Dave didn't over think anything. He has Bortles as his guy before the combine, and he even said all of our scouts individually chose Bortles as the guy too. Teddy's pro day had no effect on us drafting him.


Also sure, the assumption that Teddy would be killed behind our line is just that, an assumption. But so is thinking he'd have any sort of similar success as he did in Minnesota.


I like Teddy, but IMO I think Bortles has a much higher ceiling. I'll gladly wait another year or two for him to be a top 10 QB than have an average one for 15 years.

 

I think the concept that Bortles has the chance to be better than Bridgewater is why the situation is what it is right now. Bridgewater was simply fantastic in the NCAAs, but it just seemed like he was not going to get much better. That is not to say that he won't have a nice career and lead teams to a lot of wins, but is he really going to be able to tilt the field in his favor? I don't think so, but I've been wrong before.

 

Bortles gives you a chance to have a guy that can change the game in your favor. That's why he's on the Roster instead of Bridgewater. Just my $0.02

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/pl...idTe00.htm

 

Well, he had a decent rookie season.

 

Not great. 

 

But not the unmitigated failure so many on this board predicted.

 

From a purely statistical standpoint, his year was better than Bortles.

 

Were there factors outside of Bortles and Bridgewater that contributed to the disparity?  Absolutely.

 

Is the final career story for these two players written?  Absolutely not.

 

But in the aftermath of his pro day workout, his detractors insisted he could not play in this league.  His rookie year performance shows he can.

 

With Bridgewater (and most players on other teams), their success, or lack thereof, doesn't move the needle for me. But for some reason, Bridgewater seems to be a situation where people on both sides of the aisle are so steadfast in digging their heels in on one side or the other. And it is not just people on this message board.

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With Bridgewater (and most players on other teams), their success, or lack thereof, doesn't move the needle for me. But for some reason, Bridgewater seems to be a situation where people on both sides of the aisle are so steadfast in digging their heels in on one side or the other. And it is not just people on this message board.

It seems odd that some of the guys who-at least outwardly-seem so nice and polite, etc. (Bridgewater, Tebow) can be so polarizing.

 

Perhaps it's just the position.

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Worst to 1st.  Curse Reversed!

Bortles' potential > Bridgewater's potential

 

 

I have zero "sour feelings" about this.   That said - Bridgewater should be a quality QB if he stays healthy.  

I was on board if we had drafted him, but I feel good about Blake.  Our #5 just needs a better line and some strong fundamental foundation work.   I think he'll get both. 

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Just went back and watched some of bridgewater's play from last year. That'll give you a sour feeling reaaaaally quick. But hey, the "front office knows better than the fans" right?

 

Most of the time, yes, they do. 

 

Nothing I saw from Bridgewater last year gave me a sour feeling.  We got the guy with more upside.  Bridgewater behind our line last year would have been a tragedy. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

The thing is what you see with Bridgewater is what your going to keep getting. He's like Ryan Tannehill in the sense of he'll make some plays that will have you like "Hey, that was great" until he hits his cold streak then you realize those golden moments are few and far between and really all there is. Not to mention, he was working with a cast of veterans who made his transition into the NFL easier where a guy like Bortles was starting with pretty much all rookies.

 

The ceiling for Bortles is much higher and that's what you need from a QB. Someone who will grow and continue to develop. Re-do the draft and I take Bortles every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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The thing is what you see with Bridgewater is what your going to keep getting. He's like Ryan Tannehill in the sense of he'll make some plays that will have you like "Hey, that was great" until he hits his cold streak then you realize those golden moments are few and far between and really all there is. Not to mention, he was working with a cast of veterans who made his transition into the NFL easier where a guy like Bortles was starting with pretty much all rookies.

 

The ceiling for Bortles is much higher and that's what you need from a QB. Someone who will grow and continue to develop. Re-do the draft and I take Bortles every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Amen 

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It seems odd that some of the guys who-at least outwardly-seem so nice and polite, etc. (Bridgewater, Tebow) can be so polarizing.

 

Perhaps it's just the position.

 

Could be. And the amount of people obsessed with saying "I was right" when it is meaningless.

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The thing is what you see with Bridgewater is what your going to keep getting. He's like Ryan Tannehill in the sense of he'll make some plays that will have you like "Hey, that was great" until he hits his cold streak then you realize those golden moments are few and far between and really all there is. Not to mention, he was working with a cast of veterans who made his transition into the NFL easier where a guy like Bortles was starting with pretty much all rookies.

 

The ceiling for Bortles is much higher and that's what you need from a QB. Someone who will grow and continue to develop. Re-do the draft and I take Bortles every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

 

No you won't. The Draft isn't held on a Sunday.

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

No you won't. The Draft isn't held on a Sunday.

 

Boom.

 

Roasted.

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Teddy is alex smith clone bro so go to work and have a good day. lol.

This might be the dumbest post ive ever read. Teddy has way better pocket presence than dmith had as a rookie. Not even close. Way better feel for the pro game.

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There are just as many on this board (and Twitter) that are quick to prop him up as some proof they were right. This thread and many others have been created.

I dont think you realize how many people were all over the teddy bandwagon. A lot of fans were disappointed in the bortles pick because they wanted teddy. And at this point, teddy has shown a lot more promise.

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Dave didn't over think anything. He has Bortles as his guy before the combine, and he even said all of our scouts individually chose Bortles as the guy too. Teddy's pro day had no effect on us drafting him.


Also sure, the assumption that Teddy would be killed behind our line is just that, an assumption. But so is thinking he'd have any sort of similar success as he did in Minnesota.


I like Teddy, but IMO I think Bortles has a much higher ceiling. I'll gladly wait another year or two for him to be a top 10 QB than have an average one for 15 years.

question is, will the next gm keep him around if it takes 2 more years? Because we could be looking at a whole new regime by then. I just didnt think blake was the right pick for this team at that moment. Needed a guy who could come in and lead by example right away. Blake needed a year or two to sit. Should have never gone #3.

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I watched a lot of Teddy in college and there was nothing that I liked about him at all. I'm glad we didn't get him. He may end up being something, but I HIGHLY, HIGHLY doubt that he is anything, but a Colt McCoy come 3-4 years from now. I don't think the same thing about Bortles, so give me Bortles.

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Most of the time, yes, they do.


Nothing I saw from Bridgewater last year gave me a sour feeling. We got the guy with more upside. Bridgewater behind our line last year would have been a tragedy.

That upside will mean nothing if it doesnt lead to results. I liked him as a longer term prospect. But you dont draft a project at #3 if you dont have a qb established who he can sit behind. Dave was right, blake probably should have sat all year. But you couldnt justify doing that with henne as your top option.

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I watched a lot of Teddy in college and there was nothing that I liked about him at all. I'm glad we didn't get him. He may end up being something, but I HIGHLY, HIGHLY doubt that he is anything, but a Colt McCoy come 3-4 years from now. I don't think the same thing about Bortles, so give me Bortles.

HARD HITTING ANALYSIS

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The tannehill comparison to teddy is a joke too. Teddy was way more pro ready. If anything Blake is more like tannehill in that they both were unpolished guys drafted largely because of their athleticism and stature alone

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I dont think you realize how many people were all over the teddy bandwagon. A lot of fans were disappointed in the bortles pick because they wanted teddy. And at this point, teddy has shown a lot more promise.

 

The "bandwagon" was pretty light on draft day last year.

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That upside will mean nothing if it doesnt lead to results. I liked him as a longer term prospect. But you dont draft a project at #3 if you dont have a qb established who he can sit behind. Dave was right, blake probably should have sat all year. But you couldnt justify doing that with henne as your top option.

 

Gosh!  That's some revelation there!  If his upsdide doesn't lead to results, it means nothing!  Who knew?!?!

 

Any other statements of the obvious you'd like to toss out there?  Water is wet?  The sky is blue?  Teach us all, oh wise one!

 

If you think a QB will become a franchise level QB, and you grade him as such, whether he requires development or not, you draft him.  It's not rocket science.  This front office believed he was the best QB in the draft.  They had the opportunity to draft him, Bridgewater, or Manziel, and they went with the guy they felt was the only true potential franchise QB.  Time will tell if they were right or wrong in that assessment.  But, they clearly didn't see Bridgewater as being anything more than a decent QB with limitations. Otherwise, he'd be the Jags QB. 

 

You're welcome to go back and look at all of Teddy's highlights if it gives you the warm fuzzies.  Ultimately, he is what he is.  He's not going to grow into a more sturdy version of himself. 

 

question is, will the next gm keep him around if it takes 2 more years? Because we could be looking at a whole new regime by then. I just didnt think blake was the right pick for this team at that moment. Needed a guy who could come in and lead by example right away. Blake needed a year or two to sit. Should have never gone #3.

 

All indications are that Bortles IS leading by example, but feel free to keep your head buried in the orifice of your choosing to avoid that fact.

 

The "bandwagon" was pretty light on draft day last year.

 

I'm pretty sure the only disappointed folks were the diva and the OP. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Teddy played good last year.  He started slow, but ended very nicely. 

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