I said into his his 30s.

 

Tony Dorsett

Age 30: 1,648 total yards in 16 games.

Age 31: 1,756 total yards in 16 games.

Age 32: 1,011 total yards in 13 games.

 

Why can't Peterson follow a similar trajectory?

Dorsett started sharing carries with Herschel Walker in the 86 season....the year in which he was 32 years old.  So his numbers dropped, or as one poster stated "fell off a cliff".  That was the reason.

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He missed all of last year so you can call him 29 and he is by far still the best running back in the league.  yeah I'm crazy hugh

Missing a year at this point in his career doesn't magically make him fresher for the long haul.  It actually makes him more susceptible to injury.   Keep trying.  He can't back the clock up any more than you or I can.  He's still 30. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Dorsett started sharing carries with Herschel Walker in the 86 season....the year in which he was 32 years old.  So his numbers dropped, or as one poster stated "fell off a cliff".  That was the reason.

 

If you consider 1,000+ yards in 13 games "falling off a cliff", then this conversation is pointless. I considered Tony Dorsett productive into his 30s and think Peterson can be, too. 

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Why would you want someone on the decline with a bloated contract in a year when the draft is offering us plenty of talent that could be productive for more than a year or two at a fraction of the cost without costing this team a single draft pick.

 

You say you don't support trading for him unless it's a 4th or lower.  Minnesota isn't going to trade him anywhere unless there's a premium offer they simply can't refuse.  A 4th round pick or later doesn't qualify.  They're not shopping him.  There's no reason to do so.  If someone comes to them with a ridiculous offer like a 1 or 2, I'm sure they'll consider it.  A 4th?  Not a chance. 

 

I don't care what Peterson's trajectory is in comparison to other running backs.  I care about what he offers this team over the long haul, and I'm not inspired to think he's worth what Minnesota is going to expect in compensation.

 


"Report: Minnesota sets terms for Peterson in trade"
"ESPN's Adam Caplan reports the Vikings are looking for a first-round draft pick and "more compensation," likely a starting cornerback, in exchange for Adrian Peterson."  http://jax.247sports.com/Bolt/Minnesota-...n-36851985

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"Report: Minnesota sets terms for Peterson in trade"

"ESPN's Adam Caplan reports the Vikings are looking for a first-round draft pick and "more compensation," likely a starting cornerback, in exchange for Adrian Peterson." <a class="bbc_url" href='http://jax.247sports.com/Bolt/Minnesota-wants-first-rounder-cornerback-for-Peterson-36851985'>http://jax.247sports.com/Bolt/Minnesota-wants-first-rounder-cornerback-for-Peterson-36851985</a>

MEGA PASS!!!

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If you consider 1,000+ yards in 13 games "falling off a cliff", then this conversation is pointless. I considered Tony Dorsett productive into his 30s and think Peterson can be, too. 

I never said Dorsett fell off a cliff.  I was explaining why his numbers dipped....someone else suggested it was him falling.  I stated it was becase he shared the load with Walker.   :thumbsup:

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Feel free to point out where I said he's "on the decline."


I'm speaking from an historical perspective about running backs and their general effectiveness once they hit 30. It's not really that difficult to understand.


You'd easily trade a 2nd round pick for him because your job isn't on the line for making such an idiotic move. Easy to tell us what you'd do from the security of your anonymous keyboard. The article Bullseye posted outlines why it's a stupid move.

The job at this point as been very mediocre.  What did we get out of a second round pick his first year?  Cyprien a very mediocre safety. What am I thinking right

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I never said Dorsett fell off a cliff.  I was explaining why his numbers dipped....someone else suggested it was him falling.  I stated it was becase he shared the load with Walker.   :thumbsup:

 

I never once said that RBs shouldn't be expected to regress. My point was always that, even if Peterson regresses, he should still be productive for a couple years and not fall off a cliff.

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"Report: Minnesota sets terms for Peterson in trade"

"ESPN's Adam Caplan reports the Vikings are looking for a first-round draft pick and "more compensation," likely a starting cornerback, in exchange for Adrian Peterson." <a class="bbc_url" href='http://jax.247sports.com/Bolt/Minnesota-wants-first-rounder-cornerback-for-Peterson-36851985'>http://jax.247sports.com/Bolt/Minnesota-wants-first-rounder-cornerback-for-Peterson-36851985</a>

I don't see any team willing to do that. Especially with how deep this years RB class is.


Vikings have the upper hand and it's clear, play for us or sit.

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Crab Cakes and Football! That's what Jacksonville does!

I don't see any team willing to do that. Especially with how deep this years RB class is.


Vikings have the upper hand and it's clear, play for us or sit.

thats what I am gathering too...It looks like they are saying if you want out some team will have to pay out the rear so it will be good for us, and if they don't we still got ya so it will be good for us...either way the team wins

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APs father did mention before he would like to start over and for a contender. Jags don't quite fit that catagory yet , and the Vikings trade wish is far to much . the oldest player the jags will go for in free agency is 27 yrs old otherwise it will be the draft . This draft will be very interesting, can't wait.

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Poz has a lot shorter distance to fall off than Peterson, and he plays at a position where players can still be effective beyond the age of 30.  Peterson does not.  Everyone knows the general expectation for a running back's career. 

 

Poz is also labeled as overpaid at his previous $7.5 million salary, but people are fine with paying Peterson twice that. 

 

Great points.

 

One met with gnashing teeth, and the other with drool.  But there could be more than one reason for that.

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"You do your own thing in your own time. You should be proud."

I never once said that RBs shouldn't be expected to regress. My point was always that, even if Peterson regresses, he should still be productive for a couple years and not fall off a cliff.

Not sure where you are coming from but I never said you were the one who stated Dorsett fell off a cliff.  I was ref. to what Rico had said.  

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Offer them Gratz and the #36. I feel that AP is among the top five RBs in league history, but I'm not offering anything more than this.

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'02

I said into his his 30s.


Tony Dorsett

Age 30: 1,648 total yards in 16 games.

Age 31: 1,756 total yards in 16 games.

Age 32: 1,011 total yards in 13 games.


Why can't Peterson follow a similar trajectory?

He could. He may not. I think the point is risk/reward. That is a lot of money to pay someone when history, the odds overall, point to the risk out waying the reward.

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"Report: Minnesota sets terms for Peterson in trade"

"ESPN's Adam Caplan reports the Vikings are looking for a first-round draft pick and "more compensation," likely a starting cornerback, in exchange for Adrian Peterson." <a class="bbc_url" href='http://jax.247sports.com/Bolt/Minnesota-wants-first-rounder-cornerback-for-Peterson-36851985'>http://jax.247sports.com/Bolt/Minnesota-wants-first-rounder-cornerback-for-Peterson-36851985</a>

Lol.

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"Report: Minnesota sets terms for Peterson in trade"

"ESPN's Adam Caplan reports the Vikings are looking for a first-round draft pick and "more compensation," likely a starting cornerback, in exchange for Adrian Peterson."  <a class="bbc_url" href='http://jax.247sports.com/Bolt/Minnesota-wants-first-rounder-cornerback-for-Peterson-36851985'>http://jax.247sports.com/Bolt/Minnesota-wants-first-rounder-cornerback-for-Peterson-36851985</a>

They are just making it impossible for him to see a trade and so he stays. There's no way anyone would give this up for him and his contract (ok,ok maybe Dallas and jerrys great ownership.....). He's going to have to be willing to miss out on bonuses and 12 mil to possibly see a real trade...


GO JAGS!!

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Let's Get Em!!!! Go Jags!

The job at this point as been very mediocre.  What did we get out of a second round pick his first year?  Cyprien a very mediocre safety. What am I thinking right

Mediocrity is something I'm sure you're quite the expert at. 

 

If Cyprien is your great case, you're already proving my point.

 

"Report: Minnesota sets terms for Peterson in trade"

"ESPN's Adam Caplan reports the Vikings are looking for a first-round draft pick and "more compensation," likely a starting cornerback, in exchange for Adrian Peterson."  http://jax.247sports.com/Bolt/Minnesota-...n-36851985

 

 

That kind of expectation is laughable, except if you're a wannabe GM like the "genius" mvp.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

I don't see any team willing to do that. Especially with how deep this years RB class is.

Vikings have the upper hand and it's clear, play for us or sit.

 

I'm pretty sure several people have made that same point in this thread.  They're under zero pressure to trade Peterson, so they can set the bar as high as they want.  If someone wants to pay it, great.  If not, he's got 2 options.  Play or sit. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Rumors are circling:

The source said if the Vikings want to trade Peterson, they never will have more leverage than during the April 30-May 2 draft. The source said Minnesota could be able to entice a team once Melvin Gordon and Todd Gurley, the two top backs in the draft, are off the board.


The source named six teams in the mix for Peterson: Arizona, Atlanta, Dallas, Jacksonville, San Diego and Tampa Bay. The source does not believe Oakland, mentioned in media reports as a possible candidate, is in the mix.

<a class="bbc_url" href='http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_27951734/vikings-now-or-never-adrian-peterson-trade-source'>http://www.twincities.com/sports/ci_27951734/vikings-now-or-never-adrian-peterson-trade-source</a>

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