Edit phone issue.

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Edit, phone issue.

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Did I forget NE missed the playoffs under Cassel? Yes.

Did I intend for 0% to be taken so literally? No. Did I explain that immediately after? Yes.

Do I have Steve Youngs stat lines memorized? No. Did I erroneously believe NFL.com? Yes.

Did I own all of the above? Yes.


Is Andy Dalton considered a Journeyman QB? No.

Is he according to your definition? Yes.


Sorry, it's not the way it's used around the league. Sorry there isn't a definition to explain to you the way the phrase is used. Things aren't always black and white and by the book and I know you know I'm right. That is all, you've succeeded to exhausted me over something insanely stupid. If you don't see what I'm saying then I give up, you win.

My definition? You mean the Webster dictionary definition.

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Yes, you've adopted it for your argument in the context of this conversation. Do you dispute it in reference to Dalton?

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Yes, you've adopted it for your argument in the context of this conversation. Do you dispute it in reference to Dalton?

A 2 time probowler in 4 seasons?

 

That doesn't fit any definition I have seen for a journeyman.

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Ok Geno Smith.

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David Garrard? RGIII?

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Most ridiculous argument ever! I'll freely admit I'm to blame too for getting sucked into it.

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Ok Geno Smith.

Too soon to know.

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David Garrard? RGIII?

DG, probably. If he could have stayed healthy, he might have also fit your definition of bouncing around teams.

 

RGII too beat up to tell.

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Most ridiculous argument ever! I'll freely admit I'm to blame too for getting sucked into it.

 

Hey, don't beat yourself up,it's the off season. It happens this time of the year.

 

We are all ready for the Jags to battle with an opponent and since that's not happening yet, we are ready to spar/battle with each other in here.

 

Come on Jags pre-season and those Friday night games.

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I survived the Gus Bradley Error.

But they fit your all encompassing Webster definition!

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But they fit your all encompassing Webster definition!

So it's my dictionary.

 

Still desperately flailing away.

 

Just when you thought it couldn't get more pathetic.LOL!

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I'm sorry you can't grasp that the phrase isn't used in this context to fit the definition you found. Life isn't always by the book, remove the dictionaries you are holding against your ears and wake up.

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I'm sorry you can't grasp that the phrase isn't used in this context to fit the definition you found. Life isn't always by the book, remove the dictionaries you are holding against your ears and wake up.

I have already shown it being used in published articles in that same very context referring to Young.

 

Hate to break it to you, but you aren't the authority that decides the context or the definition.

 

You need to get over yourself.

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Is this still going on? Lol

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I'd say it will be an offensive tackle, even if they both prove worthy, we have little depth.

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I'm not saying I'm the authority, predator, I just happen to have sense enough to understand a simple phrase. Your insecurities are bleeding out, sorry don't want to strike another nerve with you. Maybe you should get off your keyboard and go out in the real world.

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Steve Young hardly counts as a journeyman.

  

A journeyman is an average player who drifts from team to team, good enough to stay in the league and maybe fill in as a short-term starter in a pinch, but not someone you build a team around. Steve Young played in the USFL (which folded, hardly his fault that he left the team), then spent a couple of miserable years with Tampa before being acquired by the 49ers and becoming a Hall of Famer.

 

Matt Hasselbeck is a journeyman. Shaun Hill is a journeyman. Steve Young is not and was never a journeyman.

  

I don't understand how a Hall of Famer who didn't work out with his first NFL team then spent a few years as a backup qualifies as a journeyman. The closest journeyman analogue to your argument that I can come up with would be Rich Gannon or Steve Buerlein, maybe. Steve DeBerg is the quintessential journeyman: seven teams in a 21-year career. Good enough to hang around, not good enough to be a long-term starter (despite his one good year in KC). Steve Young, who played for two teams in a Hall of Fame NFL career, is just not a journeyman by any sane definition of the term.

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I'll just leave this here:
<a class="bbc_url" href='https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman_quarterback'>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journeyman_quarterback</a>

*slowly walks away*

  

Ummm. Isn't the key part of journeyman the "journey" part? I think the proper term you're looking for is "career backup" until whatever clicked to make him great.

  

I was thinking that same thing myself about the "journey" part. If the QB doesn't "journey" from team to team, then he is just a "backup" QB and not a journeyman QB.

 

That "thing" that clicked for Steve Young was great coaching and the West Coast Offense. Young was NEVER going to be successful in Tampa Bay unless they brought in a great HC and changed the offense to fit Young's strengths like San Fran did.

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