JDR can finally extract his revenge on Manning after all these years.

 

Queue those classic Del Rio coach speak pressers.

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I guess that explains that one loss?  Just kidding.

I hope he takes them far to set up his stage of coming back to Jacksonville as the HC again.

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I guess that explains that one loss?  Just kidding.

I hope he takes them far to set up his stage of coming back to Jacksonville as the HC again.

 

I respect JDR as a person and as a coach.    Yet,   I'm having difficulty believing that a '  Bring Back Jack'  campaign will take place in Duval County.    :no:

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I respect JDR as a person and as a coach.    Yet,   I'm having difficulty believing that a '  Bring Back Jack'  campaign will take place in Duval County.    :no:

 

I don't know Jack as a person so I won't comment there, but as a head football coach I do not have much respect for him at all. What has he accomplished to earn it??

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JDR will be fine as long as Manning is healthy.

 

JDR's issue had more to do with available talent then it did with coaching ability imo.

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JDR will be fine as long as Manning is healthy.

 

JDR's issue had more to do with available talent then it did with coaching ability IMO.

 

Even with an injured Manning he will be fine. Peyton played on a bad ankle against the Redskins.

 

That said, his coaching ability also was a problem in Jacksonville because no matter who he hired to run the offense, we were ultra-conservative, like he had a paw in how our OC called the plays.

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That said, his coaching ability also was a problem in Jacksonville because no matter who he hired to run the offense, we were ultra-conservative, like he had a paw in how our OC called the plays.

Personally, I don't agree with that. I mean, the best offensive talent that he had (other than Jimmy Smith for a brief time) was very heavy run oriented: Taylor, MJD, Garrard.

I recall Del Rio going for it on 4th downs quite a lot. Maybe I'm wrong, but I remember it that way. He went for those 4th down plays frequently. So, that's pretty aggressive, I think.

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I don't know Jack as a person so I won't comment there, but as a head football coach I do not have much respect for him at all. What has he accomplished to earn it??

 

1    ) Two playoff berths and a road playoff win in Pittsburgh.       If not for a dropped potential TD pass by Dennis Northcutt,   the Jaguars would have probably been on the verge of pulling off a huge upset over the then 16-0 Patriots all they could handle in the 2nd round of the 2007 playoffs.

 

2 )   Two wins in Pittsburgh in the same season at a time the Steelers were one of the best teams in the NFL on a consistent basis.

 

3)     Was the HC of some of the better Defenses in the NFL,  despite not having a great pass rusher off the edge the vast majority of the time.       Under JDR,   the Jaguars were a very physical Defensive unit.      Even when the Jaguars lost,   the opposition often felt the affects of the game when they played the following week.

 

4 )   Was the HC during a time frame in which several Jaguars Defenders developed into high caliber players:    John Henderson,   Rashean Mathis,  and Daryl Smith come to mind.

 

5 )   Was the HC of Offensive Units that had strong running games most of the time.       The RB's and blockers enabled the Jaguars to have amongst the longest drives in the NFL.     A game that you might have attended comes to mind.    Back in 2006,   on a windy day in Philadelphia,   the Jaguars beat the Eagles something like 16-6.     The Jaguars physical play on both sides of the ball stood out that day.      That was the case when the Jaguars beat the Steelers in the snow the following season.

 

6 )   The Jaguars gave the Colts all they could handle in many games,   with the Jaguars seemingly having as much success as any team did against the Colts.

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Personally, I don't agree with that. I mean, the best offensive talent that he had (other than Jimmy Smith for a brief time) was very heavy run oriented: Taylor, MJD, Garrard.

I recall Del Rio going for it on 4th downs quite a lot. Maybe I'm wrong, but I remember it that way. He went for those 4th down plays frequently. So, that's pretty aggressive, I think.

 

Excellent comments.

 

JDR played to his team's strengths.

 

 For the Jaguars,  it was very unfortunate that Byron Leftwich couldn't stay relatively healthy often enough and the team was unable to find the type of WR that could have eventually replaced Jimmy Smith as a true # 1 WR.     The Jaguars had some good possession WR's that were excellent blockers.    Ernest Wilford and Reggie Williams come to mind.    But they didn't have the type of WR that could truly consistently stretch opposing Defenses vertically,    once Jimmy Smith was no longer an elite WR.

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1    ) Two playoff berths and a road playoff win in Pittsburgh.       If not for a dropped potential TD pass by Dennis Northcutt,   the Jaguars would have probably been on the verge of pulling off a huge upset over the then 16-0 Patriots all they could handle in the 2nd round of the 2007 playoffs.

 

2 )   Two wins in Pittsburgh in the same season at a time the Steelers were one of the best teams in the NFL on a consistent basis.

 

3)     Was the HC of some of the better Defenses in the NFL,  despite not having a great pass rusher off the edge the vast majority of the time.       Under JDR,   the Jaguars were a very physical Defensive unit.      Even when the Jaguars lost,   the opposition often felt the affects of the game when they played the following week.

 

4 )   Was the HC during a time frame in which several Jaguars Defenders developed into high caliber players:    John Henderson,   Rashean Mathis,  and Daryl Smith come to mind.

 

5 )   Was the HC of Offensive Units that had strong running games most of the time.       The RB's and blockers enabled the Jaguars to have amongst the longest drives in the NFL.     A game that you might have attended comes to mind.    Back in 2006,   on a windy day in Philadelphia,   the Jaguars beat the Eagles something like 16-6.     The Jaguars physical play on both sides of the ball stood out that day.      That was the case when the Jaguars beat the Steelers in the snow the following season.

 

6 )   The Jaguars gave the Colts all they could handle in many games,   with the Jaguars seemingly having as much success as any team did against the Colts.

I would rather have Jack back than the mess we have now. If JDR would have had talent he could have been a great coach here. 

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I don't know Jack as a person so I won't comment there, but as a head football coach I do not have much respect for him at all. What has he accomplished to earn it??

How about taking Shack Harris and Gene Smith built teams and making them look halfway decent? I think he was a better head coach than he was given credit for.

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Personally, I don't agree with that. I mean, the best offensive talent that he had (other than Jimmy Smith for a brief time) was very heavy run oriented: Taylor, MJD, Garrard.

I recall Del Rio going for it on 4th downs quite a lot. Maybe I'm wrong, but I remember it that way. He went for those 4th down plays frequently. So, that's pretty aggressive, I think.

 

It seemed like every time he hired a new OC, that guy planned to open up the passing game more. That never happened.

 

You are correct. JDR called more "go for it" plays than any other NFL coach at least one season.

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It seemed like every time he hired a new OC, that guy planned to open up the passing game more. That never happened.


You are correct. JDR called more "go for it" plays than any other NFL coach at least one season.

How do you open up a passing game with Garrard throwing the ball to the like of Reggie Williams, Dennis Northcutt, Mike Walker etc.? Rhetorical question, you dont

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How about taking Shack Harris and Gene Smith built teams and making them look halfway decent? I think he was a better head coach than he was given credit for.

 

Explain why David Garrard had only one great season (2007) and the relationship problem with Byron Leftwich. Sometimes criticism is warranted.

 

That said, I have to say JDR was obviously a much better coach than Mike Mularkey.

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How do you open up a passing game with Garrard throwing the ball to the like of Reggie Williams, Dennis Northcutt, Mike Walker etc.? Rhetorical question, you dont

 

I still remember that game versus NYJ in New York when it was reported that D. Koetter essentially told David Garrard to "throw the ball to Walker. No matter what."

 

What's a coach to do with a Quarterback like that?

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

According to his press conference he'll run the team as he sees fit. Recoveeing from heart surgery could take the entire second half of the season...


NH3...

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I still remember that game versus NYJ in New York when it was reported that D. Koetter essentially told David Garrard to "throw the ball to Walker. No matter what."

 

What's a coach to do with a quarterback like that?

 

Are you sure about that?

 

The stupidest think Dirk Koetter told David Garrard to do was spike the ball on third down when they had a timeout left. The field goal attempt was only 18 yards.

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1    ) Two playoff berths and a road playoff win in Pittsburgh.       If not for a dropped potential TD pass by Dennis Northcutt,   the Jaguars would have probably been on the verge of pulling off a huge upset over the then 16-0 Patriots all they could handle in the 2nd round of the 2007 playoffs.

 

2 )   Two wins in Pittsburgh in the same season at a time the Steelers were one of the best teams in the NFL on a consistent basis.

 

3)     Was the HC of some of the better Defenses in the NFL,  despite not having a great pass rusher off the edge the vast majority of the time.       Under JDR,   the Jaguars were a very physical Defensive unit.      Even when the Jaguars lost,   the opposition often felt the affects of the game when they played the following week.

 

4 )   Was the HC during a time frame in which several Jaguars Defenders developed into high caliber players:    John Henderson,   Rashean Mathis,  and Daryl Smith come to mind.

 

5 )   Was the HC of Offensive Units that had strong running games most of the time.       The RB's and blockers enabled the Jaguars to have amongst the longest drives in the NFL.     A game that you might have attended comes to mind.    Back in 2006,   on a windy day in Philadelphia,   the Jaguars beat the Eagles something like 16-6.     The Jaguars physical play on both sides of the ball stood out that day.      That was the case when the Jaguars beat the Steelers in the snow the following season.

 

6 )   The Jaguars gave the Colts all they could handle in many games,   with the Jaguars seemingly having as much success as any team did against the Colts.

 

1. 2 playoff berths in 9 seasons as head coach. 1-2 record in those games. Thats unimpressive. As for your Patriots comment...the Patriots were involved in "almost losses" for at least 3 consecutive games preceding the ultimate Super Bowl loss to the Giants. Perspective. 

 

2. Yeah, that was nice, credit where due I guess, but the Jags had their number during that time. Some teams match up better vs others and I suspect that was the case with Jax vs Pitt at & around that time. 

 

3. That sounds like merit of talent, not coaching to me. That defense had really good players on it, and did in fact have a good pass rusher during that defenses peak, i.e. Reggie Hayward. He was no slouch. Henderson, Stroud, Peterson, Daryl Smith, Darius, Mathis, even Deon Grant and Brian Williams were at least "decent" players. I could probably actually make an argument that that defense UNDER-achieved while Del Rio was head coach here. He ran a very basic 4-3 and rarely if ever got creative with the personnel to try and force turnovers/ pressure/ exotic blitz schemes, etc etc. IMO, this hurt the Jags and would expose them vs the tougher opponents and in the playoffs. The Jags were easy for opponents to coach against because they were so basic/ simple. 

 

4. I'll give him credit for developing Mathis & Daryl Smith, but thats about it. Players like Darius, Hayward, Henderson, Stroud, Peterson, et al, were already past "development" stage by the time he got there. 

 

5. I guess so when you inherit one of the best RB in the sport. Then also drafted another great one to compliment the existing stud. 

 

I was at that game :yes: 13-6 Jags win, baby! Winds were gusting to 50 mph or more. That was one of the windiest days I ever remember. Walking to the stadium from the parking lot was difficult it was so windy. There was no way either team was going to have success passing the ball that day....and that obviously hurt the Eagles more so than the Jags, as Philly was pass happy under Reid by that stage. 

 

6. See comment above about Steelers....and to be honest....the Jags played the Colts tough a lot in that era - but still lost most of the games, anyway....so not sure how one earns credit for simply posting moral victories... :blink:

 

I would rather have Jack back than the mess we have now. If JDR would have had talent he could have been a great coach here. 

 

Sigh....he had better talent than you are remembering, especially defensively. He also had Jimmy, Fred, MoJo and Kyle Brady during some of their better years, as well as Meester, Naeole, and that other Guard (who's name escapes me) that was also pretty good during that time frame....

 

Just because things suck right now doesn't mean Jack was really a good head football coach. 

 

How about taking Shack Harris and Gene Smith built teams and making them look halfway decent? I think he was a better head coach than he was given credit for.

 

See comments above. He was not a better head coach than given credit for. 

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Hopefully he keeps them chopping wood

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I dont mind Del Rio, considering the talent he worked with while he was head coach I think he did pretty well.

 

He wouldnt be my number one choice, but on an interim basis he's a good go to guy.

 

For those of you that think he strapped the offensive coordinator, he doesnt have to worry about that in Denver.  Peyton will do what he wants.

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