<div>Had the Jaguars had Peyton Manning in his prime while JDR was the head coach, the Jaguars would have been scary good imo (Better than the Colts were). JDR doesn't get the credit he deserves from the Jaguars fanbase. Then again, that same fanbase ran Coughlin out of town.
 
It was probably good timing for both to leave, anyway, and get a fresh start somewhere else, not unlike Andy Reid, or John Fox ... Another coach I think will come blazing back is Lovie Smith. ... I always thought Smith got the most out of the Players he had. He understood the limitation, and strength of his players, and team. Rex Grossman, starting Superbowl Quarterback. I seen it with my own eyes.
 
I hope Fox can take himself away from the game, and trust the coaches that work under him to do what he hired them to do. He needs to focus on his health, and getting better. I know these guys are workaholics, and that type of stress isn't conducive to the best way to recover from ... of all things, heart related illness, or damage.
 
Get Well, John Fox. ... which is better than RIP.
 

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I liked Del Rio when he was here. I think was a good coach in an underdog role and seemed to get a lot out of fringe players. His teams had plenty of wins they had no business winning. And they never seemed to be intimidated by anybody.

 

On the flip side though, three times (2004, 2006, 2010) his teams had chances to secure playoff spots and lost.

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Sammy, I don't agree with everything you said, but thanks for reminding everyone this is not about football. It just happened to be a football coach who suffered. Too many fans think the big problem is JDR beinb the interim head coach. Truth be told, we saw last year (especially you, being a Colts fan) that is not a bad thing for team; only the sick coach has a problem, not his employer. JDR won't be named Coach of the Year no matter what he does (nobody can take that award away from Andy Reid), but he will keep the Broncos on their feet through the next 4-6 games.

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I liked Del Rio when he was here. I think was a good coach in an underdog role and seemed to get a lot out of fringe players. His teams had plenty of wins they had no business winning. And they never seemed to be intimidated by anybody.

 

On the flip side though, three times (2004, 2006, 2010) his teams had chances to secure playoff spots and lost.

 

All three of those seasons, someone named Peyton Manning was the quarterback at Indianapolis. The Titans and Texans could not catch up with the Colts either.

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All three of those seasons, someone named Peyton Manning was the quarterback at Indianapolis. The Titans and Texans could not catch up with the Colts either.

 

It wasn't about catching the Colts in two of those years. In 2004, they got shut out at home by a bad Texans team and cost themselves a Wild Card berth.

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C'mon Houston!  Do it!

 

How awesome would that be????? :yes: 

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<div>Had the Jaguars had Peyton Manning in his prime while JDR was the head coach, the Jaguars would have been scary good imo (Better than the Colts were). JDR doesn't get the credit he deserves from the Jaguars fanbase. Then again, that same fanbase ran Coughlin out of town.
 
 

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LOL....point one is hilarious....Had MOST TEAMS had Peyton Manning in his prime while (insert coach here) was there, they'd have also been scary good. 

 

Point 2: JDR is probably seen as better to you because of how the Jags always would usually play the Colts tough (and usually still lose, lets not forget that part)...

 

Point 3. Yeah, running Coughlin out of town was stupid. Coughlin actually produced here - won 2 consecutive division titles and had a 42-11 record over a 3+ year stretch at one point from late '96 to early 2000. Won 4 playoff games.

 

JDR's high water mark was a single wild card playoff victory. 

 

JDR's teams also missed the playoffs like 3 seasons, when all they needed was a single victory down the stretch to lock it up. One year they were SHUT OUT at HOME vs a BAD Texans team while they had a playoff birth hanging in the balance. 

 

The above quote is nothing but tripe. 

 

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Point 3. Yeah, running Coughlin out of town was stupid. Coughlin actually produced here - won 2 consecutive division titles and had a 42-11 over a 3+ year stretch at one point from late 96 to early 2000. Won 4 playoff games.

 

The team had three straight losing seasons under Coughlin. It was time for a change. Weaver probably should have fired him after the 2001 season when the team underperformed and was so far over the cap they had to dump half of their roster. Would have been a good time to start over. The 2002 season was basically a joke.

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The team had three straight losing seasons under Coughlin. It was time for a change. Weaver probably should have fired him after the 2001 season when the team underperformed and was so far over the cap they had to dump half of their roster. Would have been a good time to start over. The 2002 season was basically a joke.

 

Oh please the team lost because it needed to rebuild thats all. 

 

The fact that Coughlin was STILL able to get that team competitive enough that they STILL had positive point differentials for both 6-10 seasons should tell you all you need to know about how good of a head coach he was. 

 

He never should have been fired. All that should have been done was to get a separate GM in here that could work WITH Coughlin. Coughlin being stripped of the GM responsibility was as far as any "firing" should have gone. 

 

"Coaching" was never an issue. He was a fine head coach. 

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Coughlin is a fine coach and did some great things with the Jaguars. But it was time for a change. For the team and for Coughlin.

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Get well soon, John Fox.

 

Good luck to whoever fills his shoes the rest of the season.  His next opponents: At a pretty good Chargers team, the Chiefs, at New England, at the Chiefs.

 

Brutal.

 

I hope it's Jack, and I hope he kills it.

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It remains to be seen who the Broncos interim Head Coach will be:

 

 

Studesville could be the Broncos interim head coach

 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/201...ead-coach/

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Get well soon, John Fox.

 

Good luck to whoever fills his shoes the rest of the season.  His next opponents: At a pretty good Chargers team, the Chiefs, at New England, at the Chiefs.

 

Brutal.

 

I hope it's Jack, and I hope he kills it.

 

 

I hope its Jack too, and I could see him losing all 4. 

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Oh please the team lost because it needed to rebuild thats all. 

 

The fact that Coughlin was STILL able to get that team competitive enough that they STILL had positive point differentials for both 6-10 seasons should tell you all you need to know about how good of a head coach he was. 

 

He never should have been fired. All that should have been done was to get a separate GM in here that could work WITH Coughlin. Coughlin being stripped of the GM responsibility was as far as any "firing" should have gone. 

 

"Coaching" was never an issue. He was a fine head coach. 

 

Of course, you don't live here, so you don't have a clue.

 

If Wayne Weaver has had enough, you've really screwed up.

 

Coughlin failed at his job of defacto GM. Yes, he had help. But it was clear that Coughlin thought he was god and didn't want to lose authority.

 

Once it was clear which way the team and salary cap was headed it was clear it was time for a change.

 

I doubt Coughlin, if he was being objective, really minded. After a point people stop listening to you. It was time to go.

 

And he ended up with his dream job, so he's fine.

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The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.

Of course, you don't live here, so you don't have a clue.

 

If Wayne Weaver has had enough, you've really screwed up.

 

Coughlin failed at his job of defacto GM. Yes, he had help. But it was clear that Coughlin thought he was god and didn't want to lose authority.

 

Once it was clear which way the team and salary cap was headed it was clear it was time for a change.

 

I doubt Coughlin, if he was being objective, really minded. After a point people stop listening to you. It was time to go.

 

And he ended up with his dream job, so he's fine.

 

No, Weaver is the one that screwed up. 

 

His idea of changing the operation of the front office and having "multiple voices" never did work....and he clearly DOWNGRADED with the head coaching change from Coughlin to JDR. 

 

None of the above makes any real case that Coughlin was doing a bad job at head coach and needed to be replaced. 

 

As I said, Coughlin the GM/ head coach combo needed to be split, yes. A new GM that could have co-existed with Coughlin should have been brought in. That should have been the only change back then. 

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LOL....point one is hilarious....Had MOST TEAMS had Peyton Manning in his prime while (insert coach here) was there, they'd have also been scary good. 

 

Point 2: JDR is probably seen as better to you because of how the Jags always would usually play the Colts tough (and usually still lose, lets not forget that part)...

 

Point 3. Yeah, running Coughlin out of town was stupid. Coughlin actually produced here - won 2 consecutive division titles and had a 42-11 record over a 3+ year stretch at one point from late '96 to early 2000. Won 4 playoff games.

 

JDR's high water mark was a single wild card playoff victory. 

 

JDR's teams also missed the playoffs like 3 seasons, when all they needed was a single victory down the stretch to lock it up. One year they were SHUT OUT at HOME vs a BAD Texans team while they had a playoff birth hanging in the balance. 

 

The above quote is nothing but tripe. 

 

You have no credibility Mad Dog, you have wasted it time, and again. 0% credibility, and that has been well deserved, you have earned it.
 
You give me one successful head coach, and I will give you one/two/three/four/five (etc) important games he didn't win. I can do that by cherry picking ... you know what that is Mr. Dog? That is what you have done since your first post. You cherry pick to support a point. (Yeah, it is noticed)
 
Here is a good one, JDR has lost less important games as a head coach than you have been right. Shall I cherry pick some of those instances that you were wrong to prove my point?
 
You throw your own credibility out the window, and then wonder where it went. :yes:

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Get well soon, John Fox.

 

Good luck to whoever fills his shoes the rest of the season.  His next opponents: At a pretty good Chargers team, the Chiefs, at New England, at the Chiefs.

 

Brutal.

 

I hope it's Jack, and I hope he kills it.

 

That is a pretty brutal stretch, divisional games against good opponents, and a trip to Foxboro (Foxborough)?

 

Patriots just don't lose home games too often. Should be some great games to watch. I hope I have a good handle on these games/players, going to be quite tricky to navigate in fantasy. :wacko: 

 

 

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<div>You have no credibility Mad Dog, you have wasted it time, and again. 0% credibility, and that has been well deserved, you have earned it.
 
You give me one successful head coach, and I will give you one/two/three/four/five (etc) important games he didn't win. I can do that by cherry picking ... you know what that is Mr. Dog? That is what you have done since your first post. You cherry pick to support a point. (Yeah, it is noticed)
 
Here is a good one, JDR has lost less important games as a head coach than you have been right. Shall I cherry pick some of those instances that you were wrong to prove my point?
 
You throw your own credibility out the window, and then wonder where it went. :yes:
 

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lol, I destroy your argument a few posts above, and you hang on the "you have no credibility" stuff.... hehe. 

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lol, I destroy your argument a few posts above, and you hang on the "you have no credibility" stuff.... hehe. 

 

The only thing you have ever destroyed is your own credibility.

 

Give me the name of the modern era coach that has won every important game, Cherry Picker. You can't and you know it, but it would be fun to watch you try. :woot:

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The team had three straight losing seasons under Coughlin. It was time for a change. Weaver probably should have fired him after the 2001 season when the team underperformed and was so far over the cap they had to dump half of their roster. Would have been a good time to start over. The 2002 season was basically a joke.

I don't know about that.



Even Weaver eventually came out and said he regrets firing Coughlin.

“If hindsight you could change, I’ll be honest with you: I probably would have never changed Coughlin,” Weaver said. “I would have tried to have Tom take a step back and just be the coach. I thought about it, but I didn’t think Tom would do it. I thought Tom’s pride would never allow him to take a step back and me take the general manager’s position and all power and say, ‘Go coach the football team.’ He did that in New York, but I thought it would hurt his pride too much.”

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.jaguars.com/news/article-1/Wayne-Weaver-QA/a755f280-4962-4d75-a4fb-0a52300b6ac3'>http://www.jaguars.com/news/article-1/Wayne-Weaver-QA/a755f280-4962-4d75-a4fb-0a52300b6ac3</a>

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