A couple of nice plays that I grabbed quickly of Beasley:

 



 

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Trade down withe the Jets to #6. This is assuming the tacks don't trade down and instead take Williams. Or the Jets are willing to trade up for Williams if the QBs are both gone by our pick.


 

The two QBs and Williams go 1-3.


Oakland at 4 is taking a WR.


 

That leaves either Fowler or Beasley (or both) at 6. We get one of the two guys who fit our need at LEO, and end up with at least an extra 2nd round pick.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

A couple of nice plays that I grabbed quickly of Beasley:

 



 

 

i could go find a couple nice plays from gabbert.... or harvey. i hate when people put up a few plays or even a highlight video. you can make the case for almost anyone like that. 

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

i could go find a couple nice plays from gabbert.... or harvey. i hate when people put up a few plays or even a highlight video. you can make the case for almost anyone like that. 

 

Except Reggie Williams. Even his 'highlights' showed nothing. What a stupid pick.

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"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

Except Reggie Williams. Even his 'highlights' showed nothing. What a stupid pick.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAyhX0bkl3Y

 

maybe the fact that its only 44 seconds long is the alarming factor... hahahahaha

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

i could go find a couple nice plays from gabbert.... or harvey. i hate when people put up a few plays or even a highlight video. you can make the case for almost anyone like that. 

LOL.  What?  I'm not "making a case."  I just posted a couple of gifs relevant to the thread. I'm no big proponent of Beasley. 

 

Hate all you want  -- but you're making something out of nothing.  Relax.

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LOL.  What?  I'm not "making a case."  I just posted a couple of gifs relevant to the thread. I'm no big proponent of Beasley. 

 

Hate all you want  -- but you're making something out of nothing.  Relax.

 

so what was the point of your post?

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

so what was the point of your post?

The point was to post a couple of gifs that showed Beasley making a good play.  I did that. 

 

You got your panties twisted.  Sorry.  You gonna' be able to get over it and move on now? 

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Here's a couple of nice plays by Fowler: 

 



 

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The point was to post a couple of gifs that showed Beasley making a good play.  I did that. 

 

You got your panties twisted.  Sorry.  You gonna' be able to get over it and move on now? 

 

my panties werent in a twist. i was just saying whats the point of showing some good plays by a player?

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

my panties werent in a twist. i was just saying whats the point of showing some good plays by a player?

It's a message board where we talk about football players a lot.  So -  I can see now that watching those players actually do the things we are discussing is completely pointless and irrelevant.  My bad.  What was I thinking?

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It's a message board where we talk about football players a lot.  So -  I can see now that watching those players actually do the things we are discussing is completely pointless and irrelevant.  My bad.  What was I thinking?

 

at least you admit you were wrong. 

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

Trade down withe the Jets to #6. This is assuming the tacks don't trade down and instead take Williams. Or the Jets are willing to trade up for Williams if the QBs are both gone by our pick.


 

The two QBs and Williams go 1-3.


Oakland at 4 is taking a WR.


 

That leaves either Fowler or Beasley (or both) at 6. We get one of the two guys who fit our need at LEO, and end up with at least an extra 2nd round pick.

Thats best case scenario for us, extra pick plus the guy we want 

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<B><FONT color=cyan>Jags this is your year</FONT></B>

Here is a good discussion about the top guys on D and who we should take at 3

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000...draft-pick

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I do think Beasley is the perfect LEO wherein I give him the edge over Fowler, but there's two things I like about Fowler a little bit more. One is that he's so physically dominating that when he hits the QB, the QB is engulfed and goes down. Beasley has to work a bit at taking the QB down. Two is that at his Pro Day, Fowler actually posted a better 10-yard split than what Beasley posted at the combine. This doesn't mean he's more athletic as Beasley ran away with the better numbers at every other drill, but the 10-yard split is probably the single most important stat, and it appears that Fowler's first step is just as quick which is impressive as heck given their size difference.


 

Force me to choose and I'm taking Vic, but I certainly won't cry if they choose Fowler instead.

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 the 10-yard split is probably the single most important stat

Every year we are learning that it's more and more clear the order goes like this: 3 cone > broad jump > vertical jump > 10 yard >>> bench > 40 yard/shuttles

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Every year we are learning that it's more and more clear the order goes like this: 3 cone > broad jump > vertical jump > 10 yard >>> bench > 40 yard/shuttles

 

Isn't a smaller player going to have a big advantage in all the agility and speed drills? 

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Isn't a smaller player going to have a big advantage in all the agility and speed drills?

When you're comparing two prospects of the same position you're not often going to have a huge disparity in height and weight. In terms of Fowler and Beasley, there isn't enough difference in size to give one a big advantage over the other.

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When you're comparing two prospects of the same position you're not often going to have a huge disparity in height and weight. In terms of Fowler and Beasley, there isn't enough difference in size to give one a big advantage over the other.

20 lbs isn't that big of a difference to you?

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Crab Cakes and Football! That's what Jacksonville does!

20 lbs isn't that big of a difference to you?

In terms of these athletes? No. Vic is a better athlete and the tape/combine show it. It's not really discrediting Fowler, Beasley is a better athlete than most of the edge guys.


Plus if my memory serves me right the difference between the two is 15 pounds. Not 20.

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