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Eric1 · 06-17-2015, 04:06 AM

Quote:Ok, compared to every other leo on our roster and just about every other leo in the league who are all pretty much 260+ he is a lightweight.

He weighs less than our otto LB. It doesn't matter what you want to call the position, he is still going to weigh less than 99% of the people who play at the line of scrimmage.

Relative to where he plays he is a lightweight which goes along with the original point, which the other poster tried to contradict, that there won't be a lot of beef on the weak side with Clemmons and Smith both being undersized players.

There's only a handful of teams that use a LEO on the DL. Whether you want to call it the Buck, the Jack, the Elephant, or the LEO, there isn't much of a difference besides where they line up. Some are bigger, some are smaller, but the key traits of the position is speed and length. Leverage can quickly take size and strength out of the equation.

You're acting like they're asking our LEOs to play inside at NT or something. There's a reason why our LEO lines up so wide in our base. Good speed, leverage and length will make up for a 50-60lbs weight advantage real quick. The whole point is to get our more gifted athletes in some space, 1 on 1 and let them work.

I'd hope our OTTO was bigger than our LEO, considering our OTTO's first job is to set the edge in the run game. The OTTO can and will line up on either side of the formation. The OTTO will be on, or very close to the LOS.

Telvin and Clem will not be both lining up on the weak side every single snap.

imtheblkranger · 06-17-2015, 07:09 AM

Also, Clem has been in the league how long now? I'm pretty sure he knows more about what his optimal playing weight should be than you do... It's not like he's a rookie used to tossing around 19 year olds.

IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS

Predator · 06-17-2015, 10:08 AM

Quote:There's only a handful of teams that use a LEO on the DL. Whether you want to call it the Buck, the Jack, the Elephant, or the LEO, there isn't much of a difference besides where they line up. Some are bigger, some are smaller, but the key traits of the position is speed and length. Leverage can quickly take size and strength out of the equation.

You're acting like they're asking our LEOs to play inside at NT or something. There's a reason why our LEO lines up so wide in our base. Good speed, leverage and length will make up for a 50-60lbs weight advantage real quick. The whole point is to get our more gifted athletes in some space, 1 on 1 and let them work.

I'd hope our OTTO was bigger than our LEO, considering our OTTO's first job is to set the edge in the run game. The OTTO can and will line up on either side of the formation. The OTTO will be on, or very close to the LOS.

Telvin and Clem will not be both lining up on the weak side every single snap.

No I am saying 248 lbs even for a leo is lightweight in this league.

I don't know why this concept blows your mind.

The Real Marty · 06-17-2015, 10:24 AM

Quote:No I am saying 248 lbs even for a leo is lightweight in this league.

I don't know why this concept blows your mind.

So many people wanted us to draft Vic Beasley to play the Leo, when he had to beef up to get to 245.

knarnn · 06-17-2015, 11:07 AM

Quote:So many people wanted us to draft Vic Beasley to play the Leo, when he had to beef up to get to 245.

And Shane Ray, Randy Gregory, and Dee Ford last year.

"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

**NYC4jags** · 06-17-2015, 12:43 PM

Allen Robinson on live with Oehser/Shadrick now:

http://www.jaguars.com/live/

**NYC4jags** · 06-17-2015, 12:55 PM

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/APMarkLong'>Mark Long ‏@APMarkLong </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/APMarkLong/status/611214774689529858' title="12:52 PM - 17 Jun 2015">2m</a>

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/APMarkLong/status/611214774689529858' title="12:52 PM - 17 Jun 2015">2 minutes ago</a>
Jaguars announce G A.J Cann, a 3rd-round pick, has signed his rookie deal

**NYC4jags** · 06-17-2015, 12:58 PM

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/ryanohalloran'>Ryan O'Halloran ‏@ryanohalloran </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/ryanohalloran/status/611213178874150912' title="12:45 PM - 17 Jun 2015">11m11 minutes ago</a>

4. Gus said Sergio Brown, Neal Sterling and Damian Copeland all sat out after tweaking hamstrings Tuesday. <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash'>#Jaguars</a>





<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/ryanohalloran'>Ryan O'Halloran ‏@ryanohalloran </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/ryanohalloran/status/611212984858226689' title="12:45 PM - 17 Jun 2015">12m</a>

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/ryanohalloran/status/611212984858226689' title="12:45 PM - 17 Jun 2015">12 minutes ago</a>
3. Bortles said he'll be in town all of July except for a week. Will again do throwing sessions at local high school. <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash'>#Jaguars</a>





QB <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/BBortles5'>@BBortles5</a> on <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/Thee_AR15'>@Thee_AR15</a>: "He's been unbelievable. ... He's definitely a threat now in the red zone."





<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/Jaguars'>Jacksonville Jaguars ‏@Jaguars </a> <a class="" href='https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/611200400134381568' title="11:55 AM - 17 Jun 2015">1h</a>

<a class="" href='https://twitter.com/Jaguars/status/611200400134381568' title="11:55 AM - 17 Jun 2015">1 hour ago</a>
HC Bradley on CB competition: "It's going to be a fun position to watch at Training Camp."

RicoTx · 06-17-2015, 01:12 PM

Quote:<a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/APMarkLong'>Mark Long ‏@APMarkLong </a> <a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/APMarkLong/status/611214774689529858'>2m</a>
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/APMarkLong/status/611214774689529858'>2 minutes ago</a>

Jaguars announce G A.J Cann, a 3rd-round pick, has signed his rookie deal

Great...now what am I going to worry about?

HIGH SCORE · 06-17-2015, 01:18 PM

Quote:Great...now what am I going to worry about?

Well have you seen the power rankings floating around?

**NYC4jags** · 06-17-2015, 01:31 PM

Quote:Great...now what am I going to worry about?

Something, something, Ice Cream.

knarnn · 06-17-2015, 01:34 PM

I'm falling for the hype with A-Rob. Hopefully his progression continues when the pads come on.

"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

knarnn · 06-17-2015, 01:37 PM

Quote:Jaguars want Allen Robinson to play angrier

Allen Robinson | JAC

(June 17, 2015 1:00 PM EDT)

Coach Gus Bradley wants Allen Robinson to play angrier and with more aggression.

The Jaguars want to see that "my ball" attitude out of Robinson, who has been a spring star for the Jaguars after returning from last season's broken foot. "We want to be able to throw it up to him and know he's going to come down with the ball," Bradley said. Robinson stands 6'3/210 and has a 42-inch vertical. He should be peppered with targets as the X receiver. Bradley wants Robinson to get to the point where Blake Bortles can throw him the ball even if he's covered.

SOURCE: FLORIDA TIMES UNION

"Before you criticize a man, walk a mile in his shoes. That way, if he gets angry, he's a mile away and barefoot."

AP06 · 06-17-2015, 01:39 PM

Sergio tweaked a hammy? We have like 2 healthy bodies at SS and FS...

ColoJag · 06-17-2015, 01:44 PM

Can one still register to go to the practice tomorrow?

imtheblkranger · 06-17-2015, 02:09 PM

Quote:Sergio tweaked a hammy? We have like 2 healthy bodies at SS and FS...

Well at least Rico has something to worry about now

IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS

**NYC4jags** · 06-17-2015, 02:35 PM

Quote:Which was expected.

Tweet from Michael DiRocco (@ESPNdirocco) - #Jaguars coach Gus Bradley said Marqise Lee (knee) will be ready for training camp. Said Lee could have gone this week if it were game week.

<a class="bbc_url" href='https://twitter.com/ESPNdirocco/status/610840611264966656'>https://twitter.com/ESPNdirocco/status/610840611264966656</a>

More from DiRocco and Lee on the injury and Lee's progress:

Quote:"If I had the choice to go I'd be going," Lee said. "I haven't been in OTAs all summer. We've got three practices and they want to keep me out for the three practices. No reason to try to come back and do anything. As long as I take the mental reps and stay on top of my plays I'll be OK."

Quote:...Lee said he's picking up Greg Olson's offense much quicker because of that experience.

"I just know what to really focus on," Lee said. "Last year I was pretty much everywhere trying to get everything. [Offensive assistant/quality control coach] Tony [Sorrentino] helps us a lot and then on top of that just going over everything. We've got a lot of time to sit down with everybody to go over our plays so everybody's got a good grasp of them."

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/130917...api_public

Achilles · 06-17-2015, 02:38 PM

Quote:

<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote">
Jaguars want Allen Robinson to play angrier

Allen Robinson | JAC

(June 17, 2015 1:00 PM EDT)

Coach Gus Bradley wants Allen Robinson to play angrier and with more aggression.

The Jaguars want to see that "my ball" attitude out of Robinson, who has been a spring star for the Jaguars after returning from last season's broken foot. "We want to be able to throw it up to him and know he's going to come down with the ball," Bradley said. Robinson stands 6'3/210 and has a 42-inch vertical. He should be peppered with targets as the X receiver. Bradley wants Robinson to get to the point where Blake Bortles can throw him the ball even if he's covered.

SOURCE: FLORIDA TIMES UNION

</blockquote>

if Arob starts playing with this frame of mind, it will greatly increase my expectations of him.

Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

RicoTx · 06-17-2015, 03:04 PM

Quote:Well at least Rico has something to worry about now

I do feel a little relieved.

Treestone Ice · 06-17-2015, 04:07 PM

Quote:I do feel a little relieved.

Posting from the crapper I take it?