I did not see the merit to the was it was posed.

 

 

You say were ... Do you feel that way now? does the color of a mans skin make any difference to you in the least? I'm glad I was not a part of that team of "Were".

 

What? Sammy, you've never played dumb on this board. A little goofy maybe ...

 

I can't think of a multi-racial society that didn't "rank' people by skin color. A caste system. Which then had implications toward income strata and all kinds of societal issues.

 

The color of skin doesn't matter. All the images we've assigned to various skin colors is the issue we have to deal with.

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The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.

So is the term Redskin exclusive to American Indians? I'm no linguist so it's an honest question. Obviously I'm not advocating changing the names of the Yankees, Patriots or Cowboys.

 

As to the point about Patriots it's obviously a referral to the American Patriots the mascot downright to the logo are from the revolutionary war.

 

You joke but there is actually a movement now to change the name of the Boston baseball team. Apparently, some are offended by it.

 

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The color of skin doesn't matter. All the images we've assigned to various skin colors is the issue we have to deal with.

 

I am sure someone else has assigned images, and I would say I don't know them personally. I don't know exactly what you are getting at, do you think renaming the Redskins will fix some form of racism?

 

I do agree, skin color dose not matter, and never should under any circumstances. ... Unless we are talking about a donor for a health procedure where it is best to be of the same ethnicity, or something similar.

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You joke but there is actually a movement now to change the name of the Boston baseball team. Apparently, some are offended by it.

 

 

I know that guy, we go drinking together all the time.

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I am sure someone else has assigned images, and I would say I don't know them personally. I don't know exactly what you are getting at, do you think renaming the Redskins will fix some form of racism?

 

I do agree, skin color dose not matter, and never should under any circumstances. ... Unless we are talking about a donor for a health procedure where it is best to be of the same ethnicity, or something similar.

 

honest question sammy, I'm not a health guy, what is this about donor for health procedure and same ethnicity? I know you obviously have to have the right blood type but is there a problem with using livers and stuff from other ethnicity's?

 

I've just never heard of this before?

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If something is wrong poll numbers shouldn't matter. A majority of people living in the British colonies in 1776 didn't want to leave the rule of Great Britain either.

 

That's what they said about the civil rights movement - it's just a vocal minority (and communist lead!)

 

It's a derogatory description of a group of people, a recognition of a caste system as determined by skin color. We know that whites were considered superior. It's always been a question of if George Marshall considered blacks to be below American Indians or the reverse.

The polls were asked only of Native Americans, no one else.

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honest question sammy, I'm not a health guy, what is this about donor for health procedure and same ethnicity? I know you obviously have to have the right blood type but is there a problem with using livers and stuff from other ethnicity's?
 
I've just never heard of this before?

I think Sammy means that different races have different genetic make up, which means different medical issues specific that that race. Like sickle cell anemia and blacks.

Sammy, am I correct?

And Sammy, of course changing the Redskins' name doesn't "fix" racism (racism will never be fixed), but one small step ...

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The sun's not yellow, it's chicken.

The polls were asked only of Native Americans, no one else.

So?

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honest question sammy, I'm not a health guy, what is this about donor for health procedure and same ethnicity? I know you obviously have to have the right blood type but is there a problem with using livers and stuff from other ethnicity's?

 

I've just never heard of this before?

 

I guess that is a reasonable question. I have always been under the assumption that the more alike the donor is to the recipient, the better the odds are for the body to accept the transplanted organ.
 
My License says I am a donor, so there is going to be some drunk guy out there that isn't going to appreciate the mileage on his new liver.   that isn't going to come close to how ticked the guy that gets my brain is going to be. ... Do you think I could request they put my brain in a females body?

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Sammy, am I correct?

 

 

I slept at a Red Roof in last night.

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So?

So if the name doesn't offend the vast majority of the Native Americans why is this drum being beat? I wish the old board were still up but it was upwards of 85% who wanted the name to not be changed.

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There should be no box at all, does the form clearly state the "Not to answer if you wish not to"? I can't say I like any part of that idea ... Can you send me a couple examples? Maybe someone isn't doing the job they should be doing.

 

I didn't read the article, but there would be many examples of unfair hiring practices, to which I myself would fit into a victimized area of discrimination, and unfair employment practices category. I could probably disguise myself, or possibly more accurately misrepresent myself in order to get around these practices as well. As a whole this country does need to do a much better job, and there are clear signs we are moving in the right direction. Very much slower than we should all desire.

 

Clearly we are getting away from the Redskins name, to which is not my intentions. I will probably always consider it a name of Honor.

 

A basic job search on a fortune 500 company website under the employment section where the application is will have that section for you to select which race you are.

 

Back on topic, IMO people have a right to be offended or not offended. If the Native Indians want the name change pressure those who directly fund the licensing and trademark of the Redskins to stop and see what happens.

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Whether someone has a liberal, or conservative viewpoint, a authoritative figure should not lock a thread for the sole purpose to get the last word in all the while prohibiting someone else from being able to respond.

What if's can't be debated.

 

What if is the one silver bullet in any debate. What if WW3 started tomorrow with a full out nuclear war, would any of us really give a hoot about the name Redskins?

 

This one can because the comparison is legitimate. They are one in the same. An extremely derogatory word based on the color of a person's skin and/or race. 

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This one can because the comparison is legitimate. They are one in the same. An extremely derogatory word based on the color of a person's skin and/or race. 

 

Of course this "what if" is legitimate, and all of the other "what ifs" are not.  What if ads an element that doesn't exist, or else you wouldn't need a what if. What if I bought you a round tuit from ebay? Have you thought about that? :pinch:

 

Can you see this in our court system now? to which there will be appeal after appeal until the Supreme Court makes a final ruling. There will be witnesses claiming that the Redskins name is offensive, and the other side claiming that changing the name adversely affects them monetarily, and emotionally. The tax payers will foot the bill for the court cost, with nothing coming from the casinos. :woot:

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A basic job search on a fortune 500 company website under the employment section where the application is will have that section for you to select which race you are.

 

 

Okay, I will check that when I get home ... I thought you were going to be able to pop one to me fairly quick, it isn't something would have thought existed. If I were handed an application with a race box on it, I would throw a hissy ... bigger than the hissy I usually throw. :yes:

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My License says I am a donor, so there is going to be some drunk guy out there that isn't going to appreciate the mileage on his new liver.   that isn't going to come close to how ticked the guy that gets my brain is going to be. ... Do you think I could request they put my brain in a females body?
 

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You might be surprised just how similar we all are underneath the skin. 

 

Organ transplant matches cross racial lines a lot easier than most of us can.  Certain blood types are more common among certain races, true, but there are only 8 of them.

 

You would be shocked to find out just who will get your brain when you pass.

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Of course this "what if" is legitimate, and all of the other "what ifs" are not.  What if ads an element that doesn't exist, or else you wouldn't need a what if. What if I bought you a round tuit from ebay? Have you thought about that? :pinch:

 

<div>Can you see this in our court system now? to which there will be appeal after appeal until the Supreme Court makes a final ruling. There will be witnesses claiming that the Redskins name is offensive, and the other side claiming that changing the name adversely affects them monetarily, and emotionally. The tax payers will foot the bill for the court cost, with nothing coming from the casinos. :woot:
 

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You're trying to label my argument as a logical fallacy by using non sequiturs. This is a really simple issue to which, for some reason, you're not understanding. Yes...to you the name Redskins doesn't mean anything derogatory, but the FACT of the matter is that the world...by definition...is a derogatory word toward Native Americans. That is a fact. 

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I honestly thought the only variation in a body part was the blood type, first I've heard of anything else playing a factor. Again I'm not a medical guy so I'm probably showing some ignorance here, that's ok.

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You're trying to label my argument as a logical fallacy by using non sequiturs. This is a really simple issue to which, for some reason, you're not understanding. Yes...to you the name Redskins doesn't mean anything derogatory, but the FACT of the matter is that the world...by definition...is a derogatory word toward Native Americans. That is a fact. 

 

I don't think it is the whole world. (yeah, I know it was a typo)

 

The FACT that I and millions of others DO NOT consider the name Redskins is anything but honorable is what you are trying to tell me isn't true. I don't care how many "What ifs" you use.

 

What if that were true? What if you can't believe that? What if maybe you are wrong? What if I don't look at the world through your eyes? What if I am an American Indian? I don't know what else to say about What if, because what ifs are never the end of what ifs.

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#1 - You might be surprised just how similar we all are underneath the skin. 

 

 

#2 - You would be shocked to find out just who will get your brain when you pass.

 

#1, I don't doubt that at all, and wouldn't it be better if all our skin was transparent? That way we could see who is ugly on the inside.

 

#2 - They are going to be disappointed none the less. :yes: I have been in a lot of University labs, and the classes where students work on cadavers that were donated to science. People think some Scientist is going to use their body for Science, when they are more than likely sent to universities for practice, and learning slabs of flesh. I remember the first time was very freaky, then after so long they (the bodies) are just items, and not people.

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