Extra point plays currently do not affect the game clock for time remaining. The only thing that runs during that time wise is the play clock and obviously time itself.

That's not what he was saying. He meant that instead of kicking it and risking a block, or fumblimg/throwing an int and the defense returning it for the win.

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Why not just run a two-point conversion? I don't see the risk. No more so than taking a knee and then kicking off.

Because there is always the risk of a fumble that could be returned for two points, even on a simple FB dive or QB sneak.

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Because there is always the risk of a fumble that could be returned for two points, even on a simple FB dive or QB sneak.

Minimal. A touchdown being scored in those two scenarios is no more likely than the ensuing kickoff being returned.

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Minimal. A touchdown being scored in those two scenarios is no more likely than the ensuing kickoff being returned.

But the kick off will happen anyways, so instead of giving them 2 opportunities to make a special play, you're giving them 1. So you're halving the risk.

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I think that it's going to be like Pop Warner football; you line up on the 15, you're kicking. You line up on the two, you're going for it. No trickery allowed.

This is the NFL. I doubt they will throw in a no trickery clause.

 

If a team chooses to go for 2 points from 15  yards away rather than two, then more power to them. The odds definitely aren't shifting in their favor The kick block unit will have to watch out for a fake like they always have had to do.

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This is the NFL. I doubt they will throw in a no trickery clause.

 

If a team chooses to go for 2 points from 15  yards away rather than two, then more power to them. The odds definitely aren't shifting in their favor The kick block unit will have to watch out for a fake like they always have had to do.

 

Good point. I think it'll just be understood amongst the teams that going for two is going to be awfully difficult to do, so you might as well kick.

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Good point. I think it'll just be understood amongst the teams that going for two is going to be awfully difficult to do, so you might as well kick.

This. I still think the two-point conversion will be an uncommon choice because it's staying far enough back that there won't be a significant advantage to doing so. I've read speculation that had the league moved the two-point conversion to the one yard line, going for two might have become the default option for most teams, figuring they could get it from that distance at least 50% of the time easily. Maybe the league didn't want to see that happen for some reason? Injury risk? Fear of altering the game too dramatically? Or maybe there will be another change to PATs next year, moving the two-point attempt to the one?

 

I'd guess that some team out there will go for two from the 15 on a trick play early-ish in the season and suffer an epic fail, and that'll be the end of that.

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If the NFL makes it so there's a better than 50% of making the 2-point conversion, why would anybody kick?  I bet that was the risk if the 2-point conversion was moved to the 1.  A simple off-tackle dive probably has a better than 50% chance of gaining a yard. 

 

Instead, what they've done is put a bit more strategy into the scoring.  Before, score 100 TDs and you'll make 99 or 100 of the PATs.  Now that number might be more like 94 or 95 with the PAT at the 15.  So, that means even a 47% success rate on the 2-pointer would match what your kicker could give you. 

 

Looked at another way, the most points you can get after 100 TDs, attempting the PAT every time, is 100.  That's the best you can do even if you are perfect.  But there's the potential for 200 points if you try the 2-point conversion every time.  To score more points than a perfect kicker, you would only need to convert 51% of your 2-point conversions. 

 

What if you could convert 60%, 70%, or more of your 2-point conversion attempts?  Would that be worth signing a specialty player?  Do you think Brady to Gronk could gain 2 yards 60% of the time?  Think of the demoralizing effect it could have on a team whose coach will only try PATs, to go against a team that likes to hang 8-point TDs on the scoreboard.

 

So we might see teams experiment with a 275-lb fullback or a 6'10" TE.  There may be a place again for the bruising back who gets reliable yardage after contact but can't break the long one.  We may see more gimmick plays, naked bootleg, flea-flicker, jump pass, shovel pass, etc. 

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