is true whatsoever. I think it's really lazy "oo the Jags have money and showed some interest in Demarco so surely they have interest in AD". 

 

Dave wasn't willing to go close to 8 mil per year for Demarco, he ain't gonna come close to giving almost 12 mil for AD this year (3/43 next 3 yrs) in addition to giving up a draft pick to do it. 

 

I agree with this 100%. If they weren't going to go 8 a year for Murray they aren't going to go 10-12 for AD at age 30. It is not logical at all.

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I agree with this 100%. If they weren't going to go 8 a year for Murray they aren't going to go 10-12 for AD at age 30. It is not logical at all.

The difference is that there is no guaranteed money if you trade for Peterson. You can cut him at any time with no additional cost. Murray was guaranteed 21 million. Peterson's contract is also only 3 years as opposed to 5. Peterson actually has the better contract, from a team perspective, although maybe not to Shad Khan's wallet.

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Why are you all calling Peterson by his often stated hated nickname AP? He has said many times that he wants to be called by his actual nickname "all day" or AD. 

 

What will he do, spank us?

 

Oh, wait...

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Rumors are AP is not gonna resign with the Vikings, with that being said if you were Caldwell would you take a shot at a trade for him? I personally would offer them Gerhart, Henne and a third rounder for him .Lol but I'm sure they would deny that!

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Rumors are AP is not gonna resign with the Vikings, with that being said if you were Caldwell would you take a shot at a trade for him? I personally would offer them Gerhart, Henne and a third rounder for him .Lol but I'm sure they would deny that!

 

I wouldn't offer them a 3rd, are you crazy?

 

I'd offer them a 7th, take it or leave it.

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Rumors are AP is not gonna resign with the Vikings, with that being said if you were Caldwell would you take a shot at a trade for him? I personally would offer them Gerhart, Henne and a third rounder for him .Lol but I'm sure they would deny that!

He doesn't have to re-sign with the Vikings. HE'S UNDER CONTRACT.


Oh...lol.

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